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metisnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:18 PM
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URGENT PLEASE LOOK
This is a photo of Sadamm with and without a beard. DOES ANYONE NOTICE SOMETHING THAT IS THE SAME ABOUT THIS PICTURE? Look behind Sadamm the Tile it is identical...the truth is that he was captured months ago and has been in a goulag somewhere until the ideal opportunity to showcase them...ie. after the 87 billion dollar handout to companies like Halliburton.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/031214/photos_wl/mdf427703&e=10&ncid=1756


fiscal responsibility MY ARSE!!!


CLARK 04
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:21 PM
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1. WHAT are you talking about?
:shrug:
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Dommael Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:22 PM
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2. Believe your own eyes and think about it
Somebody else suggested he's spent 8 months in solitary confinement with constant lighting being subjected to Barney and Metallica at ear-splitting decibles...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:22 PM
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3. Check out this thread:
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 06:23 PM by Tinoire
Devka's analysis of this farce seems a lot more believable that the US version.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=269401
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:23 PM
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4. He's caught. Big deal.
They are making out like he was the biggest threat to mankind. Who the heck did he ever threaten since 91?

The Bush environmental policy is the greatest threat to the planet!

He should be captured!
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:25 PM
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5. He is right. Look for yourself.
He is right. Look for yourself.

The background is exactly the same. White tile. There must be sevral months growth here.

Many have speculated that he was captured some time ago, and this news relseaded with it worked to W's advantage. This picture presents evdcine consistent with this.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:25 PM
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6. 1st photo is him supposedly cleaned up after capture.
I know what's next: where's the gash in his left temple? It's there, his head is turned and obscuring part of it.
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:29 PM
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7. why is his face paler with the beard than without?
looks like he developed a tan pretty quickly.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:31 PM
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10. I was just thinking the same thing
What did they do ... clean him up and send him to a tanning salon for an hour?? :eyes:

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:33 PM
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12. lighting, tile is lighter too.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:35 PM
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13. Or they just used a Flash from a camera
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Dommael Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:32 PM
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11. Well that's weird...
Are you saying that our news sources doctored up the recent photo to show people it's really him?

I'm not comfortable with the idea of some graphic artist using Photoshop to show me what I'm looking at with my own eyes!

Every day this country becomes more like a surrealist farce.

::smoke::
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:36 PM
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14. Here's some clearer photos


I smell a rat -- could it be that Cheney is somehow involved?

Tut-tut
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:40 PM
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19. great work!
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:45 PM
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24. No, this dosn't fly.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 07:02 PM by Code_Name_D
Look at the mustash.
The one on the left is black and is fuller than the one on the right.
The head of hair is fuller on the left, than on the right.

Another problem. Why would the before photo be on the left? As we always read from left to right, the before pictures are tradionly placed on the left. But this time, it's on the right?

There there is the difrent angel. If seporated by time, the camera man proably would not remeber the angel from witch the photo was taken. But if taken on the same day, then why not taken at the same angel?

Far more likly that the before picture is indeed the one on the left. This of course would mean that this before photo was taken 6 months ago to acount for the growth. But if the after picture is un US cusdity, the before picture, being in front of the same background,
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TXvote Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:30 PM
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8. Here's my theory
about the pics.

Captured with a beard, ok , I'll give them that. However, look closely at the moustache after shaving. How can the end of his moustache get fuller after shaving? Seems to me the one thing a ringer could not do is grow such a beard overnight. With all the US advantage at portraying SH as disheveled who gave the order to shave him and make him presentable? In my opinion, it never happened. The cleaned up one is a double.

Also, look at the wounds over his left eye. In the bearded picture he is scabbed over. In the "cleaned up shot" they are fresh. Being a double must include getting your arse kicked. Bummer. Hope it does not include standing in on the public execution.

I think they replaced him with a double they already had on hand and shipped the real SH off to Turkey or some other friendly undisclosed location where they can interrogate him in a real special way. Meanwhile they can parade the bushy moustached double around adnauseum.

Doubles don't mention intimate ties with Rumsfeld and Cheney and the Bush family at trial.....

