Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

AP White House rejects mandatory CO2 caps (says people will jobs)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:45 PM
Original message
AP White House rejects mandatory CO2 caps (says people will jobs)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070202/ap_on_go_co/climate_reax_us;_ylt=AmDpmTtOcl0sO40AIRUlSU8Gw_IE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-

White House rejects mandatory CO2 caps

By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer 38 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Despite a strongly worded global warming report from the world's top climate scientists, the Bush administration expressed continued opposition Friday to mandatory reductions in heat-trapping "greenhouse" gases.


Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman warned against "unintended consequences" — including job losses — that he said might result if the government requires economy-wide caps on carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels.

He and other administration officials at a news conference praised the report Friday by a
United Nations-sponsored panel of top climate scientist who said there is little doubt the earth is warming as a result of man-made emissions.

But Bodman said technology advancements that will cut the amount of carbon emissions, promote energy conservation, and hasten development of non-fossil fuels can address the problem.

"We have aggressive but practical solutions," added Stephen Johnson, administrator of the
Environmental Protection Agency.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
1. Meaning stuff their backers will like
They don't give two shits about the environment, just their fat cat bosses bottom lines and houses on the French Riveria.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Fat Cats with cigars who could also careless about U.S. jobs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. That's the irony
These assholes support trade and economic policies that export exponentially more jobs than might ever be lost through emission limits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
haymark Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
4. We need to lead by example
Park your car permanently.
Reduce your heat to a level just warm enough to keep the pipes from freezing.
Wrap or protect the pipes so you can lower the heat even more.
Swear off AC, nobody had it years ago and got along OK.
Plant some of your own vegetables and herbs organically. It will save trips to grocery store which will be troublesome without a car. Even apt dwellers can have planters on their balconies or windowsills.
Dry all laundry on the line or clothes rack...consider getting a washboard.
Get the new light bulbs, use them sparingly.

Unless we lead by example we can be labeled hypocrites.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
14. Sure they had AC units back in the old days...
They called them PORCHES back then. Ever wonder why new houses don't come with these nifty little devices? Usally came with peripherals, like TREES.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
22. I am not sure how serious you actually are
But a smaller car (or no car if you can manage it) is an excellent start. Definitely get rid of your giant SUV or McMansion if you have one. Those two steps go a long way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:17 PM
Response to Original message
5. Since WHEN do they care about job losses?
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 01:28 PM by LiberalEsto
Just look at all the layoffs, outsourcing, and insourcing of foreign workers on H1B and similar visas that have been going on in recent years.

How many tens of thousands -- hundreds of thousands -- of Americans have lost good jobs with a wink and a nod from the Misadministration? How many of these folks are now working for far less pay, with far fewer benefits?

IF the current Misadministration ever showed the faintest sign of caring about American citizens and helping them retain their jobs, only THEN would I believe they cared about jobs other than those of CEOs. And I'd likely pass out from sheer astonishment first.

This is a crock, as usual. They're so full of it, their eyes are brown.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:18 PM
Response to Original message
6. oh horseshit
Ugh.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:22 PM
Response to Original message
7. Bush Administration Says Human Climate Role Now Clear - Bloomberg
And yes, since this is LBN, that's the actual headline. :eyes:

Feb. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The human role in climate change is no longer debatable, U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said today, and he defended the president's policy of addressing the issue without mandatory greenhouse gas limits.

Bodman and other Bush administration officials were responding to a United Nations panel that concluded it is more than 90 percent certain the Earth is warming because of carbon dioxide released by burning fossil fuels. The group's report, released today in Paris, predicted rising sea levels, increased storms and more droughts and floods.

``Human activity is contributing to changes in the Earth's climate,'' Bodman said at a press conference in Washington. ``That issue is no longer up for debate.''

The Bush administration has rejected efforts to address global warming with mandatory limits on emissions of gases that cause the problem. President George W. Bush in 2001 went back on a campaign pledge and withdrew the U.S. from the Kyoto Protocol, the international agreement that forms the basis for greenhouse gas caps in Europe and elsewhere.

EDIT

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYeoMlUZyJY0&refer=home
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. wow
I'm actually shocked they've come around.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Bush is now convinced that the scientists he bribed are wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Crap! Now I have to pull all my cats off the ceiling!
They got really scared from the sound of all the freepers and right-wing nuts like Sean Insanity having their heads explode.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Okay, I'm confused. He agrees that global warming is occurring
but he will not do what is most necessary to try to halt it?

Isn't that a lot like hitting yourself in the head with hammer, complaining of a headache, and hitting yourself again?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. dont you see? you have to keep hitting yourself with the hammer...
...because if you don't, you or someone else might get to do something else with the hammer, and that would be undesirable.

Honestly, I don't think there's an analogy for this that isn't patently ridiculous.

If our race survives, in a hundred years, people will look back on this phase as analogy material in itself.

"Fred, hitting yourself in the head with that hammer is just like... well, it's like when the bush administration refused to cap CO2 emissions!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:31 PM
Response to Original message
12. The only CO2 caps Dubya even understands ...
are on the tops of Coke bottles.

But don't forget the general rule for dealing with Dubya's statements: if he says it, it's likely not true. So he showed concern for global warming in the SOTU -- that likely means he doesn't care.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theaudacity Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:40 PM
Response to Original message
13. Q: How are Republicans like 30 year olds who live with their parents?
A: They are only willing to make a change in their lives if there will be no pain or expense involved.

They will only change their living situation when their mom dies.

Republican will only make changes when Washington is underwater.

Republicans, listen: Of course there is a temporary economic downside, but sometimes progress hurts. Put on a jock strap and take the kick like a man.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Hah... nice analogy!
Welcome to DU! :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:48 PM
Response to Original message
16. As if they care if people lose jobs...
hello? H1-B visas?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
18. Where Bush is concerned, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:21 PM by Seabiscuit
While finally grudgingly acknowledging the fact of global warming, and human contribution to it, he still refuses to change his position favoring the energy pollutors. Same old, same old bullshit rationale he used to pull out of Kyoto 6 years ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:12 PM
Response to Original message
19. Like Republicans give a shit about other people's jobs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
20. What losers this admin. is.
They bail out airline industry with loads of cash.... they HAD to really. Right now there's nothing making them HAVE to do anything. They COULD find work for these people in the companies investing in (pick one out of a hundred)ways to have and use renewable resources. They could give these companies money to fit the costs of AT LEAST hiring these "environmentally displaced workers". Gees.

UN-CURIOUS GEORGE. No f*ing imagination. Truthfully, as we all know he is a lousy business man... any good business person (esp. one with HUGE capitol) knows you get in on the ground of the future business. Environment is where it is at.

Ughhhhhh and ughhhh...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 06:34 PM
Response to Original message
21. They scoff at scientific computer climate modelling
Because their economic computer modelling doesn't agree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 07:50 PM
Response to Original message
23. In some areas
There will be much bigger job losses in the future because major points of commerce will be underwater. They need to start thinking beyond the short term.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 05:41 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC