Parents' fury ... advert for Mormons in middle of children's show

Source: Daily Mail (UK)

Parents' fury as channel Five screens advert for Mormons in middle of children's show

Channel Five is facing angry protests after it screened a Mormon recruitment advert in the middle of programmes watched by infants.

Under broadcasting regulations, religious advertising is banned during children's programmes and now a broadcasting watchdog is investigating why the channel allowed the religious group to screen the commercial during Milkshake!, a morning show watched by children as young as two.

The commercial, which featured a crucifixion scene, included a phone number to ring for a free DVD outlining Mormon beliefs. The group, which is formally known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and is associated with the practice of multiple marriage, professes not to target its teachings at under-18-year-olds.

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The one-minute advert was shown at 9.30am last Saturday, in a break between animated shows Fifi And The Flowertots and Jane And The Dragon.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=459481&in_page_id=1773

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most spot scheduling is done by computer (my wife used to do it for Time Warner, orders are loaded and depending upon the type of spot, it just slots in the available opening). What SHOULD happen is the master control operators should have picked up on that and squelched the spot before it hit the air (I did radio for 10 years and every hour you pulled those hour's spots and you were supposed to review them to make sure nothing "bad" happened).

a combination of errors and pop, you have a problem.

I had just read "Hitchens vs Hitches" (well, I started to, couldn't fade the whole article)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_article_id=459427&in_page_id=1787

and Christopher Hitchens' brother said, regarding the former's book,

"Most of the British elite will applaud, since they see religion as an embarrassing and (worse) unfashionable form of mania."

It never occurred to me there was a place like that. Then I saw the "Mormon Advert" story. LOL!

I would love to see the parents' reaction that that.

oh. my.

I don't know what it is but I know I HAVE to see it.

i think they made this show just for me -- AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT!

After that viewing, just how many infants asked their parents to convert to Mormonism?


cricket sounds.........

"The group, which is formally known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and is associated with the practice of multiple marriage, professes not to target its teachings at under-18-year-olds."

That is a LIE. They target teenagers, maybe not officially but they target them - this I know, because my niece joined the Mormon Church in high school (at age 15), and goes to Brigham Young now. They tried to convert my then-13 year old nephew, but he wanted none of it.

Around here in the states where Mormons live in large numbers, the newscasts often report arrests of polygamists who "marry" (i.e. rape) little girls in their early teens.

I've known a lot of hardcore Mormons, and let me tell you...it's one of the freakier religions you'll ever encounter. :scared:

That they are to ask permission of the parents before speaking to the minors. This is actual church policy, however individual members in general have taken it upon themselves to approach minors and often to have the minor children attending Primary activities or to attend Young Men/Women's programs. Sometimes without fully explaining what the children will learn during these activities.

As a primary teacher, I was often uncomfortable having non-member children attending activities without the full disclosure to the parents what the activities entailed. These activities usually were based on stories in the Book of Mormon or the Bible.

The general presidency needs to look at what the membership is doing and take them to task for not following policy.

Crafty

That was 10 years or so ago.

Don't try to convert minors my pasty vegan ass. :grr:

that convenient?

I'm not saying that it was intentionally done, but no one here has any proof that it wasn't either.
Can't blame people for not assuming innocence where none is yet known to be.

But it worked out fine. Both she and my BIL left the cult and are now swingers.

I thought it was a fascinating show, but haven't heard hide-nor-hair of it since Mitt Romney announced his candidacy for president. Maybe the two events are not related, really.

My son married one Mormon woman. They are both delightful people and have two of our gorgeous grandsons. However, I would not have agreed with any religious PSAs from any church in any children's programming. I used to be the On-Air Promotion Director for WPIX, Channel 11 in New York, and had to deal with the placement of PSAs (Public Service Announcements). It was probably an error, and if not, I believe it will be corrected promptly.

"espousal" of polygamy. I did find the joke very funny, though. Something about so much being so compressed into the one sentence.

it wasn't so funny to read of the suicide of the young Mormon woman, who couldn't endure witnessing the torturing of Iraqis in the jails where she was employed as an interpreter.

We had some policy against religious advertising and PSAs at that time, and I felt bad cuz they had the nicest ones with the most positive messages and production qualities. Parents are hilarious.. they say nothing if their child sits through thousands of Shrek commercials and McDonald's commercials, or thousands of acts of violence on TV, but the freak out over a Mormon ad that was obviously in error. People are so whiney now.

