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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:06 PM
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U.S. commander in Iraq to CNN: 'Breathtaking' improvements seen in some areas
Source: CNN

U.S. commander in Iraq to CNN: 'Breathtaking' improvements seen in some areas
BAGHDAD (CNN) -- The commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, says a new approach by multinational forces there is producing 'breathtaking' improvements in security in some areas -- but around Baghdad al Qaeda remains well entrenched in some neighborhoods.

In an exclusive interview with CNN from Baghdad, Petraeus said the situation in the restive Sunni province of Anbar has been "truly transformed in recent months, as the Anbaris and the tribes have decided to oppose al Qaeda and fight with the coalition forces against them."

He added: "What's taken place in Anbar is almost breathtaking. In the last several months tribes that turned a blind eye to what al Qaeda was doing in that province are now opposing al Qaeda, very vigorously. And the level of violence in Anbar has plummeted, all though there clearly is still work to be done."

"Our strategy has always been with this new approach to determine who are the reconcilables and to separate them from the irreconcilables, the extremists," he said.



Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/07/thursday/index.html?section=cnn_latest



DELUSIONAL :crazy:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:08 PM
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1. Al Anbar?!?!? Al Anbar has been working on kicking out foreign fighters for over 2 years!!
Nothing to do with "The Surge" or anything the US is doing to "help".

And I love the over-abundant use of "Al Qaeda". Petraeus would shit hits drawers if he ran up against a real member of Al Qaeda (like Ailes, O'Reilly, Hannity... :evilgrin: )

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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:08 PM
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2. GREAT! Now lets get out.
Super. Things are going great. Now lets get out.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:40 PM
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14. Yup! ...
Mission Accomplished!...now let's get our troops out!
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:02 PM
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18. Bush is a genius
Cool, time to come home now.
Let shrub go down as the most brilliant military tactician in history
who really cares as long as our kids come home.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:10 PM
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3. Delusional is a generous term.
I prefer to call it TREASON! The rat bastard is LYING through his teeth and he is a member of the ACTIVE MILITARY who has an OBLIGATION to defend and protect our servicemen and women. Because of traitors like Pace and Betrayus...our military is BROKEN and our soldiers are being offered up to slaughter. Sounds like a treasonous act to me.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:10 PM
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4. I've looked in Petraeus's eyes, and have seen...that he's a lying weasel n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:12 PM
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5. Bootlicking yes-man spouts party line!
A disgrace to the uniform.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:13 PM
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6. I'm surprised he didn't they could see the light at the end of the tunnel
:eyes:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:13 PM
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7. In "some areas." Like the new Super Embassy construction.
Breathtaking is absolutely right.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:18 PM
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8. We should put a stop to this catapulting of the propaganda
and just catapult BushCo and his "Generals on the ground" into the Persian Gulf.

Most problems can be solved simply with a nice catapult.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:24 PM
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9. meanwhile.... New war czar(Lute) testified today that he has doubts about the "surge"
and the Iraqi gov't having any control...
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:26 PM
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10. All that needs to be said is the travel warning by the State Dept:
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 01:26 PM by gulfcoastliberal

Travel Warning
United States Department of State
Bureau of Consular Affairs
Washington, DC 20520

This information is current as of today, Thu Jun 07 2007 13:13:57 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time).
IRAQ

August 28, 2006
This Travel Warning updates the current security situation and reiterates the dangers of the use of civilian aircraft and road travel within Iraq. This supersedes the Travel Warning of December 29, 2005 and the Public Announcement dated March 24, 2006.

The Department of State continues to strongly warn U.S. citizens against travel to Iraq, which remains very dangerous. Remnants of the former Ba’ath regime, transnational terrorists, criminal elements and numerous insurgent groups remain active. Attacks against military and civilian targets throughout Iraq continue, including in the International (or “Green”) Zone. Targets include convoys en-route to venues, hotels, restaurants, police stations, checkpoints, foreign diplomatic missions, international organizations and other locations with expatriate personnel. These attacks have resulted in deaths and injuries of American citizens, including those doing humanitarian work. In addition, there have been planned and random killings, as well as extortions and kidnappings. U.S. citizens have been kidnapped and several were subsequently murdered by terrorists in Iraq. U.S. citizens and other foreigners continue to be targeted by insurgent groups and opportunistic criminals for kidnapping and murder. Military operations continue. There are daily attacks against Multinational Forces - Iraq (MNF-I), Iraqi Security Forces and Iraqi Police throughout the country.

