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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:52 PM
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Cheney daughter: Clinton lacks Iraq 'spine'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16772743/

Cheney daughter: Clinton lacks Iraq 'spine'
Takes aim at both Republican and Democratic opponents of the war

WASHINGTON - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter accused Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of lacking "spine" on Iraq on Tuesday, three days after the New York Democrat launched her bid for the White House.

"Anyone who has watched her remarkable trajectory can have no doubt that she'll do whatever it takes to win the presidency. I wish she felt the same way about the war," Liz Cheney, a former deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, said in an opinion article in The Washington Post.

Cheney took aim at both Republican and Democratic opponents of the war, warning that retreating from Iraq would hurt the United States in the broader war against terrorism and that any restrictions on the U.S. troop presence would aid terrorists.

But Cheney's attack on Clinton was particularly pointed, especially for such an early stage in the 2008 presidential campaign.

"I suppose Hillary Clinton's announcement was a sign of progress. In 2007, a woman can run for president and show the same level of courage and conviction about this war of her male colleagues have," Cheney wrote. "Steel in the spine? Not so much."

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:54 PM
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1. Glass houses
Her entire family lacks spine ~ she needs to shut up~
Guess she wants to run for President too. :puke:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:05 PM
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18. Your daddy and his boss lack brains...and balls.
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 03:05 PM by edbermac
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:10 PM
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37. Huh? What do balls have to do with it? nt
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 03:34 AM
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62. My Hispanic friends call them Huevos
Independent of where they hidden in the nest it just sounds kind of gender neutral to me :shrug:
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:40 PM
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45. Dear Liz Cheney: Why are you NOT in Iraq? You can sign up now!
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 05:43 PM by Julius Civitatus
Put your money where your mouth is, gear up, and move your ass to the Green Zone, little hypocrite.
Anything short of that will show your utter hypocrisy.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 08:13 AM
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68. Little Hypocrite
If I am not mistaken. Ms Cheney is forbidden by our laws from enlisting in the armed services. She is openly Lesbian.
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ThsMchneKilsFascists Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:28 AM
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71.  Cheney has 2 daughters
Liz Cheney wrote the editorial mentioned in the OP.
Mary Cheney is openly lesbian.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-25-07 08:19 AM
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76. I stand corrected, thank you.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:59 AM
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70. Not to mention brains and hearts
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:55 PM
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2. BEEOTCH.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:55 PM
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3. So when is badass liz gonna enlist?
She's loading up her ass with some high falutin talk. Yes liz lets stay in Iraq until there are 100's of thousands of dead american Troops. Anything to make conservatives happy.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:55 PM
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6. ZING!!! BANG!!!! BOOM!!!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:55 PM
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4. I wonder how ole Lizzy is feeling now after the daddy dirt was spilled.
She has not a leg to stand on in criticizing Dems...for anything.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:55 PM
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5. She's just like her father: a nasty, GOP chickenhawk. n/t
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:56 PM
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7. Who lets his DAUGHTER attack his political adversary?
Geez, what a BIG MAN PencilDick Cheney is ...

Of course what immediately springs to mind is: What does JENNA BUSH think??????
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:09 PM
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21. CSPAN read the whole damned thiing on air this a.m. Disgusting. nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:57 PM
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8. Well why don't she get off her post partum butt and enlist?
What a shill for The War Machine and all the Corporations within the Military Industrial Complex.

You best believe that "The Cheneys'" have millions invested with the companies who make their money off of blood, guts and gore, i.e., war profiteers: ammo, arms, support, etc.

We know who were working for ... The War Profiteers of the USA political elite! :eyes:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:57 PM
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9. Can the Nasty Cheney family please return to thier underground bunker?
I like them better when they are incommunicado.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:57 PM
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10. The irony-deprived daughter of spaghetti-spined "5 deferments" Cheney
can write something like this with a straight face? Where's your steel spine, Liz? You look like you might be eligible to serve in Iraq.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:58 PM
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11. she's of age . . . but has anyone seen her down at the recruiting station . . .
signing up to fight in daddy's war? . . .

nah . . . Cheneys don't DO that . . . they just start wars and expect other families to sacrifice their sons and daughters . . .
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 02:59 PM
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12. Go down and enlist, just like your wretched Daddy did.
Oh, what's that? He didn't enlist?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:00 PM
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13. LOL! Tough talk from a whiner.
She joined the chorus giving slaps to Edwards and Kerry for simply pointing out what the world already knew -- that she is a lesbian.

