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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 10:50 PM
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Walmart Pulls Contaminated Frozen Catfish From China
Source: CBS4

A catfish scare in Alabama has prompted Walmart stores to voluntarily pull some of its frozen catfish products.

The move comes after recent findings in Alabama that some Chinese Catfish contained an FDA banned antibiotic called fluoroquinolones.

In addition to Walmart stores, the State of Alabama has also ordered frozen catfish products off the market.

In Florida, state food safety officials are closely monitoring Alabama's' investigation, and are trying to learn from the FDA how many of the tainted catfish products were currently available statewide.

Fluoroquinolone was reportedly banned by the FDA in 1997, but Florida food safety experts officials told CBS-4's Al Sunshine that it is not an imminent threat to public health and it's more of an issue of keeping unneeded antibiotics out of the human food supply.

Wal-Mart officials say they that while working closely with their suppliers and the FDA, they became aware earlier in the week of a potential issue with a one of their 4 oz. frozen catfish filets.

The store immediately sent out word to all of their locations nationwide to remove the product from stores.

Read more: http://consumerist.com/consumer/food-supply/walmart-pulls-contaminated-frozen-catfish-from-china-256123.php



so much nasty crap being shipped over here.

careful what you ingest folks! and where you shop...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 10:51 PM
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1. why is Wal-mart or anybody else importing catfish?
we have plenty of it already don't we?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. yes the US has lots of catfish
shoals
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. Yes, we have catfish.
What the hell? Is our trade imbalance not big enough? Why are we allowing imported catfish? This is just stupid.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:20 PM
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23. Maybe their mucky tasting catfish is better than our mucky tasting catfish.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 08:04 PM
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72. Their catfish is cheaper that's what it is! Supermarket buy the cheapest on the world wide market
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 08:05 PM by demo dutch
produce etc., because that where they make the most money
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:36 PM
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42. I was told by the owner of a catfish restaurant on another forum
that Chinese catfish is cheaper than American catfish. He uses only American farm-raised catfish in his restaurant but was worried about its long-term availability.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 04:05 PM
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22. That was what I wondered as well. There are even catfish farms
in the US, mostly down south I believe. :shrug:



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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #22
41. when i lived in Texas we actually used to fish for catfish and usually caught many
within 2 or 3 hours.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
31. It must be really cheap to import.
That's how Walmart undercuts everyone else with their "rollback" pricing.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 09:45 PM
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49. Corporate Greed...
That's about it.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 10:53 PM
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2. What else does Wal-Mart sell that is contaminated?
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:28 PM
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26. well last year my Mom had to return a watering hose tap made in China of lead from walmart
It had warnings in small print about the lead on it's tag that said it was in China for walmart. Like anyone sane wants to water their veggies with a lead tap or even handle it!
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #26
36. I just bought a hose pipe nozzle from Lowe's that said "wash hands after handling!"
I didn't see the warning until I got it home. It said "this product contains lead and substances known to cause cancer and damage to reproductive health. Wash hands after handling." Needless to say, I'm taking it back for a refund.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. Did you know that it is legal for LEAD to be in kids lunchboxes too? Made in China of course
This one sure fire way to keep the masses too weak to fight back - lower their iqs:


How Gov't Decided Lunch Box Lead Levels
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/18/AR2007021800528.html
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #38
45. Thanks for that link!
I knew I'd heard something about how China got different standards for production of goods than American (or most other) manufacturers get. Not only is it unsafe, how on earth can US companies compete when they have to follow a different standard?

See my post below about Melissa and Doug. I do EVERYTHING I can to avoid buying Chinese made crap.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #45
48. yep different manufactuering standards, safety and labor standards for workers, etc.
environmental standards, human rights standards - any one of these reasons is enough for me to avoid their stuff as much as possible. I try not to enrich people who profit from the pain and suffering of others even if it is only a few cents on the dollar.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #38
59. I'm pretty disgusted with all of this
Free-marketeers claim that American jobs are going overseas because they can't compete. Well, yeah-- it's not a fair competition! The overseas suppliers have few or no regulations that ensure they put out a good, safe product while paying adequate wages. This is a totally artificial situation, not a natural outcome of competition.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. Newt (contract-on-America) said in the early 90s that we couldn't
restrict our carbon emissions when China and India wouldn't agree to the treaty because we would LOSE OUR MANUFACTURING!!