There is credible information that terrorists are targeting civil aviation. Civilian and military aircraft arriving at and departing from Baghdad International Airport for other major cities in Iraq have been subjected to small arms and missiles. Civilian aircraft do not generally possess systems, such as those found on military aircraft, capable of defeating man-portable, surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS). Anyone choosing to utilize civilian aircraft to enter or depart or travel within Iraq should be aware of this potential threat, as well as the extremely high risk to road transportation described below. As a result of a recent security incident at the Baghdad International Airport (BIAP), the U.S. Embassy is prohibiting all U.S. government employees from departing BIAP on commercial airlines until further notice.

All vehicular travel in Iraq is extremely dangerous. There have been numerous attacks on civilian vehicles, as well as military convoys. Attacks occur throughout the day, but travel at night is exceptionally dangerous. Travel in or through Ramadi and Fallujah; in and between al-Hillah, al-Basrah, Kirkuk, and Baghdad; between the International Zone and Baghdad International Airport; and from Baghdad to Mosul is particularly dangerous.

Occasionally, U.S. Government personnel are prohibited from traveling to certain areas depending on prevailing security conditions. There continues to be heavy use of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), (especially new-type Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFP), and/or mines on roads, concealed in plastic bags, boxes, soda cans, dead animals, and in other ways to blend with the road. Grenades and explosives have been thrown into vehicles from overpasses, particularly in crowded areas. Overland travel should be undertaken only when absolutely necessary and with the appropriate security.


The U.S. Embassy is located in the International Zone. The Embassy can provide only limited emergency services to U.S. citizens in Iraq. At present, travel to and from the International Zone is extremely limited. The U.S. Embassy does not provide visa services to the general public. American citizens who choose to visit or reside in Iraq despite this Travel Warning are urged to pay close attention to their personal security, avoid crowds, especially rallies or demonstrations, and to inform the U.S. Embassy of their presence in Iraq. All Americans in Baghdad are strongly encouraged to register with the Embassy at the following website: https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/home.asp.

American citizens may obtain the latest security information or other information about Iraq by calling the U.S. Embassy, located in the International Zone, via landline at: 1-240-553-0584 x5340 or x5346, via Iraqna cellular phones at 07901-732-134 or 07901-168-383, via e-mail to usconsulbaghdad@state.gov, or via the U.S. Embassy's website at http//iraq.usembassy.gov. The after-hours number in case of extreme emergency is 1-914-822-5493.

Updated information on travel and security in Iraq may be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 within the United States, or, from overseas, 1-202-501-4444. For further information, please consult the Consular Information Sheet for Iraq, the current Worldwide Caution and the Middle East and North Africa Public Announcements, all of which are available on the Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet website at http://travel.state.gov.
- edit, emphasis added.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_921.html?css=print

Amazing how these dictators spin defeat into victory. After all, Saddam won against Iran and also beat the US in the 1st war. He even had victory palaces built to cement those historic "facts".


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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:36 PM
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11. "Well entrenched in some neighborhoods"
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 01:36 PM by FVZA_Colonel
According to recent counts, those would be up to around two-thirds of Baghdad neighborhoods. I'd hardly use as simple a word as "some" for so large a figure.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:47 PM
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12. Breathtaking?

Petraeus is a "breathtaking" government stamped bona fide prick, bar none!!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:30 PM
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13. Breathtaking?
Like when you breathe your last breath?





:smoke:
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:43 PM
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15. Yes... It is breathtaking...
Every time a bullet or shrapnel lodges itself into a vital organ, it takes a person's breath away... permanently.

