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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:37 PM
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December 22 Newsweek preview.....Regime Change in Iran?
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3706341/

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Dec. 22 issue - What was international man of mystery Manucher Ghorbanifar up to when he met with top Pentagon experts on Iran? In a NEWSWEEK interview in Paris last month, Ghorbanifar, a former Iranian spy who helped launch the Iran-contra affair, says one of the things he discussed with Defense officials Harold Rhode and Larry Franklin at meetings in Rome in December 2001 (and in Paris last June with only Rhode) was regime change in Iran. Ghorbanifar says there are Iranians capable of organizing a peaceful revolution against the ruling theocracy. He says his contacts know where Saddam Hussein hid $340 million in cash. With American help, he says, this money could be retrieved and half used to overthrow the ayatollahs. (The other half would be turned over to the United States.) Ghorbanifar says he told his U.S. interlocutors that ousting the mullahs would be a breakthrough in the war on terror because top Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden, are in Iran. ("You won't be surprised if you find that Saddam Hussein is on one of the Iranian islands.") Among other intel Ghorbanifar says he and associates gave the Pentagon: a warning that terrorists in Iraq would attack hotels. He also says he had advance info about Iranian nukes and a terrorist plot in Canada. Financial gain was never his objective, he says: "We wanted to give them the money, not to take the money."
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When senior officials learned in 2002 about Ghorbanifar—and that regime change was on his agenda—they decided further contacts were "not worth pursuing." But Ghorbanifar says he continued to communicate with Rhode, and sometimes Franklin, by phone and fax five or six times a week until shortly after the Paris meeting last summer. (The Pentagon says any such contacts were sporadic and not authorized by top officials.) In Congress, investigations into the Ghorbanifar story have sparked partisan tensions. Democrats want to know if the Ghorbanifar contacts are evidence of "rogue" espionage by a secretive Pentagon unit that allegedly dealt with controversial Iraqi exile Ahmad Chalabi; Republicans want to know whether the CIA refused to meet with potential informants merely because the middleman—Ghorbanifar—was someone the agency distrusted. A Defense official says any discussion that Ghorbanifar had with Pentagon experts about regime change was a "one-way conversation."
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Should be quite interesting...Hope this counts for breaking news as it is in preview form...if not sincerely apologize and look for a lock!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:42 PM
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1. This guy helped start Iran-contra?
He should fit right in the BFEE. These people are SO into nation-destroying-then-giving-their-financial-backers-contracts-for-mass-profit, er, I mean nation-building. Is there ANY campaign promise Bush hasn't gone back upon?

Leave Iran alone.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:06 PM
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4. they're only interested in nation-looting, including ours nt
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:18 PM
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5. Please check out the article I posted here if you think that is all
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:51 PM
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2. Until I saw this, I'll be honest...
I thought Syria was the next prospective PNAC/Neo-Con target for a "regime change". Putting oneself uncomfortably in their shoes, wouldn't Syria make more sense, as it is 1) Much smaller in both population and standing army than Iran; 2) On the Mediterranean; 3)Therefore more directly accessible as an oil and gas pipeline terminus from Iraq, and 4) The #1 Arab military enemy of Israel?

Still think it would be more likely as the next PNAC "domino" in the Middle East for those, among other, reasons. But knowing those Neo-Cons, they're always open to advice and help with potential FUTURE dominos!:eyes:

B-)

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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 01:59 PM
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3. Still feel it is Syria .. Iran will try to be handled under the table ...
'coup'. Could blow up in their faces. I posted this because I think that it is going to happen and that they are trying to manipulate it behind the scenes...maybe the 2004 surprise if they don't pull OBL out of the proverbial hat!
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:26 PM
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6. A vote for the Republicans and Bush is a vote for war!
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 02:27 PM by loudnclear
Carry the message forward! Put them on the defense.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:37 PM
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7. Why not?
We're on a roll now...

Before you know it there'll be U.S. military bases there also.
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