All this cuz we took captive a woman and her 15 year old daughter to ply them for info. Real honorable aren't we?


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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:39 PM
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18. My question
The picture of the "cleaned up" Saddam if you really look close at it shows a man with about a days growth of facial hair. I don't have the timeline on this in front of me but I don't thing that they had all that much time between the two photos according to the official story.

My thought currently is that the just found photo is a body double, the cleaned up Sadsdam is the real one, and hes been captured for some time now.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:31 PM
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9. Why does the 'before' picture have like a scar where no hair grows
an the upper lip in full view...while the shaved pic have a really bushy moustache...and no glimpse of the scar....or an upper lip???
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:37 PM
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16. Oh geez
Its amazing what a brush can do to hair. Perspective is why we miss the scar.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:39 PM
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17. Hey! That's pretty good, but I think it's just
the angle. I really think it's him. It wouldn't surprise me to find out he had been kidnapped. By the way, that isn't a 3 week beard. Got to be 6 months or more. Anybody ever grow a beard that long? How long did it take?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:46 PM
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25. Why is the angle different?
Shouldn't they have taken both photos from the front? That's usually how "before and after" photos are done. Oh wait ... if they did they we would have seen that the scar and the scabs weren't there. :P
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TXvote Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:49 PM
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28. 1st picture could be
2nd pic is a double
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:41 PM
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21. The moustache is definitely thicker in the shaved picture ...
... and you're right, the upper lip is visible before the shave, but not after. Not that it matters ... the sheeple won't care. After all, they don't care that Georgie lied about the WMDs, they don't care that our soldiers are dying for no reason and they don't care that Iraq became a haven for terrorists AFTER the war. Stupidity reigns, as usual! :grr:

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be a blind, Bush-worshipping fool. It must be nice to think everything's wonderful and the world is perfect. After all, who needs jobs, education and health care and we're kicking ass in other countries! :eyes:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:37 PM
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15. The camera always lies.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:41 PM
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20. Ever hear of Photoshop?
It's not that hard to mane a camera lie these days?
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:44 PM
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22. One thing you cannot change is the forehead....the first has a shorter
forehead....the later a deeper one??? If they want to a before and after they should do a similar photo...?
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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:45 PM
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23. My one and only post on this thread
Caught today, cought months ago - what's the difference? I figure he was caught last night about 8:00 PM Baghdad time.

The conspiracy you're trying to prove is just a bit too large to pull off. Lighting, bathing, etc. can account for many differences. GO get dirty with desert dust, take a picture, then wash up and take another - you'll look darker, too. If you've ever been in the desert, you'll know that the dust that settles makes you look almost bone white. What, he wasn't in the desert? The Tigris River valley is no more than an oasis in the desert. The soil is the same as in the unwatered area nearby.

Same tile? Let's see. We capture one of the world's most wanted men, get him cleaned up and give him a medical once over - most likely for the DNA and other physical evidence to determine of he's the real deal. How many "safe" rooms do you suppose there are in whatever compund in which he's being held? The photos are not uniform family portrait studio quality. They're candid shots, likely taken by a military pool photog with minimal training.

Sorry, I just cannot buy this conspiracy theory.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:47 PM
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26. Thats What I'm saying
I'm sure we have him. Now that we do, it changes nothing. Bush still has us in another country illegally while f*cking up ours. Lets get the real Saddam. He's hiding in DC.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:54 PM
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29. I'm also sure that we have him, but...
Look at the history of this bunch of thugs running our country. They have a history of making up lies about everything, including times when they really have no need to. I am not about to trust them to all of a sudden start telling us the truth about anything, no matter how large or small. They will spin and play this story out to get the maximum advantage out of it. It's what they do. I really doubt that we will ever know the true story behind his capture.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:47 PM
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27. bruise/cut over left eyebrow
pretzel wound perhaps? ... in the same spot as *'s

:silly:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:57 PM
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30. So they photographed him with the beard, shaved the beard, then
So they photographed him with the beard, shaved the beard, then photographed him in the same room.

I don't think those photos prove a conspiracy.
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31. Locking - this is not LBN
Please re-post in GD and refer to the DU rules for posting for proper form.

Thanks!
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