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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:01 PM
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Iraqi security adviser: Iran has stopped interfering in Iraq
BAGHDAD (CNN) -- Iraq's national security adviser said Sunday Iran has stopped interfering in Iraq, rejecting one of the top messages the Bush administration has been sending to the world in recent days.

"In the last few weeks, they have changed their position, and they stopped a lot of their tactics and a lot of intervention or interference in the Iraqi internal affairs," Mowaffak al-Rubaie told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

Asked whether he believes Iranians have stopped interfering and providing military resources or training to groups within the country, al-Rubaie responded, "That is absolutely right."

link; http://us.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/25/sunday/index.html
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:13 PM
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1. WOW, so he just admitted Iran was active in Iraq.
He should also say what was the reason for ending their interference in the vacuum of Iraq.
ya think the stringer would have asked that eh?

also from the same link;

Al-Rubaie is a member of the Shiite parliamentary bloc which has close ties to Iran.
<snip>
Al-Rubaie urges patience with Baghdad security plan
BAGHDAD (CNN) -- While the Iraqi-led plan to secure Baghdad has had some positive results in recent weeks, Iraq's National Security Adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie Sunday urged patience and said it could take months before there are "tangible" successes over the sectarian warfare in the Iraqi capital.

"We should not look at this Baghdad security plan in terms of days or even weeks," al-Rubaie told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

"Probably we will see a tangible success or measurable success by Easter time (early April)."


http://us.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/02/25/sunday/index.html

Happy Easter eh? I didn't think Easter was a big deal celebration in Iraq but I will take him at his word.... ;)

OK, Al-Rubaie , I will quote you on that as you are now 'on the clock'
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:20 PM
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2. Your um, point is?
You're practically making this a personal crusade against this man and I don't see any explanation for it. Like this is a big 'gotcha' game and you just caught someone. And it's like, um... so Iran was active in Iraq, what's your point? This some terrible secret no one knew at all?
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:30 PM
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6. acorrding some on here
irans involvement was some vast PNAC/AIPAC conspiracy to launch an attack on iran. I still dont see why they shut the syrian/iranian border for only 3 days, it should be permanent until the flow of weapons slows down.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:33 PM
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7. Wha? Uh, ... Wha?
Iran's involvement in Iraq was a vast conspiracy by Americans and Israelis? ...Why? Why would it be? Does Iran need an excuse to try to have influence in a country with a huge American military presence on its national borders? Is there something I'm missing here!?

And I thought Iran was arming SCIRI, which was supposed to be a US ally in Iraq!?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:04 PM
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10. I call that border idea positive redeployment
We can't be up their urban asses doing a police patrol mission our military isn't supposed to do.
Our troops need to operate like a real Lawrence of Arabia nomad division,
out of the cities and out of sight, except for border crossings where they would be thick as thieves
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:58 PM
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9. Did you read the article I quoted?
He said progress is being made and it will take months to see it through.

Yet in the US MSM, we only get stories of failure, despair and death.

Tell me, which is the more reliable source ?

My point;
I will save this thread and news link ( as I like to do others )and review them after Easter just to see if our MSM is giving us a true picture or his words of progress are the lies.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:09 PM
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11. Neither he or the MSM can know the result of this for certain!
I certainly have my opinion about it - that it's not gonna work as envisioned - but lies are about misleading about something you know about with certainty (i.e. that you know to be true)...

Why would I *CARE* which is the more reliable source!? I don't trust either of them! That's why I don't see the point in this at all, sorry.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:22 PM
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3. Ok, mission accomplished. Victory= troops home
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:25 PM
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4. Al-Rubaie is a member of the Shiite parliamentary bloc
Al-Rubaie is a member of the Shiite parliamentary bloc which has close ties to Iran. (Posted 11:50 a.m.)
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:29 PM
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5. LOL! Mr. Fox: We've fixed that security problem in the henhouse.
Al Rubaie also denied any evidence of Iranian meddling in Iraq
during a 2005 visit to Tehran. He also turned a blind eye
to the torture chambers run by the Badr-infiltrated Interior
Ministry.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:42 PM
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8. ummm.... Was al-rubaie Elected by Them The People of IraQNam?
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 12:43 PM by Amonester
Or Was he just... $elected?

