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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:28 PM
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Skeptics Doubt U.S. Evidence on Iran’s Actions in Iraq
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/world/middleeast/13weapons.html?hp&ex=1171342800&en=807e1132fc3d3585&ei=5094&partner=homepage

WASHINGTON, Feb. 12 — Three weeks after promising it would show proof of Iranian meddling in Iraq, the Bush administration has laid out its evidence — and received in return a healthy dose of skepticism.

U.S. Says Arms Link Iranians to Iraqi Shiites (February 12, 2007)
Deadliest Bomb in Iraq Is Made by Iran, U.S. Says (February 10, 2007) The response from Congressional and other critics speaks volumes about the current state of American credibility, four years after the intelligence controversy leading up to the Iraq war. To pre-empt accusations that the charges against Iran were politically motivated, the administration rejected the idea of a high-level presentation, relying instead on military and intelligence officers to make its case in a background briefing in Baghdad.

Even so, critics have been quick to voice doubts. Representative Silvestre Reyes of Texas, the Democratic chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, suggested that the White House was more interested in sending a message to Tehran than in backing up serious allegations with proof. And David Kay, who once led the hunt for illicit weapons in Iraq, said the grave situation in Iraq should have taught the Bush administration to put more of a premium on transparency when it comes to intelligence.

“If you want to avoid the perception that you’ve cooked the books, you come out and make the charges publicly,” Mr. Kay said.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:33 PM
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1. "skeptics" = most the entire world, including most intel experts.
Funny how the US "media" -#53 in Freedom of the Press world ranking- never bothers to point such facts out.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:34 PM
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2. Well, speaking from experience today, people are talking about this.
This is a sore spot for many, many people. Fool me once and all that.

MKJ
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:34 PM
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3. You know it seems we saw this show before
I am sure we use 81mm shells. With the Military equipment Iran has most coming from China and the former U.S.S.R if I remember right they use 82mm shells. What Gates showed was 81mm shells. I smell a fish here
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:38 PM
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5. Not only that


The year 2006 won't come to Iran for a long assed time since it is only 1385 there now.

http://www.iranchamber.com/calendar/iranian_calendar_converter.php

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:43 PM
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6. That thing looks funky
looks like a fat guy with a lamp shade for a hat, and shorts around his ankles.

For a moment I thought it was from The Onion.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:49 PM
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7. LOL
Life of the party, no doubt. If your your on the sender's side of things.

Otherwise a bad day is coming your way.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:37 PM
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4. Nice noun choice..
"Skeptics"...should be "Any thinking human being's on the planet" I just love the word-play..
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:54 PM
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8. nothing coming out of this admin of lies is believable
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 10:55 PM
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9. Gee, ya' think?
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:17 PM
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10. Top US General Peter Pace skeptic?
NY Times truely is a joke. Their reporting these last couple of days has been atrocious.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 11:26 PM
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11. General Pace said there was no evidence the Iranian government was involved
This is like accusing the Russians of arming the insurgents because they use AK-47s.
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