Then he'd come to me and say "Mom, I can get this free DVD." Now, that would immediately raise my radar, but how many parents would say "OK, it's free" and not even ask any questions. At 2 yo, probably not, but get them a little older, and it'll happen. My son, when he was 6yo, has actually told me that he wanted me to get him Gerber Life Insurance and an Ionic Breeze. He tried to use guilt "but Mom, that's clean air for the whole family" or "that protects me for my whole life". Both were advertised during a Nick-at-Night movie he was watching.

Come to think of it, we DID get a freebie VHS or DVD with a crucified Jesus on the cover right before Easter. Maybe it was from LDS. We didn't watch it, we took it as a donation to the GoodWill. When my son asked, I told him I'd read him the story (kid's Bible story - the Presby. version) ;)

Besides, isn't everybody gonna be Mormon eventually due to the posthumus baptism?

What kinds of habits are these small children being taught?

It beats waiting for them in a hot car.

That's the dramatic wording in the article.

in the US
Marketing as mainstream

...I'll find something else to worry about. Next thing you know, they'll read 3 pages of The Book of Mormon, at which point they'll either want to finish it and go out and be missionaries, or they'll get over their LDS mania quicker than you can say "Fifi and the Flowertots."

The program is called Milkshake! Couldn't be any product placement there, eh?

;)

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they are raising two young sons who are very smart. All the adults in the family are well adjusted, and a couple of them who were raised Catholic (lapsed) and Mormon (not practicing anymore) are "just folks" and not religious at all. Others attend weekly services and are part of a ward. My son and daughter-in-law also teach Sunday School, and my son is a Cub Scout leader as well.

I don't see any pod people when we visit with them. There we none at their wedding in 1995. We visit Utah frequently and will be there again in October 2007 on vacation. When we go to the Target store in Layton, Utah, or eat at the delicatessen, or go to the movies in the mall, I don't see ANY zombies, much to your chagrin, I'm sure. Inside the mall, you'd swear you were in any other big city (except maybe for the lack of liquor service in some restaurants).

By the way, I saw "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and you're decidedly wrong about this.

Do you know any Mormons, or are you just spreading this bigoted view for the delight of others here at the Democratic Underground? People are in and out of the Mormon religion for their own personal and private reasons, despite their upbringing. Arm-twisting to remain in a particular religion takes place in Catholic and Protestant churches, Jewish synagogues, and Buddhist temples, as well, or haven't you ever noticed that?

I fail to see the humor in this. Religions purport a variety of incomprehensible possibilities after death -- resurrection, being at the right hand of God or living in a fire-filled place with the Devil. I get shivers big time from almost every religion's fantasizing about an afterlife.

You are entitled to your own opinions. This is a free country. But spare us from your Salem-witchcraft-spooky descriptions of others. Your lack of understanding and lack of compassion is showing... and it isn't a pretty sight at all.

Thanks for listening.

Radio Lady in Oregon

What happened in Salem was "spooky" - men and women murdered by their neighbors because some teenage girls were acting out - but it had nothing to do with witchcraft and everything to do with Christian hysteria. You might want to read up on it; "The Devil in Massachusetts" is an excellent book to start with.

Many "Gentiles" (non-LDS) think things like the baptism of the dead is downright creepy and some - like the relatives of Holocaust victims - think it's downright disrespectful. Perhaps you can see why some might view the LDS mindset as pod-person-like. I sure can.

I don't have to read about it. I was a talk show host for years on a Boston, Massachusetts radio station -- I know enough about the events that happened there after living in the area for almost 30 years.

A lot of people think a lot of things in religion are creepy. How about circumcision? Eating the purported body and blood of Christ? Even a variety of death and after death procedures.

Mormons simply want to insure that even Jews make it to heaven. They believe that if those Jews don't get baptized (it is in a ritual sense only) -- even though they're dead, they won't get in. So they believe it is the will of God that they (Mormons) do this.

Of course, I don't agree with these practices, but I certainly don't think that makes them "pod people." I really don't even see a connection between the two concepts.

Here's a good Yahooo link for the Mormon baptism issue with several cogent answers:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070601130618AAZ6Ior&show=7

Good night and good luck.

I don't mind Mormons, and overall consider them to be a good lot. I come from a town that ran off the Mormons back in the day, but a splinter group of them stayed (Reorganized...Latter Day Saints, now called the "Community of Christ"), and they are said to have pretty much had control of the commerce in this town ever since. This is Harry Truman's home town, no less.

No, the humor in the situation came from the British, who always crack me up, being confronted with Mormon Marketing. And the whole "Fifi and the Flower Tots" thing. I guess to see the humor in it, it's best to read the article in an English accent.

When childrens programming was interrupted by hard-core pornography????