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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:35 AM
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AP:Saddam Capture Good for Bush in Many Ways
"WASHINGTON - When national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) told President Bush (news - web sites) before dawn Sunday that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) had indeed been captured, she was delivering news that was good for the U.S. leader in a multitude of ways.

It will help Bush with a U.S. public increasingly skeptical of his Iraq (news - web sites) strategy and it will at least temporarily silence his Democratic rivals. It may also help calm the roiled Iraqi people, many of whom have been unwilling to embrace a new government as long as Saddam was at large. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20031214/ap_on_go_pr_wh/saddam_bush_analysis

Here's a gem:

"Blaming a snowstorm, Bush canceled his plans to attend church across the street from the White House. "

He even lies about not wanting to go to church across the friggin street!?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:40 AM
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1. Everything good is good for Bush* because he always takes the credit
Everything bad is good for Bush* because he never takes the responsibility.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:45 AM
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2. Hey, Saddam - where are the WMDs?
Just asking a "former" friend of the US.

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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:47 AM
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3. For once Bush is right
Hey, I'm down the road from D.C. in central VA. It's *nasty* out there. Freezing rain on top of sleet on top of snow. The kind of weather for which hot chocolate was invented. Besides, consider how irritating it must be for the Christian Coalition puppetmasters to have GWB making excuses to get out of going to church, just like a normal human being.
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pistoff democrat Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:51 AM
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6. It's their fault anyway because
the least they could have done is carried him across the street. O8)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:37 PM
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23. What? He can't walk on snow? It's just cold water.
And he can do that, surely.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:03 AM
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10. The Chimpster got into the egg-nog last night...
...he's too hungover for the big photo-op of going to church to give thanks for the capture of Saddam.

Rove must be pissed.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:27 AM
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16. Rummie shouldn't have given him the news
Yesterday afternoon. He must have really tied one on and they can't sober him up enough to make him presentable.

Could you imagine if you were prez and they just caught Saddam? Wouldn't you be putting your face on the event as soon as possible?
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:50 AM
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4. "Pie in the Sky" analysis ...
and if the bombings continue??? If groups fearful of Saddam's return rise up because they know he's gone for good??? bin Laden spin's Saddam's cowardly capture as proof that's he's the one to lead the Arab people because he would go out in a blaze of glory and not allow himself to be captured by the unbelievers???

Will the Iraq people hate the occupation less because Saddam isn't around hiding in their cellars?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:06 AM
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11. Damn, Rove got this out to the AP pretty damned fast huh?
I agree this is analysis that is more like looking into a magic 8-ball.

I loved the "no official response from the White House" they don't need to the whores are coming in early to get in on the nut licking.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:37 AM
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17. Tom Brokaw:
"This is a great day for this President*.....and for the Iraqi people." (As in an "Oh yeah, the Iraqi people, too!" afterthought)


Got both nuts with that one.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:51 AM
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5. Incredible. The Iraqi people are fighting to get the invaders out of...
...Iraq, and don't give a rat's butt about Saddam.

IMHO, the "coalition" will have to be careful how they deal with Saddam...it would not take much to turn him into a martyr and alienate even more of Iraq's people.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:55 AM
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7. This could be quite bad for *
because I really suspect that some Iraqis supported
the occupation out of fear that Saddam would return.
Now the Anti-Baathist element will have a more
compelling case for rebellion.

If this helps Bush, it helps the Iraqi opposition more.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:49 AM
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20. I think you're right. with saddam captured the shiite's will ask
for american forces to leave immediately, and when we don't it will confirm their fears.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:26 PM
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22. There is no doubt the resistance will continue unabated.
The result will be bad for Shrub and Rummy. They can no longer portray the resistance as diehard Saddam supporters. They don't want people to think the Iraqis are freedom fighters.
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artr2 Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:58 AM
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8. this will not help * at all
to far away from the election & too many other things will be going into the crapper
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Clark4Prez Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:00 AM
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9. December "Surprise"
Congrats to the Troops for doing good work and finding Saddam. Too bad for GWB, though that the good news came too early.

The American public has a short attention span and even shorter memory. This will result in a short boost for GWB, but like the Turkey Trip, it will fade faster than the paint on a Pinto in the hot Texas sun.

No coup for you, GW!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:08 AM
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14. Actually, wasn't it the Kurds who "found" Saddam...
...and turned him over to the U.S. troops?

I agree with you on the pro-Chimpster "bounce"...short-lived at best.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:47 AM
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19. And what if it results in a very big bounce for *?
I think maybe we ought to take our collective heads out of the sand and consider that this may indeed bolster *'s flagging support. The Dem candidates -- ALL OF THEM -- need to pay attention to this issue and address it for what it is. If they ignore it, or worse let * take the upper hand in it, they lose. And they lose big.

I was watching James Carville on S-Span when a friend called with the news that Saddam Hussein had been captured. She said she was totally depressed about it and was more or less giving up on politics.

But now is NOT the time to give up. Now is the time to fight even harder. Not by denying what may be the obvious -- that the GOP is going to play this for all it's worth and next week we'll have front-page pix of * standing over a prostrate Saddam -- but by FACING it and dealing with it.

Okay, we got Saddam. That was the objective, right? Now, let's turn Iraq over to the Iraqis, get out, and get home so we can deal with all the problems here: health care, jobs, the environment, etc., etc., etc.

Iraq was not the only item on the political agenda. * may have won this round, but the fight ain't over yet.


Tansy Gold
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:06 AM
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12. Wonder what they plan on doing with him now?
I know they hadn't planned on him still breathing when they found him. I think he's going to be a little harder to make disappear than Noreiga.

If they plan a trial, what will he be charged with?
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LiberalTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:06 AM
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13. Well, this does it for me!
I sure do feel safer today! They caught a man hiding in a hole! Now the whole WORLD will be safer! I'm going out SHOPPING today to spur this economy! Woo Hoo!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:11 AM
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15. :)
If handled right, this could be good for the troops, that's a good thing...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:40 AM
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18. really now......
you really expect chimpco* to handle this right?!? ROFLMAO
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:59 AM
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21. This is good, great, for the troop, the Iraqis, dems, repubs, the world.
This is of course also good for Bush but that does not mean he can't be beat. I still think Gephart or Clark can beat him. (My doubt about Dean doing it continues.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:16 PM
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24. It's a tiger by the tail.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:17 PM by aquart
Who has the jurisdiction to try a head of state for crimes against his own people? The United States? The puppet council?

Anyone surprised Chalabi is still breathing?

We want to try Saddam for war crimes. WHAT war crimes? We committed more in this war and the Gulf War than he did.

He's alive and pathetic and useless as a boogeyman. So who is George going to conjure to make us scared NOW?

Give them their euphoria. It ain't gonna last. If we're not scared, George is in the trash. His only boost comes from fear.

The economy still sucks. All his legislation is still aggressively anti-democratic and pro-fascist. And civil war is about to break out in earnest in Iraq.

Yeah, George is doing fine and Rove is a genius.
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