:eyes:
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:32 PM
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16. Did you like the new terminlogy?
"Reconcilables and irreconcilables".................
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:22 PM
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17. Well when you die your breath is taken away... so I guess he's right! (nt)
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:04 PM
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19. I told ya so... more and more news stories of how its working or ..
on the verge of success or serious changes are happening... This hype is prelude to the September request for more money.... Here we go again... and our leaders will just buckle under pressure so I am going to start telling them that this war belongs to them. They have the control to cut the funds and end it for good but if they keep getting snowed with the B.S. then they are stupid and therefore are responsible for their inaction.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:29 PM
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20. Breath-Taking Lies, Is More Like It
Ain't enough lipstick in the world for this pig. F*** the Good Soldiers, says Bush. I say, F*** Bush and his enablers, be they soldiers or not.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:53 PM
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21. Yes the lack of progress takes my breath away.
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 05:56 PM by Kagemusha
This covers something other than "the tribes" specifically, possibly.. but nonetheless:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6689485,00.html

What happens if the tribes and Al Qaeda make peace again? Heh. Silly Petraeus.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:10 PM
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22. I thought I saw news of a truce between the Sunni and al Qaeda in
Iraq.

In Time Magazine

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1629871,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner

A Truce Between U.S. Enemies in Iraq

A cease-fire agreement between Iraq's leading Sunni insurgent group and al-Qaeda is bad news for the U.S. military, which has been trying hard to drive a wedge between them. A statement by the Islamic Army that appeared on a jihadist website Wednesday says "an agreement has been reached al-Qaeda in Iraq, leading to an immediate cessation of all military operations between the two sides." The statement added that the two groups would form a "judicial committee" to address their differences
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:17 PM
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23. In fact, a lot of Iraqis are not breathing at all, thanks to "our strategy".
:puke::puke:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:17 PM
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24. Visit beautiful Anbar province
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 06:20 PM by Barrett808
Let's see what a search on Iraq Front News turns up:

2731 Suicice bomber kills Iraqi police in Anbar province
Suicice bomber kills Iraqi police in Anbar province A suicide bomber struck a gathering of anti-al Qaida tribal leaders in troubled Anbar province on Tuesday, blowing up ...
Jun 5, 2007
9:06 pm

2661 Chlorine suicide truck bomb in Diyala province sickens 62 US troops
... turn an ordinary bomb into a chemical weapon has become a signature tactic of insurgents fighting U.S. and Iraqi forces in Al Anbar province, west of Baghdad. But Sunday's attack was believed to be the first time the method was used in Diyala province, north ...
Jun 3, 2007
7:48 pm

2521 Suicide truck bomber kills five in Ramadi
Suicide truck bomber kills five in Ramadi In Ramadi, capital of Anbar, a suicide truck bomber killed five and wounded 15 in an attack on a mobile telephone communications centre. (more) <http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070531/ts_nm/iraq_dc>
May 31, 2007
2:46 pm

2407 Roundup of violence in Iraq - Sunday, May 27th, 2007
... following neighborhoods: four in Hay Ur, one in Rageba Khatoon, one in Bab Al-Muathim, two in Al-Shaab, and two in Adhemiyah. Anbar -In a marketplace in Ramadi a car bomb Sunday killed seven and injured 12. DIYALA -A body was found Sunday with three shots ...
May 28, 2007
11:00 am

MNF-W Marine dies in non-combat incident
... Marine dies in non-combat incident A Marine assigned to Multi National Force-West died May 25 in a non-combat related incident in Al Anbar Province. The name of the deceased is being withheld pending notification of next of kin and release by the Department of Defense ...
May 25, 2007
7:14 pm

2308 Roundup of Iraq Violence -- Thursday, May 24, 2007
... eastern part of Baghdad, in the following neighborhoods: 1 body in Sadr City, 1 body in Husseiniyah and 1 body Al Saadoun). Anbar Around 10.00am, a suicide car bomb killed 20 civilian and injured 30 others near Al-Fardaws mosque in Fallujah. The explosion ...
May 25, 2007
10:51 am

