Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win

Source: politico.com

Giuliani warns of 'new 9/11' if Dems win
By: Roger Simon
April 24, 2007 09:07 PM EST

MANCHESTER, N.H. - - Rudy Giuliani said if a Democrat is elected president in 2008, America will be at risk for another terrorist attack on the scale of Sept. 11, 2001.

But if a Republican is elected, he said, especially if it is him, terrorist attacks can be anticipated and stopped.

“If any Republican is elected president - - and I think obviously I would be the best at this - - we will remain on offense and will anticipate what (the terrorists) will do and try to stop them before they do it,” Giuliani said.

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“But the question is how long will it take and how many casualties will we have?” Giuliani said. “If we are on defense (with a Democratic president,) we will have more losses and it will go on longer.”

“I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense,” Giuliani continued. “We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.”

He added: “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”

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Gotta keep reminding people of that photo-op? :grr:

The "strong leader" who put the disaster coordination center in a targeted building.
:eyes:

As my kid would say -- Rudy got BURNED! :rofl:

they are mad?

There's got to be a way to use this kind of shit against them in a commercial.

oh yeah--"what about the radios Rudy?" huh, what about that?

One hopes he's the candidate because jeez, he'd just be so easy -- and satisfying -- to beat.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/2880185

And welcome to the DU :wave:

I agree with your assessment, why do we need him???

he truly has, Cheney tried this tired old line in the fall and it got him nowhere, I wonder if Guiliani has a "fear of success", I mean, there's no reasonable logic behind Guiliani winning, except he is a name brand, and that's why McCain came out swinging at him today,

Look watching the 911 hearings, I heard Lehman say to the fire commissioner and the police commissioner that "boy scouts could have done a better job in preparing for a disaster like 911"

Really? so that means someone had a "plan" to handle a disaster like this, only they didn't fill in Rudy?

everything these guys say these days is an indictment and a roadmap to their incompetency.

I used to post on Slate, can't deal with the editors anymore, they flush too much.

Regards
Pace

Shouldn't this be illegal? Nothing about what he said is covered by free speech.

Right, as if the Republicans did such a great job preventing 9/11 by simply allowing or making it happen. What an asshole.

Who was in power when 9/11 happened?

Just another example of GOP "logic."

Jeebus, can't they find any original talking points anymore?

anything else in your platform.....

Sad, Sad pathetic man...

I mean really, you'd think the Rethugs would be sick of this same old tired songbook.

It had to be the Democrats, right? RIGHT?

and she got promoted cause she did such a HECKAVA JOB advising on 9/11..real alert and awake..not snoozing or ignoring the warning signs AT ALL!

Were the people in this administration. The Democrats were the ones who recognized terrorism as a threat. But once Bush got in the White House, they shelved or impeded all efforts to prevent any terrorist attacks.

are you threatening the American voter?

I mean, listen to what he's saying? He's saying IF you don't elect a repuke as president, there WILL be another terror attack.

threatening and fearmonger..they aren't smart ..they'll all missing some very important brain cells.

:patriot:

I mean other than the obvious?

It's because when I think of the good will I extended this asshat back in 2001 AND have to read these ever cheapening remarks he keeps on making, it shames me and makes my blood pressure go up.

Vile. Moderate for a puke? I 'spose it can be argued. But a vile little man nonetheless.

Cheney must be coaching him already!

so it reveals his bald nob, which Bush will then want to fondle.

http://satirium.com/pages/vol6/bushphotos.html

Thanks, Rudy. You're making it abundantly clear that, like any organized crime syndicate, what the GOP has to offer is a protection racket.

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I like your analogy there.

That's exactly what it is: "Elect us or else you'll regret it. We'll make sure of that."

If Al Gore would have been in his rightful seat in the Oval Office.. the first fucking 9/11 wouldn't not have taken place..and you fucking know that rudy.. you little, pandering piece of fascist shit.

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*jump*

again?

:grr: Any respect I *might* have had for Giuliani went right out the window with that statement. :puke: Just...disgusting.

Repukes are just going to have to update the old playbook.

fuckheads to knock off that "the terrorists will get ya shit" if we don't want to become immersed in that kind of assholery for the next year an a half. What horseshit already. Dumbfucks.

Vote Republican...or else. Curious message these Republicans have going. It wouldn't have anything to do with their criminal behaviour over the past 7 years or so, would it?

I just wish there had been air samplers at ground zero to detect explosive residue, but then, the EPA told us the air was fine. Were they hiding something?

nothing else to run on..unless his base love cross dressers?

Um, like the Iraq war?

Thanks for playing, Rudy.
HAND.

in a cave learning how to say Ghouliani, for video tapes to be released at the most opportune time?

