CNN: Saddam may be captured

ANNOUNCEMENT COMING AT 7 AM EST --
In Baghdad, a spokeswoman for the U.S.-led occupation notified reporters that a "very important" announcement will be made at a news conference scheduled for 7 a.m. EST, but did not say who would be the speaker. The spokeswoman requested anonymity.


AP-ME GEN IRAN IRAQ SADDAM
Iran's official news agency says Saddam has been detained in Iraq

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been detained in Iraq, Iran's official news agency reported Sunday.

"Saddam Hussein was arrested in his hometown of Tikrit," IRNA quoted top Iraqi leader, Jalal Talabani as saying. It gave no further details.


AP-ME GEN IRAQ SADDAM RUMOR
People in northern Iraqi city celebrate following rumor of Saddam

KIRKUK, Iraq (AP) - A rumor that Saddam Hussein was captured or killed near his hometown of Tikrit sent hundreds of exultant people into the streets of this northern Iraqi city Sunday. They fired in the air in celebration and congratulated each other.

In Baghdad, a spokeswoman for the U.S.-led occupation notified reporters that a "very important" announcement will be made at a news conference scheduled for 3 p.m. (1200 GMT) but did not say who would be the speaker. The spokeswoman requested anonymity.

In Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, rumors that the former dictator was in custody were making the rounds, but reporters attached to the 4th Infantry Division, the U.S. unit in charge of security in the area, said there was no unusual activity there overnight or early Sunday.

;)

I think this would help to decrease resistance in Iraq substantially.

This goal is above politics, its about the lives of our sons and daughters that are over there right now.

You have obviously bought the line that the resistance there is due to Saddam. It's not. It's indigenous. It's people there who are pissed off because we've conquered them. It's incredible the American people--who claim to prize their freedom and independence above all else--can't understand this simple fact.

He said the CPA confirmed to him that saddam was pulled from a basement in Tikrit with a shovel! WTF? Is he dead?

except in the minds of those swayed by US propaganda. It is about land, resources, and power. But there is one thing you touched which may be in a way be correct. "This goal is... about the lives of our sons and daughters over there right now." They may not however be those you have in mind (different goals for different folks).

The score in the bottom of the first is still: Before their war was won = 138. After their mission accomplished = 317 more, Total young land of the free and home of the brave heroes just following orders = 455 not counting dying among 2,577 wounded.). Iraqi men, women, and children evil doers massacred = 9,766. Those seeking vengeance for sake of family and invaded homeland honor = most. Years for Viet Cong to come together = several. Time for Iraqi resistance to build = damned near immediate. Have a nice day.:)

Iraqi Kurdish ruler: Saddam Hussein captured in Tikrit (Sky News)

12:04 Al Arabiya television reports widespread celebrations in northern Iraq city of Kirkuk, following news of Saddam Hussein capture (Haaretz)

http://www.haaretzdaily.com

He has so many doubles out there. :shrug:

That's exactly what I was wondering..

I'm sure it would be pretty embarrassing to say you've got Saddam, and it turns out to be a double. Do they really have his DNA?

The final I.D. is surely the only thing holding the Pentagon back from making a full-blown announcement.

Uday and Kusay (sp?) probably provided DNA close to Saddam's, though I'm no geneticist.

enjoy! :dem:

Hopeflly this is not another PR stunt like the whirlwind T-Day trip and the aircraft carrier landing.

his campaign propaganda? Will Saddam be wrapped up like a Christmas present and laid under a fake tree in Bagdad? Does Saddam have a specially appointed cell awaiting him in Gitmo? Will Saddam conveniently be killed in one of those many fatal car accidents that seem to happen involving our troops there?

If this man has been captured, it is a good thing. However, this smarmy bunch of criminals we have in Washington will twist and manipulate the event.

So when does some one capture our dictator?

proof not a body double still a doubt.

On another note:

I'm glad they caught him. Too bad for bunkerboy it's not closer to the election.

1st reaction from me is FUCK - now we get 4 (or lifetime) of loser bush* in OUR White House - shades of early 1930's Germany again even stronger comparison to Hitler's rise to power - remember, Hitler wasn't even "Hitler" we've all come to loathe yet at that time, either. The Hitler comparison is VERY valid now more than ever. Only time will tell if 1) we still have elections and 2) 2-term limit remains in place. If either of these fails, say good-bye to US, hello to Hitler #2.

