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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:18 AM
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Assessments Made in 2003 Foretold Situation in Iraq
Edited on Sun May-20-07 03:20 AM by maddezmom
Source: Washington Post

Intelligence Studies List Internal Violence, Terrorist Activity

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 20, 2007; Page A06

Two intelligence assessments from January 2003 predicted that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and subsequent U.S. occupation of Iraq could lead to internal violence and provide a boost to Islamic extremists and terrorists in the region, according to congressional sources and former intelligence officials familiar with the prewar studies.

The two assessments, titled "Principal Challenges in Post-Saddam Iraq" and "Regional Consequences of Regime Change in Iraq," were produced by the National Intelligence Council (NIC) and will be a major part of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence's long-awaited Phase II report on prewar intelligence assessments about Iraq. The assessments were delivered to the White House and to congressional intelligence committees before the war started.

The committee chairman, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), and the vice chairman, Sen. Christopher S. Bond (R-Mo.), announced earlier this month that the panel had asked Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell to declassify the report for public release. Congressional sources said the two NIC assessments are to be declassified and would be part of a portion of the Phase II report that could be released within the next week.

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The NIC assessments paint "a very sobering and, as it has turned out, mostly accurate picture of the aftermath of the invasion," according to a former senior intelligence officer familiar with the studies. He sought anonymity because he is not authorized to speak about still-classified assessments.

The former senior official said that after the NIC papers were distributed to senior government officials, he was told by one CIA briefer that a senior Defense Department official had said they were "too negative" and that the papers "did not see the possibilities" the removal of Hussein would present.

A member of the Senate committee, without disclosing the contents of the studies, said recently that the release will raise more questions about the Bush administration's lack of preparation for the war's aftermath.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/19/AR2007051900843.html
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:01 AM
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1. IMHO, that's exactly what the MIC & Big Oil's WH...
Wanted...

A constant record-profits-making "opportunity" in exchange for their permanent lie$ and M$M spin.

And they've been so successful at that too.

They don't care about "who" pays and will pay for decades.

They are confident they'll never be held accountable for any of their crimes, so why even hesitate to commit them?

They'll have all those years to spend "our" money...
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:15 AM
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2. K & R
:kick:
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:44 AM
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3. Nobody could have foreseen that the Iraqis wouldn't do what we wanted.
Amazing. In any place but Bush & Co., this would be unbelievable.

Bush & Co. were clearly told what could happen. They were warned
that invading Iraq could backfire against the national interest.
They ignored the warnings in favor of neocon fantasies of a Middle
East remade by conquest.

They didn't just misjudge the invasion. They were willfully and
totally blind to reality as they pressed ahead with no plan in
case the intelligence warnings were correct.

Bush & Co. didn't just blunder. They were (and still are) criminally
reckless with our troops, the Iraqi people, and the national interest.


Bush and Cheney probably won't be impeached for this, but they
so richly deserve to be.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:38 AM
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4. but..but...but... Shaha Riza was Wolfie's "inspiration"
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:46 AM
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5. Most the entire world predicted the current mess...as did these Republicans:
James Webb, former Sec. of Navy under Ronald Reagan, Decorated Marine Veteran:

"Do we really want to occupy Iraq for the next 30 years? …In Japan, American occupation forces quickly became 50,000 friends. In Iraq, they would quickly become 50,000 terrorist targets…. Nations such as China can only view the prospect of an American military consumed for the next generation by the turmoil of the Middle East as a glorious windfall."
http://www.sftt.org/article09302002a.html

Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former Head of Central Command for U.S.:

"It's pretty interesting that all the generals see it the same way, and all the others who have never fired a shot, and are hot to go to war, see it another…We are about to do something that will ignite a fuse in this region that we will rue the day we ever started."

Hawks in the Bush administration may be making deadly miscalculations on Iraq, says Gen. Anthony Zinni, Bush's Middle East envoy.

"I'm not sure which planet they live on"
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/10/17/zinni

General William Odom, former head of the National Security Agency:

"Right now, the course we're on, we're achieving Bin Laden's ends…. I've never seen it so bad between the office of the secretary of defense and the military. There's a significant majority believing this is a disaster. The two parties whose interests have been advanced have been the Iranians and al-Qaeda. Bin Laden could argue with some cogency that our going into Iraq was the equivalent of the Germans in Stalingrad. They defeated themselves by pouring more in there. Tragic."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091704Y.shtml

President GHW Bush, 1998;

"Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."

Brent Scowcroft, one of the Republican Party’s most respected foreign policy advisors, and national security adviser under President Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush:

"Don't Attack Saddam It would undermine our antiterror efforts. "Our pre-eminent security priority--underscored repeatedly by the president--is the war on terrorism. An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133

Republican Dissent on Iraq
Full page ad in Wall Street Journal by major GOP contributors:

"Mr. President, …The candidate we supported in 2000 promised a more humble nation in our dealings with the world. We gave him our votes and our campaign contributions. That candidate was you. We feel betrayed. We want our money back. We want our country back…. A Billion Bitter enemies will rise out of this war."
- Wall Street Journal, January 13, 2003
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/001444.html

Gee, who could have known. Other than over 85% of the entire planet who said HELL NO to joining bush's war of aggression.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:52 AM
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6. Intelligence Reports and Bush Administration - classic oxymoron...
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 09:54 AM
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7. So how does the NIC assess the way out ?
They should put out an article on how to fix our way out of Iraq. Have they published anything like that or sat dormant for 4 1/2 yrs ?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:06 PM
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8. k & r
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:29 PM
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9. Pat Roberts stalled this Phase II report for years as Chair!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:31 PM
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10. ......the release will raise more questions about the Bush administration's lack of preparation for



........The former senior official said that after the NIC papers were distributed to senior government officials, he was told by one CIA briefer that a senior Defense Department official had said they were "too negative" and that the papers "did not see the possibilities" the removal of Hussein would present.

A member of the Senate committee, without disclosing the contents of the studies, said recently that the release will raise more questions about the Bush administration's lack of preparation for the war's aftermath.

In his book, "At the Center of the Storm," former CIA director George J. Tenet discussed the NIC assessments as well as prewar intelligence analyses his own agency prepared on the same issues. Some of the language in the CIA reports that Tenet describes are similar to judgments in the NIC assessments because the agency is a major contributor to such papers, according to present and former intelligence analysts.

While Tenet admits that the CIA expected Shiites in southern Iraq, "long oppressed by Saddam, to open their arms to anyone who removed him," he said agency analysts were "not among those who confidently expected coalition forces to be greeted as liberators."
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 06:13 PM
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11. Assessments, shmassessments.
We have military experts like Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, and Feith in charge of the country.

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