:eyes:

Not a Dem's watch. A Repub's watch. And I have no idea why the Dems don't have that as a their mantra. Really. None.

Who exactly was in the WH on 9/11/01? Who read "The Pet Goat" when our country was under attack? Who ignored Osama bin Ladin in Afghanastan to mire us in a losing war in Iraq because his neocon handlers told him to?

And you're right...Dems should adopt this and say it over, and over, and over again. EVERY SINGLE TIME someone says they're soft on terror. And even every time some empty dimwit like Maureen Dowd calls hem the "Mommy Party." This is war. We have the facts. Let's fight it.

I mean honestly why do people like Ghouliani and Cheney who say crap like this never have to defend real terrorist attacks happening under their watch while they blame Democrats for some future attack that has not even happened?

and inappropriate and horrible it would be for a DEM to say it...

Strange how SILENT all the repuke nazi harpies are, isn't it!

NOT on a Democratic watch. Fear-mongering freak.

security of our nation, just look what happened on 9/11 ON THEIR WATCH.

By projecting a near-certain tragedy if Democrats win is tantamount to peddling snake oil. He seems to lack the basic understanding of what "democracy" means.

This one is the same as all the others.

the base with his "All WOT, All the Time" programming. Gotta get in on that action! Expect the other nincompoops to do the same.

shamless...

we'd have another one if we continue with the REPUKES! They've already PROVEN that they are incompetant - don't forget:

If it DID happen on a Dems watch, we'd at least be EQUAL in that regard...

But so far, it HASN'T HAPPEND ON A DEMS WATCH - it's ALREADY happened to the FAILURE of the CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT REPUKES...

he just issued a blatant terrorist threat to the American people who vote.

I read it as Ghouliaknee just broke at least one post-911 law in that statement.

But, hey, he is the pretender for the repuke mafia so, he can threaten whoever he wants without being held accountable by any justice officer...

From the Gore Commission's recommendations, to the Hart-Rudman Commission's suggestions, to Clinton's attempts to bomb, arrest, kidnap, or just plain old shoot UBL, to Sandy Berger's warnings to Rice that UBL was her biggest threat... All across the board the Republicans, before and after Bush, shot down every attempt the Dems made to stop al-Qaeda. Everything Bush did after 9-11 to prevent another attack was attempted by Clinton and Gore but shot down by the Republicans in pure partisan votes before 9-11.

Giuliani's party's negligence is responsible for 9-11, even more than UBL is.

and i thought when i moved away from the NY Metro area that i wouldn't have to deal with his stupid ass anymore. crap.

Some Merkans are stupid enough to believe this jerkoff, too.

I'm just surprised John McLame didn't come up with this first.

ON YOUR WATCH RUDY!

ON YOUR WATCH GEORGE!

ON YOUR WATCH REPUBLICAN CONGRESS!

Rudy Giuliani--fucking idiot.

Maybe he can squeeze-in yet another marriage before Primary Season '08.

:puke: :argh: :puke:

Emergency Command Center in the complex that had already been attacked by terrorists. Great anticipation, Rudy. Now run along home, one of your wives is calling you.

Originally posted at Liberal Values--see original post for multiple links

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1443

Rudy Giuliani Claims New 9/11 Attack if Democrats Win

Some believe that John McCain lost his reputation (never really deserved) as a straight talker and moderate when he became too closely associated with George Bush’s policies on Iraq. If voters no longer like McCain, they should not be too happy with Rudy Giuliani. Politico quotes Giuliani as sounding as out of touch with reality as Bush and Cheney on terrorism and the war.

Giuliani claims that there will be a new 9/11 attack if the Democrats take over as, “The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.” That’s strange considering that it was the Democrats who supported action against terrorism before 9/11 and the Republicans who opposed it.

Bill Clinton attempted action against al Qaeda, while the Republican Congress blocked him. The Clinton administration passed on the warnings about al Qaeda, with recommendations for fighting them, but the Bush administration ignored them, and Rice was even was caught lying about receiving the plans. Bush ignored many other warnings and recommendations to take action, including the August 6, 2001 daily presidential briefing warning of “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.” When the attacks came, Bush was unable to act, with former Bush supporter Lee Iacocca saying he “was paralyzed” afterwards.

Even after Bush overcame his paralysis he responded to the attack inappropriately, including attacking the wrong country and allowing bin Laden to escape at Tora Bora. While the Iraq war has led to increased recruitment for al Qaeda and radicalization of moderate Muslims, placing us at greater risk, Giuliani supports George Bush’s decision to attack the wrong country.

