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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:10 PM
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Immigrants boost pay, not prison populations, new studies show
Two new studies by California researchers counter negative perceptions that immigrants increase crime and job competition, showing that they are incarcerated at far lower rates than native-born citizens and actually help boost their wages.

A study released Tuesday by the Public Policy Institute of California found that immigrants who arrived in the state between 1990 and 2004 increased wages for native workers by an average 4%.

UC Davis economist Giovanni Peri, who conducted the study, said the benefits were shared by all native-born workers, from high school dropouts to college graduates, because immigrants generally perform complementary rather than competitive work.
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Another study released Monday by the Washington-based Immigration Policy Center showed that immigrant men ages 18 to 39 had an incarceration rate five times lower than native-born citizens in every ethnic group examined. Among men of Mexican descent, for instance, 0.7% of those foreign-born were incarcerated compared to 5.9% of native-born, according to the study, co-written by UC Irvine sociologist Ruben G. Rumbaut.

Both studies are based on U.S. census data, which includes both legal and illegal immigrants. They were released just days before the U.S. Congress is to restart debate on major immigration reform legislation and as numerous states, including Texas, consider harsh measures against illegal migrants.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-me-immigstudy28feb28,1,4004926.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:12 PM
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1. Funny how they boost everyone else's pay except their own.
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:43 PM
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2. Here is the logic of how they boost natives up the ladder:
Sounds reasonable to me.



As immigrants filled lower-skilled jobs, they pushed natives up the economic ladder into employment that required more English or know-how of the U.S. system, he said.

"The big message is that there is no big loss from immigration," Peri said. "There are gains, and these are enjoyed by a much bigger share of the population than is commonly believed."
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 02:08 PM
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3. Flies in the face of a lot of what I've seen on this board.
But let's ignore the research and go with our "truthier" gut feelings, eh?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 02:13 PM
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4. I'm sorry I saw studies that showed Global Warming didn't exist
paid for by Oil companies

that doesn't mean it is true...

All I know is American wages have gone down
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 02:19 PM
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5. The PPIC report is available in its entirety online, FYI
http://www.ppic.org/main/publication.asp?i=737

This issue of California Counts examines the effects of the arrival of immigrants between 1960 and 2004 on the employment, population, and wages of U.S. natives in California. Among the study’s principal findings:
1) There is no evidence that the influx of immigrants over the past four decades has worsened the employment opportunities of natives with similar education and experience,
2) There is no association between the influx of immigrants and the out-migration of natives within the same education and age group,
3) Immigration induced a 4 percent real wage increase for the average native worker between 1990 and 2004,
4) Recent immigrants did lower the wages of previous immigrants.


One data limitation is that the study can not segregate illegal from legal immigrants in the analysis,a difference that may help explain the fourth finding. The foreign born include a much higher percentage of PhD holders than the native born residents and a much higher percentage of those lacking a high school diploma.
In 2004, two-thirds of high school dropout workers and 42 percent of workers with a Ph.D. in California were immigrants, compared to only 21 percent of workers with some college education.




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fairplay Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 12:47 AM
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6. Its ILLEGAL immigrants
Please distinguish between illegal and illegal immigrants!
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 12:28 PM
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7. Sorry, don't understand your point.
The PPIC analysis relied on standard data sets and those data do not categorize the foreign born by immigration status. Thus there is no separation in their analysis of legal and illegal immigrants.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 12:54 PM
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8. There is very little controversy around immigrants. The problem is *illegal* immigrants.
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 12:55 PM by w4rma
Its very dishonest to talk about one as if it were equivalent to the other, when they are not.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 01:32 PM
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9. The consumer price index has risen in lock step with the immigration rate
for basically every year that the CPI has been measured. The argument about wages is debatable both ways but the fact that the price of consumer goods increases with increasing immigration is not debatable. The relationship is undeniable; therefore, even if you aren't having your wages depressed directly by immigrants (legal, illegal, or both), you are having your wages deprtessed indirectly by the decreased purchasing power of your earned income incured as a result of the immigration. Bring on the flames baby.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:38 PM
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10. Kick
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 09:39 PM by lady lib
Too late to recommend :(
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