Will be "interesting" (like witnessing a car wreck) to see the wimpy dems falling all over themselves to praise bunkerboy.

Goodbye US Constitution - Hello Dictator Bunkerboy.

I am NOT happy in the long run.

I am extremely partisan in this matter - anything good for bunkerboy cannot be good for us.

Also - they've lied every single time up to now - I will hold judgement as to whether this is really Saddam until proof is given.

... on whether Mr. Big is Saddam.

Pretty huge story, folks!

It's looking like it's him. This is the first confirmation that we "might" have him from the Pentagon, per Jamie McIntyre.

Well, I might as well go back to bed now. This is all they'll be talking about on the Sunday news, and Bush will be praised all day.

I'm happy for the Iraqis, if this is the truth. But even if he's captured, it's still far from over.

so this is good news all around!

MSNBC and Fox are showing weekend retread, as of 5:15 am.

I have less faith in the reports now. We all know Faux would get the tip if they really had him. ;-)

One would definitely think Fox would be tipped off first. I just turned it on, only to recoil in horror as the Michael Jackson mug shot filled my screen.

So if true, it was the Kurds that got him and told the world, not the US troops and the Pentagon media whores reporting. Hmm...

but the US will claim the capture.

2 pats on the head and the Turks put in charge.

Anyone have Sky News reports on? Apparently they are running the story.

I remember when San Diego County went up in flames, including parts of the city itself. The entire day Sunday, all three "24 hour news" channels showed retreads. Didn't even mention it.

I'm convinced they all go home for the weekend. Likely CNN just had someone in the studio they could prop up in front of a camera.

But now his goose is cooked... sorry, that's all I could come up with at this short notice.

I just hope this gets us closer to PEACE.

Would Saddam be so foolish as to take refuge in Tikrit? Have they already had him in custody for some time time and are just now announcing it for some political purpose? Why was he captured and not killed like his two sons? This is the beginning of the 2004 presidential race... could there be some political advantage to Bush at this time?

I can have nothing but the highest skepticism about this because it relates so closely to the BFEE. Does this past the smell test?

..particularly how all the other major news branches haven't touched the story yet.

They still haven't found Bin-Laden so it would suprise me if they actually found Saddam.

Tikrit is supposed to be a veritable hotbed of Saddam support. "Local boy makes good" and all that. Also, I understand that while in power, he cultivated the people of Tikrit. When you're being hunted, it's best to go someplace where the people will help you. It makes a lot more sense than going someplace where the people hate you...

Are they going to let him get to trial and let him tell his story and implicate some Bush adminstration people? Or, is there going to be some kind of accident?

If true, quite an accomplishment. Maybe he's just a paper ($$) tiger after all. Why didn't he kill himself first?

He's got serious dirt on people.

Seriously- don't bet on him making it to trial, IF they let the Hague get ahold of him in the first place (even though he CLEARLY should be there- the US has no jurisdiction over his war crimes).

On edit: Man, that would be great if he could take down some of Bushco with him.

.. Bushco have already invented one new type of soldiers, the illegal combatants, so what whould stop them from inventing a new one that would mean that Saddam would go before, say, a military tribunal? Of course, no translators or defense lawyers will be allowed, as it might have an effect on US security....

CNN's Alphonso Van Marsh is with the 1st ID, which apparently conducted the raid on Tikrit. He reports that following the last officer-only briefing, "the whiff of cigar smoke was clear and present in the area," and the reporter described that as highly unusual.

According to Jamie McIntyre, what happened is that a number of Saddam loyalists were captured in Tikrit. He says that this is where the caution comes in, as the U.S. military is in the process of confirming that the suspect in captivity is Saddam Husssein, but that no such confirmation has been given yet. However, McIntyre says, the raid intended to capture Saddam did indeed capture him. This is the early word from the Pentagon.

Good luck to our troops and good luck to the Iraqi people. The world will be a much better place the day it's certain Saddam is out.

..when a toothless tinpot dictator was wandering the desert. We've now apparently captured the problem we helped create.

Fascinating... wouldn't Fox be all over this???