She loves to be in the spotlight but then gets all bristly when someone has the "bad judgment" to talk about her.

zzztt! tell her to buzz off.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:15 PM
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23. For the record Mary Cheney is the one pregnant with a girlfriend


Other info about her (6 June 2003)

According to THE ADVOCATE, Cheney’s book NOW IT’S MY TURN has sold less than 6,000 copies since its release a month ago. The book’s sales have declined each week since the release, selling a mere 574 copies for the week ending June 3. That’s a 77% drop in sales since the book released.

Simon & Schuster paid Cheney an advance of $1 million for the rights.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:20 PM
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25. While this is Liz Cheney
She does look like she would be a munchkin in real life.


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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:22 PM
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27. oops...
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 03:23 PM by Buzz Clik
my bad.

Thanks for pointing that out.

(perhaps I should slow down and actually read the words...)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:35 PM
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31. NP... as long as everyone here is concerned about the facts
of course we can twist them a bit especially if it is the truth.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:23 PM
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28. Liz has spawned
I don't know if it was recently enough to count as post partum though.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 03:50 AM
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63. Doesn't matter. Both Cheney daughters received the Chickenhawk gene
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 04:03 AM by arewenotdemo
from dear old Dad.

She (Mary Cheney) said her father and the president focused on "what's right, rather than on what's popular," and also said she approved of how her father had handled the Iraq war.

"I think they have done the exact right thing in Iraq," she said.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1935960&page=1

They BOTH need to get their asses down to the local recruitment center, pronto. There are still teenage Iraqi boys (insurgents) and women and children to slaughter.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:01 PM
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14. Cheney's daughter is an expert on Iraq now?
When did that happen? "steel in spine" how about steel in head!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:05 PM
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17. how about "buckshot in face"? (hunting partner)
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:02 PM
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15. What a tool. nt
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:02 PM
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16. If Chelsea had made similar remarks,
The Right would be lambasting her for being "disrespectful" .


Fuck. Ing. Hypocrites.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:08 PM
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19. Fairness Doctrine
if it was in effect, we could have someone answer this smear.

After all, why is this woman an expert on Iraq. Her daddy is a five time deferrer he never even went to war.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:09 PM
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20. Insanity is inherited.
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 03:11 PM by sallyseven
I wish she would stop breeding. Her sister too.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:11 PM
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22. Ignore this bitch.
She's an idiot.
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:17 PM
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24. But Cheney has Iraq Stupidity!
Daddy's little girl!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:20 PM
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26. You know the letters S-P-I-N-E can also spell PENIS, you know
like your dad, DICK.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 07:20 AM
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66. NO NO NO
Dick is not even close to that beautiful creative organ :evilfrown:
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:29 PM
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29. Proof that stupidity is inherited.
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 03:33 PM by superconnected
Why does the press report what that horses-ass says, anyway?

Has she ever said anything mildly intelligent? no. Instead it's always blantly obvious that she needs to wash the sh* off her face from having her head too far up her dads ass.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:32 PM
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30. When is she going to enlist?
Where's her spine? Oh yeah, inherited it from her dick of a father.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:01 PM
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:36 PM
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32. Who elected this twit?
What makes her think she knows any more about this than I do?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:39 PM
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33. "Whatever it takes" is their meme suggesting Hillary is a liar
or is willing to lie or do "whatever it takes"

of course they did nothing but lie the entire 2000 campaign. Of course the out here for W is that he was never told what they had in mind he just went out and read the teleprompter and the press fell all over themselves to declare how much he didn't suck.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:41 PM
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34. Lacks your pappy's REPTILIAN spine, Liz?
Just wondering.

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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 03:45 PM
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35. Nepotism run wild.
She has been handed any number of jobs in the administration due entirely to her being CrashCart's daughter.

