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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:17 PM
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Newly Released Nixon Tapes at Key Time Now Drawing Scant Interest
COLLEGE PARK, Md., Dec. 11 — Reporters, scholars and, yes, prosecutors would once have given almost anything to know exactly what President Richard M. Nixon was saying in the Oval Office and at Camp David in the summer and early fall of 1972.

This was when the Watergate cover-up was taking shape, and Mr. Nixon had his first conversations about it with his counsel, John W. Dean III.

Overseas, the United States bombing of North Vietnam was intense, peace talks were under way in Paris and Israeli athletes were massacred by Arab terrorists at the Olympics in Munich. At home, Mr. Nixon was renominated for president, and the Democrats chose Senator George McGovern. Mr. McGovern's first choice as a running mate, Senator Thomas F. Eagleton of Missouri, was dropped from the ticket after the disclosure that he had been given shock treatments for mental illness.

All this was discussed by Mr. Nixon. But this week, when the repository for the Nixon White House tapes, the National Archives and Records Administration, released the recordings made from July through October 1972, almost no one turned up at the agency's offices here to listen.

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http://nytimes.com/2003/12/14/politics/14NIXO.html
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:23 PM
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1. Reality check
Nixon is dead.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:26 PM
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2. But his souls lives in Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, etal
Be afraid, be very afraid!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:32 PM
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3. True, but his
legacy lives on. Much of what you see now from the Republicans is the reaction to Watergate. They have been getting even for it since then.

When Bork was turned down for a supreme court seat, it was seen as a slap in the face. Bork is the one that carried out the Saturday night massacre. His appointment to the court was to be his reward. that was why there was so much anger over his defeat.

The hatred of Hillary probably stems from her role in investigating Watergate.

Small world.
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:12 AM
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19. actually....
Nixon fired AG elliot Richardson because Richardson refused to fire Archie Cox, the special Watergate prosecutor. Then Wm Ruckleshouse became AG, refused to fire Cox, so Nixon fired him, too. Bork was next in line and -- according to Bork -- he fired Cox because it was clear Nixon was going to fire the whole damn Justice Department in order to find somebody who would fire the watergate special prosecutor.
i don't think it involved a 'promised supreme court seat' though Bork after that became a pariah to everyone center/left and slowly became a hero to the far right through his writings, etc.
if you have a source for the 'promised supreme court' notion i'd like to know what it is.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:45 PM
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6. Reality check.
Duh, we know that.
And Raygun is a vegetable.
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:58 PM
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8. Yep, he sure is
Maybe we can use that line in 2004 to help seal our Dem victory. What do you think about that plan?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:01 AM
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9. Which line?
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:07 AM
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10. "Raygun is a vegetable"
We could use it to prove that conservative thought makes one a vegetable. Think of the converts we could get.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:20 AM
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11. No, I think that would be a stupid strategy.
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:28 AM
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13. But this is a public forum
So I guess it's a bit late for hindsight if you know what I mean.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:33 AM
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14. I have no clue what you mean.
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:43 AM
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15. Of course you don't
Sorry to have confused you.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:56 AM
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16. No need to apologize, I'm not confused.
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:06 AM
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17. Sorry to imply you may have been confused
After re-reading your post I now understand that you have no clue as you stated.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:09 AM
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18. About what you meant.
Perhaps if you explained it, that would help me.
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reknewcomer Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:16 AM
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20. The "stupid strategy" you mentioned has been unleashed
Granted not by the candidate but by a source with the party name imbedded within the provider of said message. I thought it was obvious...sorry again.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:21 AM
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22. I'm flattered.
You seem to think I have awesome powers and influence.
I gather you don't come here much, if you think that is an
earthshaking sentiment of great political portent.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:28 AM
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23. You mean
he is Ketchup?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:29 AM
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24. Eggzactly it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:36 PM
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4. New Nixon In The House
alot scarier this time
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:38 PM
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5. You know, I hate to say it
but I think I'd prefer the old Nixon to what we've got now – and I lived through the old Nixon years.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 11:51 PM
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7. who wants to take time
to learn from negative history when there is so much that we are creating today?

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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:24 AM
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12. But.. but.. but ..if Dean is McGovern, doesn't that make Bush Nixon?
Which makes these tapes timely once more?
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:17 AM
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21. I can't believe anyone could be bored with Nixon
He was fascinating. Crazy and paranoid, but definitely fascinating.
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