Is there some anti-Bush angle to this that we've been missing? ;)

..nothing about Hussein's capture changes the ill will felt towards America for our unilateral action, all the dead Iraqi civilians, the dead American soldiers, the crumbling infrastructure and so on, and will likely do little to curb the violence in the country..

..then no, there's no anti-Bush angle to it. :)

.. a half-hour. Interesting!

CNN anchor says that while the capture of Saddam Hussein will likely play very well in the United States, it probably won't make a hill of beans to the Iraqis.

This is very interesting if it's really him, because we don't know what the ramifications for this will be.

I'm still refusing to be cynical, though.

George Steph. broke in to the rerun of Elimidate or whatever the hell was on. Same story - no confirmation.

Here in Cincinnati, the local NBC and CBS affiliates are carrying church programming.

Good eye, eileen_d!

If ABC is going live with it, they must be pretty confident about the news.

Not elimidate... some "unexplained mysteries" crap. I have less than 20 channels and have been flipping through them... ABC the only network that broke in so far.

.. or Washington? Do you know yet?

n/t

Tut-tut

ABC, CNN and MSNBC are all live, but none of these networks has reported this information...

they said, paraphrasing, "That he's either in custody, or dead."

They're not taking into account that it might be one of Saddam's doubles? That's clearly a possibility, although with all the coverage and cigar-smoking, I'm thinking we've got him...

they might kill him.

I'm just watching CNN right now.

Yahoo News

News Agency Says Saddam Detained in Iraq

TEHRAN, Iran - Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been detained in Iraq, Iran's official news agency reported Sunday.


Since this is coming out of Iran, might explain why FAUX wasn't the first one on it. Odd that this would come from Iran rather than the Pentagon? I bet Rummie will be pissed if he gets stuck with Saddam alive.

i hope they got him alive so he can be put on trial. in an international court (hopefully open to the public).

with some smarmy comment -- "Oh, let me call my lawyer..."

He will be tried in the court of public opinion, with chief justice The Liberal Media holding sway - like every other non-Republican criminal!

Tut-tut

at taxpayer expense, like we did Ferdinand Marcos?

can let Saddam move in next door to him in Nigeria? They seem to like brutal dictators there.

Manuel Noriega ended up with rather plush incarceration accomodations. Pinochet ain't doing too badly, either. And what about the Shah of Iran?

in a plush private suite at the county jail.

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Yes, I knew that the Shah died quite some time ago, but he was in exile at the time and died of natural causes. You do realize that Iran was a democracy until a U.S.-British coalition set up a repressive government, with the Shah as head of it, back in the '50s. It seems that no one remembers this. I don't remember this, of course, but have read about it.:shrug:

You can hear guns being fired in the background as the reporter speaks... automatic gunfire. It would appear that the news has either reached the people of Baghdad, or that US forces have engaged hostile gunfire...

The raid was to capture Saddam.

A person believeing to be Saddamn was taken into custody.

So basicaly it comes down to him or a double.

I think they have him.

They have a very dark hole for him to be sure.

Better now than just before the election.

They are waiting for the DNA test before making the announcement, I guess they're afriad they might have the double, too.

but I thought the same thing. At least the buzz of this will have cooled-down by the time Nov 2 rolls around again.

The press will make that look like him taking a piss by comparison.

The coverage will be orgasmic.

But it will be over eventually.

Who will they blame for the attacks that will most certainly continue... Saddam Denialists?

that's a good one, incapsulated!

it was the Iranian news agency that got the scoop, Talabani, PUK leader said quoting Kurdi sources in Tikrit...

that it's him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3317429.stm

<snip>

He was detained in his ancestral home town of Tikrit, Iraqi Kurdish leader Jalal Talabani said on the official Iranian news agency IRNA.

<snip>

Nazem Dabag, representative in Iran of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) also said that Saddam Hussein had been arrested.


Seems that the Kurds scooped the Pentagon on this news. Could it be that they didn't trust the Pentagon to tell the truth or that the US forces would try to kill Saddam before the news got out?

They said "alive" without any qualifications. I guess we'll see...

"Hiding in a basement in Tikrit..." still not confirming the identity of course

"let his beard grow very long and lost a lot of weight"

I'm glad Saddam has been captured, but I don't think we'll ever hear the end of this from the repugs. I'm dreading the next few weeks.

