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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:00 PM Original message |
Catholic Church buries limbo after centuries |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. For God's sake! How low can you go? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. LOL! |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Well, the traditional answer to that is one major step lower -- |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. You're quick on the draw, Dora |
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scot (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
64. I prostrate myself before your comedic benevolent highness. |
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bmbmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
109. Jack be nimble, Jack be quick- |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. People are still taking this stuff seriously |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's shit like "limbo"... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Hey, it's a bit passe -- |
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RoseMead (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. What about Original Sin? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. if the concept of original sin offends you (it does me), check out "Original Blessing" . . . |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. The Church has opened up a can of worms. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Lutheranism seems to do fine with original sin and no limbo |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. That may be fine with Lutherans |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
82. the can of worms isn't really opened |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I was always |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. Who taught you that? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Yes, the Protestant churches all broke off AFTER the concept of original sin was invented. nt |
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B3Nut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Most Protestants hold to original sin, however |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 05:17 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Point being that original sin does not need limbo to function |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. That's if one wants to believe in a theory called "original sin" developed a mere |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
105. "Original sin" is a shaky theological construct anyway, imo. |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. Breaking news.... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. That's enough out of you, Galileo! |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
78. Actually it was Bruno who was burned at the stake by the POPE |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. Now, grandmas can stop baptizing babies in secret at the kitchen sink |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
68. yes, cause these infants will be saved: |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I've always found the whole thing nauseating |
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ChickMagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
108. Derby and I call these steath baptisms |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. Why do I get the feeling that |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It has to be related to abortion because |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. If aborted fetuses go to heaven |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Very, very good point |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. Sounds reasonable to me |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. ah, but a potential loophole |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 06:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Now we're crossing the line into Protestant beliefs |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. Except of course for the gay babies..They'll still go to hell |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Q: Has the Catholic Church decided that gays are born that way? nt |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. NOW what the hell am I going to do for fun.. |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. Well there's always limbaugh |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. If they get rid of Purgatory I'm in some deep do-dooo...n/t |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. Isn't that funny, Limbo? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bummer. I know so many people who lived there. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. So what happens t o all those babies who died before they were baptized? |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Good questions. There are probably still some people in hell |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Catholic theology does not state the pope is infallible |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
62. So why is the Pope called the "Holy See"? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 07:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
100. The Pope isn't called the Holy See. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
79. And they're usually issues relating to women or sexuality or both. Celibate men have lots of |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. IIRC excathedra statements are usually about the status of the virgin mary |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #79 |
101. No, they aren't. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. "There are reasons to hope that God will save these infants precisely because it wasn't possible..." |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
67. hell? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
99. They go to heaven. |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
107. They're hanging out with cavemen and others who lived before Christ |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. So if church laws are eternal and the pope is infalible... |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. At least ONE of the popes must be fallible |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. The Pope doesn't declare himself infallible all the time. Only when he speaks 'ex cathedra.' |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. "I dont recall" |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Well, they can always say that the mistake was made by ... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. Some on DU need to brush up on their theology. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. God upgraded His OS |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. Ha! They have as much authority to bury it as they had to promote it: NONE! n/t |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Oh, I'm in favor of giving them the authority to do whatever they want with Limbo, ... |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. The one by Chubby Checker? |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. Vatican commission: Limbo reflects 'restrictive view of salvation' (CNS) |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Well, they tell the truth about one thing: |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is a doctrinal nightmare for the Vatican Taliban |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
27. so basically, the concept of limbo is left hanging ... in some indeterminate place |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
76. Best post of the year! |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. But won't that traumatize it's inhabitants -- some of which may have been there for centuries? |
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DrZeeLit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
35. This blog post is hysterical. You must see it! Pope tossing babies.... |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
39. *Gasp* You mean ... religion ... can be WRONG? !!! Say it ain't so!!! |
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La_Fourmi_Rouge (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
40. The Vatican is a Den of Thieves. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. In Soviet Russia Limbo buries Catholic Church |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
91. ... |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
44. So where do the "good" of other religions go now? |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The problem with Catholic Schools is |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
46. I for one am glad to hear this |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Isn't it amazing that the Pope can just make an entire realm of non-existence disappear? |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. yep one solitary MAN |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
77. Follow the money |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
84. Did he speak on Purgatory at all? I thought the statement was limited to Limbo. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
102. Nope, Purgatory is still open for business. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. Looks like Heaven is about to have one helluva immigration problem. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. bwahahaha |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. And they go after scientists who change their own views |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Hey, they let Galileo off the hook |
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BrainRants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
57. Limbo is dead? Was it the oxycontin or Viagra? |
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Rowdy Church (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. Talk About Funny |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
59. When did God die and put the Church in charge? |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
60. how can we not think that men make up religion when they arbitrarily decide limbo is not real |
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onager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. St. Augustine invented Original Sin |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
89. IIRC the Orthodox Christians don't beleive in "Original Sin" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Man invented gods. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #63 |
103. He never got over his Manichaeism |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
65. this is a pro-life move |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
70. Reason and rationality are inversely proportional to the amount of faith a person has. nt |
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Oldtimeralso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
74. I didn't know... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
86. My mother, |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
88. Oh, hell. Now I have to re-do my lesson plans. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. True. It's amazing that christians think that Teddy Haggard, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #90 |
106. I'm always amazed when people continue to fall for this medieval crap. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
93. what, do they do this every 20 years or so? the catholic church must be desperate for attention. n/t |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
94. I can't wait for him to enter the Abyss. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
96. all those poor stillborn and other dead babies |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-23-07 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
104. Now, if the Catholic Church |
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