I thought monkey said he Wanted to "bring democra$$y" to IraQNam! :shrug:


Edited for closing " and :sarcasm:
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:54 PM
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13. Proportional representation.
His name was on a party list.

No sarcasm.
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Amused Musings Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 03:39 PM
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12. So much of the Bush
strategy against Iran was based on a successful war in Iraq. But that Iraq is a disaster did not seem to stop the Bush administration from carrying on the same strategy. When I was in Washington, experts on Iran would lament that there were actually secret talks going on between the US and Iran over dismantling their nucear program pre-war. Then came the war in Iraq and talks have ended and never really resumed. I also don't understand why the US does not reach out more to Iran as that country, more than any of the arab countries, has done more to legitimize the current Iraqi regime. The US' current antagonistic stance against Iran is what prompted that country in the first place to provide military resources to the Shia (that and the US' inability to protect Shia from Sunni and foreign (read al-Qaeda inspired fighters) insurgents from blowing them up.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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14. Kick.
:kick:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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15. CNN International: Iraq Official Says Iran Has Stopped Meddling
http://edition.cnn.com:80/2007/WORLD/meast/02/25/iraq.iran/

Iraq official says Iran has stopped meddling
POSTED: 1846 GMT (0246 HKT), February 25, 2007

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq's national security adviser said Sunday Iran has stopped interfering in Iraq.

The comments by Mowaffak al-Rubaie contradict one of the top messages the Bush administration has been sending to the world in recent days.

"In the last few weeks, they have changed their position, and they stopped a lot of their tactics and a lot of intervention or interference in the Iraqi internal affairs," al-Rubaie told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer."

Asked whether he believes Iranians have stopped interfering and providing military resources or training to groups within the country, al-Rubaie responded, "That is absolutely right." Al-Rubaie is a member of the Shiite parliamentary bloc, which has close ties to Iran.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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16. Now let's see if we can get the Saudis to stop "meddling." n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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17. Phew! Do you think the dim one got the meme? nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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18. umm. a Shiite with close ties to IraN.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:11 AM
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19. "Probably we will see a tangible success or... by Easter time [early April]."...
"We should not look at this Baghdad security plan in terms of days or even weeks," he said.

"Probably we will see a tangible success or measurable success by Easter time ."

He said there had been a reduction in execution-style killings and roadside bombs that has boosted the confidence of Iraqi security forces. "It is sky-high," he said.

Also, Baghdad residents are more willing to show Iraqi forces "the hideouts and the whereabouts of the terrorists," al-Rubaie said.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 04:12 AM
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20. they are not meddling - they are assisting Maliki,
"our" guy in Iraq. He told them to back off so it would look like the US was gaining ground so the bucks would continue to flow for the foreseeable future. The end game is not in doubt - a terrorist Shiite Iraq in league with a one time foe - funded and made possible by us.

I truly hate Bush - no Republic could hate Hillary more than I hate Bush.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:04 AM
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21. US forces in Iraq say found more Iran-made weapons
BAGHDAD, Feb 26 (Reuters) - The U.S. military showed on Monday what it said was further evidence of Iranian-made weapons being used by Iraqi militants fighting American troops, including components to build sophisticated roadside bombs.

The weapons, including mortar bombs and rockets, were found during a raid by U.S. forces and Iraqi police on Saturday near the volatile city of Baquba, north of Baghdad.

Washington, which accuses Iran of fanning violence in Iraq, is particularly concerned about so-called "explosively formed penetrators", a sophisticated Iranian-made roadside bomb the U.S. military says has killed 170 U.S. soldiers in Iraq since 2004. Iran denies the charge.

http://mobile.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IBO635076.htm
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