One thing's for sure: I'd sure hate to be Saddam right now :)

Iran's official news agency says Saddam has been detained in Iraq

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/348/world/Iran_s_official_news_agency_sa:.shtml

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031214/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_saddam&cid=540&ncid=716

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) has been captured alive in his hometown of Tikrit, a member of the U.S.-appointed Governing Council said Sunday.

Council member Dara Noor al-Din told The Associated Press that the council was informed of the former dictator's capture in a telephone call from L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator for Iraq.

"Bremer has confirmed to the Governing Council that Saddam was captured in Tikrit," Noor al-Din said. "He spoke on the phone to several members, including Ahmad Chalabi."

Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has been arrested, an Iraqi Kurdish representative in Iran said on Sunday, but the U.S. Defense Department said it could not confirm the report.

"I confirm that Saddam has been arrested," Nazem Dabag, representative in Iran of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), told Reuters.

The official Iranian news agency IRNA quoted PUK leader Jalal Talabani as saying that Saddam had been captured in his hometown of Tikrit.
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/371848.html

A senior administration official has told CNN's Dana Bash that President Bush was informed of the raid on Tikrit late Saturday afternoon, and that Donald Rumsfeld informed the President that it looked "promising" that they had captured Saddam Hussein.

They've been working on that Positive ID for hours and hours, it would seem...

BTW, ABC and NBC both have live news now (where I'm at anyway). CBS still showing some hunting show. That's it for me... I've been up all night and don't know if I can make it to the press conference...

They are trying to cover up for the fact that the Kurds let the cat out of the bag and want to make it look like they are in control and on top of the situation.

if it is indeed Saddam Hussein.
I'll pass on watching junior crow & his speech.

tony blaire confirmed it was saddam

He was captured, not killed. Oops.

The Kurds caught him, and apparently leaked the info to Iran, so it was impossible to later "kill" him in a raid. Oops.

Now the American people are going to basically think the war is completely over, and wonder what the hell we're doing there.

They will have to fall back on the old terrorist excuse for the ongoing attacks on American soldiers, which people are getting tired of.

It points out the fact that Bush still hasn't caught Osama bin Laden, 2 years later.

It's way too early. No way the press can sustain a wargasm over this until the election.

Good news for the Iraqis, though. If they can get us out of there, and get some self-government going.

I sure hope so, and I hope things work out the way you say. No matter what I'm glad it happened now and not 7 months from now.

But I'm afraid we're in for at least a very rough few weeks. I will be avoiding the TV for a while! Now all they have to do is announce Reagan's death in a couple of months, and the propaganda machine will be self-sustaining.

AP Wire

WASHINGTON -- U.S. military captured a man in the basement of a building in Tikrit, Iraq, during raids seeking Saddam Hussein, and initial efforts to verify his identity indicate he is the deposed Iraqi dictator, U.S. officials said Sunday.

<snip>

The official said the captured man's appearance did not immediately look like Saddam, but additional efforts to ascertain his identity indicated he was the former leader.

The officials spoke only on condition of anonymity.

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They will have to find someone else to blame other than "Saddam loyalists".

Furthermore the shiites will no more be afraid that by attacking
the occupiers they maybe helping Saddam.

Finaly, in the improbable case Saddam doesn't die in custody, we
might finaly learn from the horses mouth about the Reagan links in
the 80's.

Be careful with what you wish for, you might just get it!

along with their reports.
To be clear: Not that Saddam isn't a low quality person, but the bio leaves out all of the friendly relations that the USA has had with Saddam and the Ba'ath party over the years. They make it look like he was born to be an enemy of the Bush admin.

Then the guy on ABC says "ahh, the snow falling behind you in Washington looks sooo beautiful."

We have to pay attention to how the facts are shuffled and dealt over the next several days.

Reports: Hussein Possibly Captured

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 14, 2003; 5:56 AM

U.S.troops in a raid in Tikrit Iraq last night captured an Iraqi identified as Saddam Hussein, officials in Baghdad and Washington said early this morning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63555-2003Dec14.html?referrer=email

Maybe disguised as Santa Hussein?

Saddam or no Saddam, the attacks won't stop. In fact, they'll probably increase.