Well, we got the worst of both worlds (but there is really only one earth). I'm breathing the pollution that flows over from Chinese coal plants right now, in addition to the auto pollution all around me.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #59
67. America can't compete against countries with little to no safety, labor, environmental regs.
Countries that don't require a living wage, allow workers to be exposed to toxic chemicals with little to no protection, use child labor, don't have pollution standards so they disposed of toxic pollutants properly, and so on. That is a lot of money saved on each of those. A unionized workforce can't compete with a sweatshop.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #38
73. When I worked for CVS, the store carried cups, dishes,
bowls, etc., made in China that had tags attached that said that the glaze and designs on the dishes contained lead. I would point it out to every one that brought the tableware up to be rung. Apparently people don't read the tags on the items because they were all surprised to see what it said. None of them bought the items. How is it possible to sell them here? Lead is a dangerous poison, especially to children. I never got an answer to that.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #73
74. They are letting it in dishes too now? And people worry about TV/Video games etc dumb down kids
give 'em the lead lunch box to take to school and feed 'em off the lead plates at home then send them to play with the lead water sprinkler.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:03 PM
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3. China owns our debt
This globalist administration could care less if the products aren't safe. They want the profits and heck with the "relatively few" who may die.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #3
25. Yes China is only second to Japan - link
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:05 PM
Response to Original message
4. This Chinese crap
is getting old! Outsourcing is good for America my ass!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:05 PM
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5. can we PLEASE stop importing f***ing CRAP from China?
:puke:
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Wilson 1911A1 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
24. Everyone should do everything they can
to avoid buying anything chinese as well as try and convince others that buying their crap is a bad idea.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. Try finding things NOT made in China
I just purchases a cool new product designed by some engineering students form Oregon State. Every indication was that this little deal (called a wavy wand) was locally produced at this little start up company.

Wrong. While it works even better than advertised, there's a bloody made in China sticker on it.

Yet another thing we can thank the far right and their enablers in the Democratic party for....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #28
33. oh, you know it depakid
I do look for things made in the USA but it is hard, very hard to find
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #24
43. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #24
52. That's getting harder and harder to do
I always make the attempt though. American products are typically higher quality and are generally worth the premium IMO.
Nice username BTW speaking of quality American manufacturing.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:22 PM
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7. Once again companies like Wal-Mart will lay the blame on their
...suppliers from China, but in reality it is the specifications which Wal-Mart and others demanded from these supplier companies to meet production quotas that are the real source of the problem. Wal-Mart knew such FDA banned antibiotics like fluoroquinolones were banned here in the U.S. but allowed them to be used by looking the other way, then importing the product and selling them to U.S. consumers based on caveat emptor<1>.

<1> Caveat emptor: A Latin term meaning "let the buyer beware."

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:24 PM
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9. I just want to throw my hands up at this BS
Unfreakingbeliveable
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:24 PM
Response to Original message
10. And the Shrub is worried about Canadian pharmaceuticals?
How about all this shit we're importing from China? First, we're killing our pets, now it's ourselves! This must stop!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:33 PM
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11. Catfish from China? In Alabama? The State next door to Mississippi?
Edited on Sat Apr-28-07 11:39 PM by loindelrio
unfuckingbelieveable

on edit:Mississippi ranks first in total U.S. catfish production contributing more than 75% of all catfish consumed in the nation.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #11
17. Alabama produces catfish too
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #11
37. I'd bet that Alabama ranks second only to MS in catfish production.
LOTS of catfish farms in AL.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 11:34 PM
Response to Original message
12. Ban all Chinese food imports
for starters.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
27. There would be NOTHING left
on your grocery shelves. Think about it. :think:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Haha! I've been saying this for twenty years.
Boycott China. Oh, wait.

Every screw, nut, bolt, electronics, bicycle parts...just about everything.

It makes us dependent. How stupid is that.

It is nice to see someone else who really sees it.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 12:04 AM
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13. No one should be shopping at Wal Mart, anyway
They would rather waste the energy to import catfish for God's sake half way around the world to save a few pennies rather than support local industry.

The irony is that the energy crunch will in the end get them because it will be too expensive to import long distances and companies like Trader Joe's who buy locally for most of their stuff will be the winners.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 12:35 AM
Response to Original message
14. Walmart sells poisoned food from china now.
What do they care?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 12:39 AM
Response to Original message
15. Lately, I have become more afraid of shopping in my grocery store
than I am of terrorist attack.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 12:53 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. More Double Speak
CFIA on border lookout for plastics chemical that could enter food chain
Last Updated: Friday, April 27, 2007 | 11:28 PM ET
CBC News

Canada's food inspectors have issued border lookouts for vegetable proteins coming from China to prevent melamine — a chemical used to make plastics — from contaminating the human food chain, CBC News has learned.

Inspectors will seize wheat gluten, soy proteins, corn glutens and rice proteins from China — ingredients already found to contain melamine and other contaminants in hundreds of pet-food products. The proteins are destined for human food.

It says that last July, the same Chinese company that supplied melamine-contaminated wheat gluten for pet food also shipped wheat gluten to a British Columbia feed mill, which turned it into food for fish farms that has since been consumed by people.

But the CFIA said it believes the risk to people is low, even if the fish had been contaminated.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/04/27/melamine-cfia.html

What the article fails to mention is that the additive was classified as fit for human consumption, or some similar terminology.

