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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:17 PM
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AP: Bush Avoids Talk About Child Health Care
Bush Avoids Talk About Child Health Care

By ROBERT TANNER
The Associated Press
Monday, February 26, 2007; 12:07 PM

WASHINGTON -- President Bush encouraged governors Monday to support his call for changing the tax code to help more people buy private health care insurance, but did not address their pleas to increase funding for a health care program that insures millions of children of the working poor.

The budget dispute dominated discussions among governors Sunday, who promised to bring the matter to Bush and his Cabinet officials to their private meetings Monday.

At stake is coverage for 6 million people, overwhelmingly children, as well as the hopes of many governors in tackling the larger challenge of the uninsured. All governors rely on the State Children's Health Insurance Program, intended to aid uninsured working families.

Bush, welcoming the governors after they met privately with several administration officials, did not offer any comments about the children's health program, talking rather about his larger proposals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/26/AR2007022600255.html
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:23 PM
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1. When will this nightmare end?


President Bush, second from left, addresses the National Governors Association (NGA), Monday, Feb. 26, 2007, in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington. From left are, NGA Chairwoman, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, the president, Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, and Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak) (Charles Dharapak - AP)
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:25 PM
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3. Gov. Napolitano looks like she's thinking, "What a f'ing moron." nt
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:02 PM
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4. I will never understand why Americans put up with this crap.
I will never understand why they aren't protesting everyday by the thousands.

I've participated in most of the vigils and protests, and write my reps fairly regularly. Oh, that's right - it doesn't seem to be doing much good (cue - screaming).

:banghead:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 12:23 PM
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2. cpan had the speech on a bit ago. It was Bush and his laudry list of
the WH great accomplishments.

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:03 PM
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5. Oh, I'm glad I didn't have to listen to that ..
:puke:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:14 PM
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6. Bush Avoids Talk About Child Health Care
Bush Avoids Talk About Child Health Care
Bush Urges Governors to Back Tax Code Reforms, Avoids Addressing Child Health Care Pleas

By ROBERT TANNER AP National Writer

WASHINGTON Feb 26, 2007 (AP)— President Bush encouraged governors Monday to support his call for changing the tax code to help more people buy private health care insurance, but did not address their pleas to increase funding for a health care program that insures millions of children of the working poor.

The budget dispute dominated discussions among governors Sunday, who promised to bring the matter to Bush and his Cabinet officials to their private meetings Monday.

At stake is coverage for 6 million people, overwhelmingly children, as well as the hopes of many governors in tackling the larger challenge of the uninsured. All governors rely on the State Children's Health Insurance Program, intended to aid uninsured working families.

Bush, welcoming the governors after they met privately with several administration officials, did not offer any comments about the children's health program, talking rather about his larger proposals.
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2905156&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:14 PM
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7. He hated the CHIP program in Texas.
I guess he has something against funding healthcare for children... :shrug:
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:14 PM
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8. He DID address their pleas to increase funding for S-CHIP -
maybe not in that particular meeting.

He told them to pound sand. His proposed budget doesn't even meet the needs for the current eligibility, let alone expand the program, as many want to do.

Shall we talk cost-effectiveness here? Unless you are going to eliminate charity care, it is far more cost-effective to support children's healthcare, than to let them go without - because when kids go without healthcare, they become adults with more, worse, and costlier health problems.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:52 PM
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12. yes, and they do not get immunized,
and, when sick, they utilize emergency rooms at tremendous public cost.
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Bob Loblaw Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:28 PM
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9. To paraphrase Kanye West...
Bush doesn't care about young people.

Truth is you could probably take out the word young.
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JennyH Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:07 PM
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16. Agreed
GWB is bankrupt when it comes to compassion or empathy. He only seems to be able to relate to those in privileged circumstances.


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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:40 PM
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10. specifics...no specifics...rather more ambiguity and a lions share of vagary
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:51 PM
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11. As the late,great Molly Ivins pointed out,one thing Smirk does well is stay on point
when speaking about policy. A polite way of saying he doesn't have the capability to discuss anything at all off his daily agenda.

To paraphrase Poppy : Message - Screw your Child Health Care concerns. I'm here to blow smoke up your ass about all our great success in ........
Anything else is more than his little reptile brain can handle.
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:53 PM
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13. "larger proposals" ??
millions of poor children without health care is then a minor/lesser issue?

Wonder what the rhetoric would be if they were to talk about millions of abortions?
A lesser proposal then?
--we all know the answer to that!

How many children will die because of insufficient health care?
These jokers are Right to Life until the fetus is born, then that Right to Life seems to expire especially if it costs these fine, "moral", "Compassionate" Conservatives (and their "normal" Republican enablers) their millionaire tax cuts!

But I wonder, even if they were to keep their bountiful tax cuts, would they then support health care for our nation's needy children?