Giuliani, once again proving he is no libertarian, complains that if the Democrats are elected, “We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense.” Moving beyond the fact that our pre-Sept. 11 “attitude of defense” was inadequate due to the failure of Republicans to take the threat seriously, Giuliani’s statement is ironic in light of another statement he made. Giuliani echoed Bush in claiming the terrorists “hate us for the freedoms we have and the freedoms we want to share with the world.”

This is a simplistic explanation, and a commander in chief who shows this little understanding of terrorism could not be expected to be able to take actions to diffuse the threat and prevent future attacks. Such an attitude will only result in a perpetual state of warfare, which I suspect is what the Republicans really want as long as they believe they gain politically. Even if we accept the Bush/Giuliani logic that the terrorists “hate us for the freedoms,” it hardly makes sense to respond by limiting freedom at home as Giuliani advocates.

We'll let you do ANYTHING to eliminate an infinitesimally small cause of death to Americans! Even if it means killing even MORE Americans, Iraqis, Afghans, Iranians, etc. than you would save. And we're so glad you don't support universal healthcare-- what a waste of money!

If the best defense the Republics have is "Elect me or terrorists win" then these guys have no right to be involved in politics, period.

would put his command center at the world trade center truly has shit for brains!

..He doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about....He doesnt have a chance anyway, because a DEM is going to have the Hill. there isnt a rethug around that has a chance at all, their all Nazi bastards.

He sure sounds like he is taking credit for the original 9/11/01 event and threatening to repeat his diabolically evil, deadly activities if he (or one of his fellow perpetrators) is not elected president in 2008. Torture him at Gitmo until he talks.

He should stick to cross-dressing and cheating on his wife, he is adroit in those areas, totally useless otherwise.

Keep it up, Rudy!

'Cause I don't take well to my wannabe leaders threatening me. It makes me not want to vote for them and stuff.
Ha.
What a tool.

This is a winning gameplan Rudy has going. If he gets the nomination, it's curtains.

See: VALUES, circa 2004.

A republic president that was told numerous times that Al quida was determined to strike in the US. I think there was s PDB regarding this topic. Took it so serious that he stayed on vacation. Rudy, you were the mayor of NYC on that day. You Rudy, sat on a commission for Pres. Nixon about terrorism, in response to the Munich games incident. And that little group you were in determined that airplanes could be used as weapons. Did you learn nothing from your own research you buffoon. You Rudy screwed up the communications system of first responders and as a result many FDNY and NYPD died on that day. They despise you for a reason Rudy!!!

... and helping Bernie Kerik cheat on HIS wives and buddy up to organized crime figures?

Oh, and making money off the terror fears you've instilled in the public with your "consulting business."

Hey Rudy ... you have a run in your stocking!

Gee, how quickly the MFing rightwingnuttery forget.

of staged disasters and killings

Americans aren't afraid anymore

Bush - "FORE!!!"
Time to hit the links!! Woo hoo!!

What a liar.

Yes, there have been terrorists attacks against us and our interests since 9/11 (domestically and US interests abroad). Anthrax, anybody (oh, but that was generated from the the administration to ratchet up the hysteria, so I guess that doesn't count)? The trouble in Saudi Arabia in 2004 in which millitants seized the US embassy? What about the oil pipeline bombings that occur every day in Iraq? I don't know about you, but I consider that an attack against our interests? This guy is utterly and completely full of shit.

Campaigning against him will be the most unifying force in the country before the election.

that when 9-11 happened there was a Republican mayor of NYC, a Republican governor of NY and a Republican president, but somehow DEMOCRATS are going to let the next 9-11 happen :eyes:

Rudy,its seem to me that people think you are full of new york shit.

Wotta thug!

what fuckn radio jock got into his shorts?

The ideology of the neo-cons has made us weaker and more vulnerable, not stronger and safer. The neo-conservatioves have endangered us all and even still conspire to condemn us to their cursed far right wing militaristic reality. Enough is enough. We can not sustain the "offensive" that Rudy speaks of. If we must suffer another 9-11 than we'll just have to suffer it but let us not be mistaken about which political party led us to it. Hopefully a more competent adminsitration will be at the helm to handle it the next time. Hopefully the next adminsitration won't declare the wrong war on the wrong country at the wrong time in response. Hopefully the next administration won't declare mission accomplished before the battle has even begun. Hopefully the next administration won't put political and business interests before national interests. Hopefully the next administration won't squander hundreds of billions of dollars and, worse yet, the lives of thousands of US soldiers on a failed and pointless mission. You and your kind have failed miserably Rudy and America languishes because of it, so now kindly dispense with your hyperbole and step aside before we have to get really ugly with you.

Since he helped create the first 9/11 in collusion with the Bushitler Mob.