Her current job (from Wikipedia):

Cheney also heads the Iran-Syria Operations Group (ISOG), a unit within the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. ISOG has an $80 million budget to promote democracy in Iran and to develop administration policy for Iran and Syria.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:36 PM
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40. Oh man! Is THAT her current job?
What an utter mismatch bull in the china shop.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:27 PM
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38. Uh, since when has Clinton OPPOSED the war?
Cheney's daughter is as free and easy with lies as her dad.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:34 PM
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39. daddy`s little girl....
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/3376

"her earlier tenure, although the subject of much hand-wringing among critics who regarded her as a spy within Colin Powell's independent-minded State Department"
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:05 PM
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41. Mary's cool. But Liz is getting insulted to hell and back!
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 05:06 PM by Wizard777
Isn't Liz the one that Dick gave 100 Million to bribe middle east artists to quit paint scenes glorifying 9/11? Hope she saved her receipts for GAO.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 07:22 AM
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67. Mary is far from cool
There's not a cool one in the bunch.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:19 PM
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42. Hmm. I wonder what Cheney's garbageman thinks?
Although, knowing Cheney, he probably has a close relationship with his garbageman.
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E-Z-B Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:24 PM
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43. How ironic - this coming from someone who's father had 5 deferments during Vietnam
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:26 PM
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44. "Tough talking" bitch needs to put her ass where her mouth is
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 05:31 PM by mitchum
When are you and your spine going to enlist, Liz?
If there is any family more loathsome than the Bushes, it's the goddamn Cheneys
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Springster Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:57 AM
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65. Self Delete
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 07:01 AM by Springster
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:49 PM
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46. Please Hillary, respond by asking LIz why she isn't in Iraq. Pleeeeeezzzee. n/t
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 05:58 PM
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47. Sounds like she's trying to help Hillary to me
People can be defined by who their enemies are.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:04 PM
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:51 PM
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56. No, this is not Mary "Professional Lesbipublican" Cheney. This is the other one.
The dangerous one. The one as black-hearted as dear ol' dad.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:10 PM
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49. Hillary has a BIGGER DICK than both Cheney daughters combined
Oh wait their father IS the BIGGEST DICK, right?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:10 PM
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50. I take it she was interviewed from the Green Zone?
Because unless she was she can just stfu. Does a Cheney have any spine at all? When it comes to sending others off to fight and die sure. Going themselves? Not so much.

:eyes:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:20 PM
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51. yes - cheney family has not sping your are right n/t
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 06:21 PM by 28erl
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:25 PM
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52. Lots of people lack a spine when it comes to Iraq
I mean, when you consider all the people who have been paralyzed by explosions and such.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:39 PM
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53. Liz needs to get her story straight with her dad
Daddy-unka dick says the Democrats don't have the *stomach* for war. See? Completely different body part.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:03 PM
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54. What does she know? The Cheneys are invertebrates. nt
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:07 PM
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55. She's kind of right.
Hillary does lack the spine to do what is necessary to get the fuck out of Iraq.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:57 PM
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57. So why doesn't Liz Cheney enlist in the Army and go to Iraq to fight for what she believes?
Why should others die for her beliefs?

I don't like Hillary, but it seems that Hillary's crime is that isn't a Nazi like Cheney's father. Well, hurrah for that!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:26 PM
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58. And Cheney daughter is going to Iraq to kill and be killed WHEN?
Just wondering.

Or like daddy, has she "better things to do"?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:28 PM
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59. Your dad and Bush did do anything; they cheated the electorate
and conned the Supremes and stole two elections. So to you I say, shut up!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:58 PM
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60. Why has Liz Cheney not enlisted in the military?
She's not the lesbian, so she doesn't have that excuse.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:29 AM
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61. This out of the mouth of the 5th deferment.
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wageslave71 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 05:56 AM
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64. What she means by spine...
is the willingness to pursue a greedy personal agenda while ignoring the ill effects it has on millions of other people. What the Cheney's misconstrue as "spine", the rest of us recognize as selfish, arrogant lack of conscience.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 08:32 AM
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69. Amazing, Hillary dissidants still manage to say something negative...
...in a thread in which you'd think everyone would either defend her or at least not say anything out of a mutual respect for others here.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:49 AM
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73. I think the person you responded to was referring to the Cheney's
not Hillary.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:40 AM
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72.  War without end,profits without end
You nasty rich(stolen)bitch,in the words of your worthless daddy"go fuck yourselgf".
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 03:17 PM
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74. Liz's sanity
in it's last throes.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:29 PM
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75. sooo.... why arent you still deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs???
hmmm????

Do you lack spine, dear Lizzie, as well? Is it a congenital problem with women? Condi didn't look like she had much spine when she was in front of those hearings....

You got back problems, huh.
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