Again, I believe the answer is obvious.
What a sorry State.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:32 AM
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28. Great point.
That's why I use the term pro-life to exclusively mean pro single-payer, universal healthcare. It truly is the only pro-life position. Even if you're anti-abortion, if you're against single-payer, you're pro-death.


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 01:57 PM
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14. people can`t afford private insurance
what the hell good would it do to change the tax law...i wish he would just go away and let the adults do their jobs
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 02:13 PM
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15. From the SOTU Address:
A future of hope and opportunity requires that all our citizens have affordable and available health care. (Applause.) When it comes to health care, government has an obligation to care for the elderly, the disabled, and poor children. And we will meet those responsibilities. For all other Americans, private health insurance is the best way to meet their needs. (Applause.) But many Americans cannot afford a health insurance policy.

And so tonight, I propose two new initiatives to help more Americans afford their own insurance. First, I propose a standard tax deduction for health insurance that will be like the standard tax deduction for dependents. Families with health insurance will pay no income on payroll tax -- or payroll taxes on $15,000 of their income. Single Americans with health insurance will pay no income or payroll taxes on $7,500 of their income. With this reform, more than 100 million men, women, and children who are now covered by employer-provided insurance will benefit from lower tax bills. At the same time, this reform will level the playing field for those who do not get health insurance through their job. For Americans who now purchase health insurance on their own, this proposal would mean a substantial tax savings -- $4,500 for a family of four making $60,000 a year. And for the millions of other Americans who have no health insurance at all, this deduction would help put a basic private health insurance plan within their reach. Changing the tax code is a vital and necessary step to making health care affordable for more Americans. (Applause.)

My second proposal is to help the states that are coming up with innovative ways to cover the uninsured. States that make basic private health insurance available to all their citizens should receive federal funds to help them provide this coverage to the poor and the sick. I have asked the Secretary of Health and Human Services to work with Congress to take existing federal funds and use them to create "Affordable Choices" grants. These grants would give our nation's governors more money and more flexibility to get private health insurance to those most in need.

There are many other ways that Congress can help. We need to expand Health Savings Accounts. (Applause.) We need to help small businesses through Association Health Plans. (Applause.) We need to reduce costs and medical errors with better information technology. (Applause.) We will encourage price transparency. And to protect good doctors from junk lawsuits, we passing medical liability reform. (Applause.) In all we do, we must remember that the best health care decisions are made not by government and insurance companies, but by patients and their doctors.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/01/20070123-2.html


As usual, he's a lying sack of shit.
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:03 PM
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19. what part of I'm telling a lie, don't you get?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:56 PM
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26. OMG! Did he open his mouth?
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 03:59 PM
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17. Just a good Christian (tm) value kinda guy!
Jesus talked about "suffer the children", but he didn't say ANYTHING in the Bible about insuring them!!!
Bush to self: hmmm, "suffer the children...yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing! Good for me! The Fundies are gonna love this..."

Sick F*** :mad: fgr
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:02 PM
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18. Suffer the little children to come unto him-
and then quietly drop dead please, I'm trying to take a nap here.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:18 PM
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20. Sociopath...
x(
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:24 PM
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21. Just hand it all over to Halliburton with a no-bid $$$$ Gov't Contract
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 05:25 PM by Zambero
He & Cheney would kick it straight to the top of their laundry list if they could somehow finagle it. Halliburton would then "Iraqify" the children's health program by cutting corners, denying as much assistance (and keeping as much moolah) as it could get away with, and still put in outrageous claims for gov't compensation. Privitization at it's finest!
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 05:44 PM
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22. Silly Governors!!
Edited on Mon Feb-26-07 05:48 PM by SemperEadem
that's because they breathe air, not amniotic fluid! Children should have no expectation of health care after they're born. :sarcasm:
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againes Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:08 PM
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23. Sorry sack of shit
Bush is so sorry. I myself am uninsured, as is my husband and daughter. We can not afford to pay $800 a month for private insurance, and we make just enough to not qualify for the state health care for my daughter. It is sad that I have to hope and pray that she never gets too sick or injured. It is a gamble every day. Sad sad sad that he cares more about "freeing Iraq" than insuring his own. What is this county coming to?????????? It scares the hell out of me.

Anyone know of another country that I can move to???
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:16 PM
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24. The man's a sociopath
Why would he give a damn about anything other than padding the pockets of his "base" and the parasites in the insurance industry?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:34 PM
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25. why should he worry about the children
they can't vote and they do not make political contributions . . . .
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 09:35 PM
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27. Health Care that is NO ADDITIONAL COST to EVERYONE, paid by TAXES.
Universal coverage for EVERYONE.

Period.

I will accept nothing less.

A completely GOVERNMENT funded and provided for program.

Anything less is useless...
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