I believe that the FDA is now taking similar steps.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. You should be
I just posted on Chinese food a few days ago. 15% of the food at the Seattle port was rejected. Shrimp is what I noted that we buy, and decided to stop buying it. I can't friggin' believe this. They really do not care whether people die.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #15
62. Do you have a local farmer's market?
Also, write your representative and ask for labeling that reveals country of origin (something that we can't know now). As for pet food, ask that the actual contents be given. Pet food that is heavily advertised might contain rendered euthanized pets from "shelters," road kill, sick cattle, and worse than Chinese-contaminated wheat gluten.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 03:09 AM
Response to Original message
19. The South African pet food recall involved a company
mainly producing feed for fish for human consumption such as catfish...

SA imported the contaminated ingredients from China...

I'm saying we need a global consumer advocacy group.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 10:49 AM
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20. and so why I am I laughing?
Because the other day I made a remark, "He's so dumb he'd eat catfish imported from China."

And now this!!

At our house, my husband, who works extensively with imported food (from Italy and France), won't even allow catfish from the U.S. to be served. He said it's because catfish is a bottom-feeder.

I know we often typify freepers as bottom feeders but the fact is, there are real bottom feeders and catfish are among them.



Cher

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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 03:57 PM
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21. Some? How big of them! n/t
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 05:43 PM
Response to Original message
30. Pet Food Recall has spread to Alpo
Some of the few brands of pet foods that has not seen much recalls haves Alpo and Purina. Purina bought Alpo a number of years ago. However, now several Alpo brands have been recalled.

I think the Dems really need to take leadership on the food inspection issue. It will be politically popular, esp. considering such a large percentage of the US population has dogs and cats.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 06:14 PM
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32. Catfish is a filthy "bottom feeder"
sucking and filtering whatever muck is trapped in the mud.

I can't immagine China having a problem with water quality....... being a developing country and all.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
65. So are lobster and crabs. n/t
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 06:50 PM
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34. Are there NOT enough catfish farms in the Southeastern US....
Edited on Sun Apr-29-07 06:58 PM by ingac70
Catfish from China? I can't drive 10 miles without passing a catfish restaurant out where I live, where the serve LOCALLY farm raised fish.

http://www.keepantibioticsworking.org/new/indepth_fluoro.cfm
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 06:51 PM
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35. Melissa and Doug toys from China
Sorry for the hijack, but I'm not sure anything from China has to follow federal standards that US manufacturers have to follow:

I was concerned about 2 years ago hearing that China does not have to follow the same product safety requirements we do thanks to loopholes in our laws (partially from pressure from Wal-Mart).

My sister wanted wooden toys for her daughter for Xmas. I noted that all Melissa and Doug toys are made in China. So called them to ask. They kept repeating the mantra, "we meet all US regulations". When I stated the regulations were different for things imported into this country from China, I got the same response. I finally asked point blank if they use lead paint, PVC, or urethanes on their toys. I continued to get the same response about meeting US federal standards, but she would not answer my question.

I will not buy Melissa and Doug products after this phone call.

I really should take one of those lead stick testers to something of theirs and see what the results are.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
39. I'm officially not putting ANYTHING into my body anymore that
comes from China, unless it's completely unavoidable.

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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #39
51. The thing is, there is NO way for you to know what country(ies) the ingredients in your food come
from.
There is wheat gluten in all major brands of store-bought bread.
No way to know where your meat comes from, and most produce is not labeled.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #51
58. I don't buy much bread. I bake my own, and wheat gluten isn't on the
ingredients list. I often grind my own wheat into whole wheat flour. Organic grains are available. There are online sources for organic hard red and soft white wheat grown in the US, typically MT (maybe on that Senator's farm, lol?).

I eat little meat. In the future that's all coming from Whole Foods, so I know the source. There are online sources for grass-fed beef and lamb and bison. There is an egg and chicken guy at my farmer's market.

Everybody else can eat the grocery store processed crap. Not me.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. I've been considering the merits of revving up the ol' breadmaker around here -
since it seems so hard to avoid wheat gluten in the store-bought crap.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #61
66. I've got a breadmaker, too. It's called "Dos Manos".
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. Heh - I know what you mean, and thought of that. Bread IS better made by hand,
but electric breadmakers do a pretty good job. Between homeschooling two teenagers, driving them to all their activities, volunteering for the library, softball tournaments and/or swim meets most weekends, time is at a premium around here. Plus I'm not a very efficient person, and like to spend a little free time hanging around DU. I feel like a squirrel on a treadmill most of the time - ACK!

Hmmm - maybe I could get one of my daughters hooked on the joys of making bread...