Also, how the fuck did they capture him alive? :shrug:

17 minutes ago

snip

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), trapped in a cellar, dug a hole and buried himself as U.S. soldiers moved into the house where he was hiding, an Iraqi official said Sunday.


"The American soldiers had to use shovels to dig him out," Entifadh Qanbar, spokesman for Governing Council member Ahmad Chalabi, told The Associated Press.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031214/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam_the_capture&cid=540&ncid=716

Remember, this does nothing to un-do the constant lies of * and company.

Tut-tut

n/t

...but the attacks will continue and he'll still get tossed on his ear by DeanClarkKerry...

It's probably too early for him to keep up the momentum between
now and the election. But the White House will spin it as long as
they can, I'm sure.

Now, what will be the betting on Saddam getting an open trial?

They can't risk him implicating the Reagan Adminstration for giving them the WMD...

and yes, junior's poll numbers will go up and out of site.

I wish they'd show the first day the U.S. put this ruthless thug Saddam Hussein in power to help fight against Iran, and all the chemical weapons we gave to this dictator.

Chalabi has a lot to look forward to, 'eh?

Showing video of him being examined (with crazy Ted Kazinski beard), and then a still after he shaved.




Iraqi journalists, during shwoing of video, cheered and yelled "Death to Saddam!"

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Monkey boy will receive a small bump in the polls, but, trust me - he's toast.

Say goodbye to the Chimp...

We (including dumbass repugs like you) have all been in trouble since Scalia and Rhenquist stole the election in '00. I have to agree with you about a landslide though. Those electronic voting machines will just about assure a victory for Bush. Whether he gets the most votes or not.

You Got it!, Chief!

It's very interesting that both Saddam pictures have the same background.
I think the "reference" Saddam has been captured long ago, and he's now at Bahamas, watching CNN. CIA can not let happen that one of it's most important agents to be captured and sentenced - not even by and Iraqi tribunal.

Do you think we will have the chance to see the "captured" Saddam without beard?

i was sleeping on the couch when i heard the excitement in the news peoples voices at like 4 am. i groggilly looked up and gathering what was going on- then had to struggle to stay awake for 2 hours for the press conference. "ladies and gentleman, we got him"
my sister is here with me on leave from the army in germany. she is back in the states to drop her kids off before she has to go to iraq. she is so happy.

I'm glad they got him. This means more for the Iraqis than it does for Bush.

We will have to see how this affects things. Hopefully the attacks will diminish in number and we will lose less people, but I tend to doubt it. Time magazine several months ago stated that many Iraqis have NOT acted against the American forces because they would be seen as being pro-Saddam, we'll see. There was a suicide bombing today in Baghdad at least 17 dead.

I wish I could embrace this point of view as well. Alas, I fully expect to see an increase in the number and frequency of attacks on our servicemen as well as the citizens of Iraq, as the final wave of aggression by pro-Saddam forces is meted out. I pray this will not last.

This is a major turning point. We as a country are significantly closer to returning our troops home.

Anyway you slice it, this is a watershed day in history. It will be interesting to see what sort of political hay is made of this in the coming months . . .

Because I think it will bring the debate back to where it belongs-- on this country and the failed policies of GWB. I always hated to hear our candidates harp on the fact that Saddam hasn't been captured and Osama hasn't been captured-- like it was something that couldn't happen. The debate has to be raised to a different level now and for that I am eternally grateful. I'm also happy for the Iraqi people. Saddam deserves to pay for all the crimes he did against them. Next, let's try Bush* for all the crimes he's done against humanity.

I woke up early this morning (10 minutes ago, to be exact) and turned on my TV and there it was...

I'm happy that he's captured, but unhappy so many Americans had to lose their lives for it.

I was kind of skeptical at first...he has many doubles...

But this is a great day for the Iraqi's...but it's not over yet...our troops are not out of the woods...the attacks against them may just get worse...

I hope not...but it may just get worse...

I remember early on in this stupid war how they kept insisting that there was no DNA of Saddam available. I didn't believe that then figuring they were setting up not being able to ID a suspected body.

The things that give credence to this is that it seems it was the Kurds and not US that got him, AND this happened on the weekend, which doesn't fit the US propaganda moves of the past, AND Faux wasn't the first to report.

