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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:51 AM
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Clark Criticized for Lobbying by Lieberman
The director of Senator Joseph I. Lieberman's presidential campaign accused Gen. Wesley K. Clark yesterday of misleading voters by not giving full details about General Clark's work as a lobbyist in Washington after he retired from the military in 2000.

Reacting to the release of General Clark's federal financial disclosure form late Friday, Craig T. Smith, the campaign director, and Brian Hardwick, his deputy, said in a conference call that the general was "profiting from the revolving door" between the Pentagon and private business and likened his situation to that of Vice President Dick Cheney and his former employer, Halliburton.

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Chris Lehane, a strategist for the Clark campaign, said, "We heard about this Lieberman attack more in sadness than in anger and believe Senator Lieberman should be spending more time worrying about Al Gore's assessment of his candidacy and less time worrying about records that Wes Clark made public months ago."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/politics/campaigns/14CLAR.html
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:59 AM
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1. Not LBN Posted yesterday-response from Clark Campaign...
Link from original posting http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=900549&mesg_id=900549

Clark Criticized for Lobbying by Lieberman
By EDWARD WYATT

Published: December 14, 2003

The director of Senator Joseph I. Lieberman's presidential campaign accused Gen. Wesley K. Clark yesterday of misleading voters by not giving full details about General Clark's work as a lobbyist in Washington after he retired from the military in 2000.

Reacting to the release of General Clark's federal financial disclosure form late Friday, Craig T. Smith, the campaign director, and Brian Hardwick, his deputy, said in a conference call that the general was "profiting from the revolving door" between the Pentagon and private business and likened his situation to that of Vice President Dick Cheney and his former employer, Halliburton.

The unusual attack, coming less than a week after former Vice President Al Gore endorsed Howard Dean's candidacy, demonstrates how intense the race has become for the eight other Democratic candidates.

Chris Lehane, a strategist for the Clark campaign, said, "We heard about this Lieberman attack more in sadness than in anger and believe Senator Lieberman should be spending more time worrying about Al Gore's assessment of his candidacy and less time worrying about records that Wes Clark made public months ago."

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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:00 AM
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3. It's listed as being from today on the NYT site
:shrug:

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:23 AM
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4. Go back and read look at the top right of the original message...
Saturday 12/13/03 8:57 pm. I would post a screen shot but I don't have time.

dkf (397 posts) Sat Dec-13-03 08:57 PM
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Lieberman's henchmen attacking Clark now.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:28 PM
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7. It says "Published: December 14, 2003" . . .
. . . right beneath the byline. Isn't today the 14th?

Clark Criticized for Lobbying by Lieberman
By EDWARD WYATT
Published: December 14, 2003

The director of Senator Joseph I. Lieberman's presidential campaign accused . . .


TYY
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:00 AM
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2. Ouch! (re: Lehane)
I think Lieberman should be more concerned about his own campaign manager's assessment of his campaign, actually. (A poll of Democratic "insiders" indicated that nobody thought Lieberman would be the nominee. One of these insiders was Lieberman's own campaign manager.)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:09 PM
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5. Looserman should just dropout now. He is a rethug wannabee...
and he knows it!

:puke:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:10 PM
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6. Lieberman has a very valid point
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 01:10 PM by Tinoire
and despite his war vote and hawkishness, he has never waffled over his support for the war and is one of the most socially progressive (on a domestic front) politicians that we have.

I don't like many things about the man but that dates from before Selection 2000 but I am flabbergasted by how he's suddenly dismissed for pointing out questionable baggage.

If there's one thing Lieberman isn't, it's a waffler or a liar and the good he did, the truths he points out should not be dismissed.

* Saving this for "Daily Democrat: A Positive Thing About Joe Lieberman" day since it's hard these days to think of many good things to say...
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:32 PM
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9. Don't blame the messenger
Clark's lobbying is certainly worthy of scrutiny. But since the messenger is Lieberman and since this is DU, the discussion turns immediately to pouncing on Lieberman instead of discussing the topic at hand.

It seems to me to be a valid concern. Not one that I would necessarily withhold my vote about, but you can believe that if Clark is the nominee, it will be an issue.

Lieberman was right to point it out.

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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:17 PM
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13. maybe so but
I would rather he points out the short comings of the republicans. Either that, or change parties.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:51 AM
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18. In this case, that's just what he's doing - pointing out the short comings
of a Republican. ;)
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:19 PM
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21. LOL - I agree
For once, Lieberman has done something useful: help expose Clark's true colors as a war profiteer.

Still, how Lieberman, friend of weapons manufacturers, can be said to have standing to criticize on this one I'll leave to the spin doctors. ;-)
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:09 PM
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14. Very valid I would say.
Though I don't care for Lieberman, I agree that Clark has a number of consultant or lobbying jobs that need disclosure on.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:44 PM
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8. Lieberman knows he's now running for VP against Clark.
Unfortunately for him, there's no chance Dean will not go with Clark. Thank heavens.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:11 AM
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17. Awww, please
say anything but that!

There must be a chance that clark will give a firm no to being Dean's vp.

There must!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 04:48 PM
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10. Lieberman needs to go back to Connecticut
and stop bitching and moaning about crap

doesn't he realize that no one is taking him seriously!

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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:08 PM
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11. the best thing Lieberman
can do for the democrats is to shut the hell up.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:12 PM
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12. Two Words, Joseph:
Fuck off.

:evilgrin:
dbt
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 01:51 AM
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15. our resident republican, flitting from one candidate to another
. . . looks like he's found his calling: slinging mud at his "fellow Democrats." Can't wait for the a-hole to drop out.
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 02:51 AM
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16. Lieberman should join te Bush campaign...
or perhaps he already has.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:52 AM
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19. He did that back in 2000.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:23 AM
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20. Lieberman's only function seems to be to critisize Dem candidates
He's kinda like a republican.
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