And I need to get my garden going - so at least SOME of the produce we eat around here will be safe.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:32 PM
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40. WHO shops at walmart? WHY are we outsourcing catfish?
i guess when you buy the cheapest, from a country that does NOT have our health/food standards... you get what you pay for.

what is the difference between a catfish and Gonzalas?
one is a filthy crap eating bottom feeder... and the other is a fish.

i NEVER shop at walmart... it is NOT that difficult to do... if you wait a week, everyone has close to the same prices... and you will be able to buy the better brands when your children GET REAL JOBS THAT DON'T INVOLVE THAT STORE

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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. Hahahah!!!
Love that joke!

Welcome to DU!:hippie:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. Well, a couple of things, NOT that I support importing catfish...
yes they are "bottom feeders" which isn't intrinsically a bad thing. We catch catfish from the lake we live on and it's fine. The bottom isn't necessarily any dirtier than any other place and we don't eat the parts the mud passes through.
We don't refuse to eat a hamburger because the cow has an intestine full of shit, after all. ;-)

As to Walmart...not everyone has a financially rational choice - the WM "supercenter" is the only grocery store in the county where I live. I could drive 40 miles to shop at a different store but that would be kinda dumb.
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Speedracer Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #46
75. US Farm-Raised Catfish
US Farm-Raised catfish are not bottom feeders.  The feed we
use to feed our fish is formulated to float.  Therefore the
Farm-Raised catfish feeds on top of the water.  
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 09:03 PM
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47. WTF? Why is Walmart purchasing Catfish from China?
?????????????
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 09:48 PM
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50. Greed, greed, greed and greed.
That's about it.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:29 PM
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53. It won't be long until Chinese fish is more poisonous than American fish
due to the weak envioronmental protection policies in China, one of the key selling points for people who move their businesses over there.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:37 AM
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56. China is heavily polluted... If you saw the water, you wouldn't
eat any seafood product from there...
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:46 PM
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63. and the air is polluted like a bad sci-fi movie...
unfortunately, 25 percent of the smog over L.A. is imported from China according to the E.P.A.

Chinese farmers are being forced off land that is being paved with factories. The country can't even feed itself anymore and has to import soy from the Brazilian rain forest.

Do yourself and the world's environment a favor. Buy only what you need, and buy items made as close to home as possible.

Does China make airplane parts?
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bedazzled Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 11:35 PM
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54. they have frozen tilapia from china at our local albertson's
wouldn't feed the filthy stuff by my DOG. albertson's has really
gone downhill, too. pretty soon florida consumers will only have one
supermarket -- publix. what a disaster!
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 12:16 AM
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55. I bought some tilapia
In a frozen bag.....I don't even want to see where it's from.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 11:53 AM
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60. No offense intended, but that's exactly the problem.
When people don't care to know or worse, even FEAR to know where their food comes from, their food choice decisions are made on the basis of price or maybe quality (though many aspects of quality, like presence of adulterants, can't be ascertained by the average consumer), and we end up with massive importation from largely unregulated food producers.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 05:44 PM
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68. Medline on Tilpaia from China - PCBs, Heavy Metals - 1 fish had 8 times safe level Pb
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16287644&dopt=Abstract

Tilapia purchased from the markets (with fish supplied from the mainland) showed higher concentrations of DDTs and PAHs than those collected from Hong Kong fishponds, confirmed that the fishponds in the mainland are more polluted due to the rapid socioeconomic growth in the region during the past 20 years. The tilapia were heavily polluted by Pb, with the highest level (3519 ng g-1 wet wt.) exceeded the EUROPA guideline (400 ng g-1 wet wt.) 8 times, and Cr with 36% of the samples exceeded the China guideline of 500 ng g-1 wet wt. for human consumption

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:19 AM
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57. I buy our fish fresh from Hannafords - a company based in Maine.
A few weeks ago they had some humungous scallops from Russia and everyone was laughing about "Chernobyl" scallops. This is not funny at all. Emailing the main office.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:11 PM
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70. When you sit down to eat
you want to feel good about what you're eating. Duh. It's so basic.

It looks like that's not possible now. Food becomes just another worry in a sea of worries.

SO WHY DO WE NOW HAVE TO RESEARCH EVERY SINGLE &*@#%@#&*!F/ing $^&^%$# THING WE PUT IN OUR MOUTHS!!!!????

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

(excuse me I'm not usually so worked up but on top of everything else, this realization is a real cause for deep resentment)

Consumers--we pigs at the end of the trough--we have to speak against this outrageous profiteering with our wallets while there are still some better choices and adjustments we can make. These people controlling the American food supply need to get a real strong message!
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 07:58 PM
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71. One more reason NEVER to buy imported foods, maybe only from Europe where laws are strict!
Edited on Mon Apr-30-07 08:03 PM by demo dutch
Only buy local produce and only produce in season. Organically raised live stock, chicken, eggs, milk etc. and fish caught within the US. Even then who knows!
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