Time will tell. I have become so distrustful of this stupid admin that I have visions of Saddam "escaping" if that will suit their needs. I'm beginning to think I need psychiatric help!

They are reporting Iraqis are dancing in the street, but all of the video I have seen have been of the same group of maybe 30 or 40 people. Guess the news hasn't gotten out yet.

My wife saw the news, and asked 'which one is he?' (she evidently has him and Osama confused) which I suspect she is probably representative of the mojority of Amnericans, she doesn't follow this stuff too closely. And she is a very intelligent career minded woman, so you can imagine how the demographic that Dubya and Rush appeal to will be even more confused. I bet this administration is banking on this type of confusion, especially that he was involved in 9-11 to boost Dubya in the polls. There will probably be an immediate jump in the polls.

But like someone said above, I think now that Saddam is captured, people are going to expect things to happen more quickly, like our soldiers coming home, and if that doesn't happen, it will not be good for this admin.

If it's a double, I'd say it was masterful plastic surgeon because it {i]really does look like him...

I have one question though...I kept hearing all morning on CNN that he was captured and he was wearing a fake beard...then they showed his picture and they said that he had his beard shaven...

that struck me as kind of odd...first they say all morning that he had a fake beard...that beard looks real to me...

(on edit: why would he have to shave a fake beard?)

definitely a resemblance but he had alot of doubles.
His facial features are not really unique enough for anyone to say from just glancing at the picture it is definitely him.

Nice timing. Sunday early a.m., here in the USA. Perfect. Why would Saddam help his enemies by not doing himself in rather than be captured, if he had the capability of doing so? The tribunal to try him was just set up last week...the trial will keep us all breathlessly distracted for...several months? Then, after a while, look for Rabbit #2!
Will things have to get a whole lot worse before they get better?
Endlessly cynical, now.

...because their support has been eroding at a pretty good pace up to this point. Dean has dominated the news lately, particularly since his enodorsement by Gore.

I predict that there will be some bounce, but it will disappear as we continue to lose Americans in Iraq, and once everyone realizes that the attacks in Iraq are not connected to Saddam.

Maybe 150 people including the shopkeepers.
Very few women.

When they pulled Saddam's statue, I think they had
as many people.

When the Revolution happens it'll look like
Paris after the French won the World Cup.

They're showing that same damn truck, noone
else.

It's a pity that when I read this this morning, the only thing I could think of is Rove is accelerating the schedule.

My prediction about taking Saddam out of ice and capturing him in time for the election was pemature. (Joking of course). But then, if this fortuitous capture is supposed to end the hostilities, I really do think that Captain Clueless and his handlers have something else coming. MY understanding is that the combatants are for the large part pissed-off Iraqis who know the score on the invasion, occupation and pacification of the Iraqi nation. The foreign "Jihadists" don't give a sh*t where they fight us. THey just want the opportunity to engage and kill the infidels. What a mess.

Everyone's probably thrilled about Saddam going down (if it's him), but the Iraqis still have the continuing American attrocities to be angry about.

As everyone knows, it isn't over folks. They'll have to declare victory again and do a complete news black-out to pretend it's over this time. No can do, Boss!

What a horror this has become.

The Saddams:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,314782,00.jpg




...and people celebrating on streets of Baghdad (BBC: Saddam Hussein 'arrested in Iraq')



somebody knows why BBC put in quotation marks the 'arrested in Iraq'?

If Saddam has truly been captured alive this is going to make things very interesting. This whole business with the justification for war and his role as a dictator should now technically be handed over to the Judicial branch for something akin to the Nuremburg trials.

Now we will see if the Judicial branch is owned by the Neocon Cabal as much as we think it is.

Can Bu$h and his cronies afford to put a microphone in front of Saddam's mouth with the whole world listening? Wouldn't that wake up a lot of people about how The Bu$h crime family has had ties with this evil dictator for a long, long time?

I can't believe Saddam will be allowed to live. Observe.

::smoke::

I would love to be a fly on the wall during questioning.

We know that the Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations provided weapons for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War and Saddam was considered an ally back then, just as the CIA considered Osama bin Laden an ally during the Soviet Union's war in Afghanistan. I would love to see this whole thing backfire on Bush*, but have had high hopes before. He just seems to keep getting away with unbelievable transgressions.:grr: