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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:00 AM
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Protest by Truckers May Hobble Beltway
Source: Washington Post

Tuesday, April 24, 2007; Page B03

Drivers on the Capital Beltway could find themselves in the middle of a protest by truckers today and tomorrow that might slow traffic.

Organizers of the event have called on truckers to take up all lanes of the Beltway and drive the speed limit. The protest was planned to last from early morning until 5 p.m. through tomorrow.

The action was organized to protest illegal immigration and the ability Mexican truckers will soon have to operate in the United States. It was timed to coincide with a four-day rally in Washington in favor of immigration restrictions.

There were no reports of organized protests yesterday, according to area transportation officials. One driver saw several trucks going slowly in a single lane on the outer loop near Springfield about 10:15 a.m., but it was unclear whether they were part of the demonstration.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/23/AR2007042301705.html
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:05 AM
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1. I understand they're trying to make a point
But the only people who will get hurt are the people who, more than likely, agree with them.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:16 AM
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6. Boy are they going to get us..make us obey the law and drive the speed limit
In America we don't obey the Laws. We are Bush* Amerika.......Off with their heads....
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:20 AM
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12. Anytime labour tries to show spine...
folks pull that moldy chestnut out. Frankly (and this is not directed to you personally), I am sick and tired of it. It shows a selfishness and self centeredness. They are protesting for ALL of us. Who wants to see horrible accidents involving family vehicles and potentially unsafe trucks. Who wants to see another high paying job be outsourced via NAFTA. Certainly not me. Use that time in traffic to call your rep. Show your support and pull off the road and have a leisurely cup of coffee. You have an excuse. Is your job so important that you can't see the bigger picture. It was labour actions of our father and grandfathers that gave us better working conditions. These are the laws that the folks are trying to strip away. Just suck it up and support your working brothers and sisters.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 09:46 AM
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16. I'm glad you're not directing those comments towards me
Because I do protest and will continue to protest, especially against this illegal, immoral war. However, I believe there are ways to get your point across without alienating the people who agree with you. That's my only point. If their purpose is to be heard then why not take a convoy to Congress, which I thought was the original idea.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:19 PM
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19. I realize that is an oft repeated phrase...
but I for one think it needs to be retired.
These guys HAVE been trying to get the message across, but unless these folks inside the beltway experience some discomfort-they are totally disconnected. The only way to get to them is on their way to work.

Drive a convoy to Congress? Yeah I am sure that will fly with Homeland Security. This action is the next best thing they can do and folks need to understand that. I have lobbied Congress before. Believe me, they are insulated from far too much.

This is the least disruptive thing they can do. I don't know how many of you remember when they had a wildcat strike. I remember the store shelves getting pretty empty. Now THAT was disruptive.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 10:46 AM
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18. It's not a matter of outsourcing good jobs anymore, it's outsourcing bad jobs, now.
A lot of people who've lost good factory jobs turn to trucking as an alternative. Going by the steady demand for new drivers, I'd hazard a guess that the pay isn't what it's claimed to be and the working conditions are just about intolerable.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:28 PM
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20. Yepers....
My brother finally called it quits, parked his rig in the yard until he sold it. The stories he would tell. I don't begrudge any union member what ever action they take and I refuse to cross a line. Sometime you have to hit folks upside the head with a 2x4 to get their attention. These trucks will not and cannot be inspected as fully as they need to be. I can see accidents, major drug busts and some new biological pest introduced into the US. And I can see drivers waged being further eroded. Yes, NAFTA was a good deal.:sarcasm:
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:14 AM
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22. I agree with you.
It seems nobody wants to be inconvenienced in any way. They squawk and complain but don't want to make any sacrifices. In this case being restricted to the speed limit is just too much to ask. Good grief, it's no wonder things are as bad as they are in this country.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 08:41 AM
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23. Labor Showing Spine?

The "organizers of the event" apparently consists of a website pushing Tom Tancredo for president.

Of course, whomever concocted this press-release non-event has utterly no familiarity with normal traffic on 495.


Show your support and pull off the road and have a leisurely cup of coffee.


Yeah... it's not as if you wanted your ambulance to get you anywhere you needed to go. The emergency room can wait.



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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 09:34 AM
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25. That is a red herring argument.....
I have seen labour actions...even at hospitals, and these emergencies take precedence. I have know a Nurse on the picket line leave the line (with her colleagues blessing)when a patient whose care she managed came through.

Our ambulance have little problems getting to the hospital and I know Houston has a bit more traffic than DC as I have been in both. Your argument has no weight and is straight from the union busting playbook.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 07:10 PM
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31. i know!
threatening to drive the speed limit on the Beltway at rushhour! good luck with that.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:15 AM
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26. Kind of like how the Teamsters support organized labor in Houston
where they built their new Teamster Hall with Scab Lobor. They said Unionized Labor was too expensive. I will never support the Teamsters again for anything. They have decided to support the GOP and that tells us all we need to know..
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:07 AM
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2. Anyone should be so lucky as to be able to drive at the speed limit on the Beltway.
It used to be horrible just on weekday rush hours. Then the rush hours expanded so that it's even damned slow all day, with the 5 mph creeping during prime rush hour. Even weekends were pretty awful - Sunday nights were as bad as weekday rush hours. So if the officials are saying that the protest "might slow traffic", implying slower than usual, we're looking at 5-10 mph.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:08 AM
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3. I wholeheartedly support this action.
From my understanding, the trucks coming from Mexico have NO E.P.A. standards to meet. There are no safety standards. The Mexican trucking companies are not required to pay their truckers even a minimum wage. Once again, American workers are being undermined.

Truckers, I support your action.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:13 AM
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5. I Support Their Action, as Well. n/t
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:17 AM
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7. I support their cause, but don't understand this kind of "action."
It gets attention, but it's the wrong attention from the wrong people. It's publicity from pissing people off. Why not a protest that more directly impacts those who can make a difference?
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:27 AM
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13. Then maybe those of us that support labour...
should speak up and support these folks. Do a slow down yourself in support. Don't gripe, applaud! Labour has been sticking their neck out for the working man for years. We wouldn't have the benefits we do today if they hadn't. Our fathers and grandfather's faced down armed company men that would kill you just as soon as look at you. So what if you get into work a bit late....Honk to support them-give them a thumbs up.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:11 AM
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4. As someone who commutes to Washington DC from Maryland
at least as far as the closest metro station, I doubt that anyone on the Beltway would be able to tell the difference in a traffic jam caused by these trucks and the usual, normal traffic jams.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:19 AM
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9. I drive one way off rush-hour, and the other way in rush hour
and there are variations in speed that make a difference. A 40 mph drive is very different than a stop-and-go one, in the time it takes and the frustration of the drivers.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 09:46 AM
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17. I agree. Trucks in every lane driving the speed limit might actually help the situation, because
they would stop the aggressive lane dodgers who cause many of the accidents - which really tie up the beltway.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:37 PM
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29. Hahahha -- I was going to write this!
Hey, they may actually keep traffic MOVING for a change.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:18 AM
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8. An inconvenience now will be well worth it
if the truckers convince the bushes not to allow Mexican truckers to haul freight in the US. You think a tie up on the DC beltway is bad? Wait until you see the tie ups from accidents caused by unsafe trucks and drivers. Wait until you see the pollution from trucks failing to pass minimal US pollution standards. Wait until you see millions of US truckers out of a job and on Welfare. Wait until you see the final throws of the American Unions. There is a lot worse in store for Americans when US truck drivers lose their jobs to Mexican drivers.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:19 AM
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11. How will this convince BushCo to do anything? nt
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 07:19 PM
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32. you do know, right
that Mexican trucks are actually subject to the same safety inspections and licensing requirements as US truks, right? Why is it, you think, that you suppose a Mexican driving the same truck as an American is more dangerous? and you know that the rule is that the trucks can haul freight from Mexico to the US, and not from US destination to US destination? and that it opens the Mexican roads to US trucks doing the same thing?

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:19 AM
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10. Driving the speed limit. How sad
How sad, that is, that driving the legal maximum speed limit should be considered a protest that will "hobble" the freeway. Crimeny, that is why I gave up driving, the (long string of very bad words) drivers who feel that the speed limit is a mandatory minimum.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:34 AM
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14. I had thought they
were going to surround the capital and park. :shrug:

I support their efforts whatever they do - wish I could show it in some way.
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Bentcorner Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 08:34 AM
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15. I'll believe truckers can obey speed limits when I see it.
Edited on Tue Apr-24-07 08:34 AM by Bentcorner
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 11:10 PM
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21. How much press have you seen on TV or newspapers about this issue?
They're getting publicity. That's the point. You think the media is reporting about serious issues like this? yeah right.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 08:49 AM
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24. Goodness me, sakes alive, we got ourselves a Convoy
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:28 PM
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27. Go truckers!!!
:woohoo:

Oh, and a pox on the selfish, self-centered posters criticizing this protest.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:32 PM
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28. North American Union
This is well worth the couple of minutes it takes to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Xs8bposCc
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:41 PM
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30. Solidarity!
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