2299 Attack kills 30 Iraqi mourners
... vehicle struck a bomb in Salahuddin province, and another was killed by small arms fire in Diyala province. Two troops died Wednesday in Al Anbar province. Read more (more) <http://www.topix.net/world/iraq/2007/05/attack-kills-30-iraqi-mourners>
May 25, 2007
9:57 am

2249 Marines Fail to Get Gear to Troops
... commander in Iraq from June 2004 to February 2005. The document lists 24 examples of equipment urgently needed by Marines in Iraq's Anbar province. One, the mine resistant ambush protected vehicle, has received attention as a promising way to protect troops from ...
May 24, 2007
6:00 pm

2248 Security developments in Iraq, May 24
... six wounded when a roadside bomb exploded near their patrol in the town of Sulaiman Bek, 250 km north of Baghdad, police said. Anbar - Two U.S. soldiers were killed in combat on Wednesday in Anbar Province, the U.S. military said. NEAR KIRKUK - Saboteurs set ...
May 24, 2007
11:40 am

2222 MNF-W forces attacked - 2 Marines killed
MNF-W forces attacked - 2 Marines killed Two Marines assigned to Multi National Force-West were killed May 22 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar Province. (more) <http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11974 &Itemid=128>
May 23, 2007
8:59 pm

2204 At Least 100 Iraqis Killed or Found Dead
... and the seventh was killed by small arms fire. The military said only that the two Marines were killed in combat operations in Anbar province. In the town of Mandali, on the Iranian border 60 miles east of Baghdad, meanwhile, a suicide bomber walked into a ...
May 23, 2007
9:23 am

2127 Roundup of Iraq Violence -- Sunday, May 20, 2007
... Hurriya. 5 bodies were found in the east bank (Rusafa) -- 2 in Kasra Watash, 2 in Kahira (Cairo neighborhood) and 1 in Sadr City. Anbar - Coalition forces killed 6 terrorists and detained 4 suspects at a building at Karmah (5 km east of Fallujah, 64 km west of ...

Security developments in Iraq, May 20
... Sunday against al Qaeda in Baghdad and in western Iraq, the U.S. military said. Six were killed in an airstrike near Garma, in Anbar province, while two were killed southwest of Baghdad. * KUT - Two militiamen were killed and four others wounded in clashes ...
May 20, 2007
10:03 am

2084 Security developments in Iraq, May 19
... Friday, police said. BAGHDAD - One U.S. soldier was killed by small arms fire south of Baghdad on Friday, the U.S. military said. Anbar - A U.S. soldier was killed during combat operations in western Anbar province on Friday, the U.S. military said. KIRKUK - Gunmen ...
May 19, 2007
6:37 pm

2082 MNF-W forces attacked - 1 soldier killed
MNF-W forces attacked - 1 soldier killed A Soldier assigned to Multi National Force-West was killed May 18 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar Province. (more) <http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11937 &Itemid=128>
May 19, 2007
6:37 pm


1951 Security developments in Iraq, May 15
... when gunmen attacked an Iraqi army checkpoint on Monday night in Iskandariya, 40 km (25 miles) south of Baghdad, police said. Anbar - A U.S. Marine was killed in combat on Monday in western Anbar province, the U.S. military said. http://mobile.alertnet.org ...
May 15, 2007
7:02 pm

1949 FACTBOX-Military and civilian deaths in Iraq
FACTBOX-Military and civilian deaths in Iraq Source: Reuters May 15 - A U.S. Marine was killed in combat on Monday in western Anbar province, the U.S. military said on Tuesday. A U.S. airman was killed and three others were wounded by a roadside bomb ... (more ...
May 15, 2007
6:31 pm

1783 Troops in Iraq get safer vehicle
... and we're going to get that to the field as best we can." No Marines had been killed in the 300 attacks on Marine MRAPs in Anbar province, USA TODAY reported on April 19. Last week, two Army soldiers were killed when a bomb struck their MRAP in Iraq. Humvees ...
May 10, 2007
6:30 pm

1780 MNF troops destroy plant for car bombs in Anbar
MNF troops destroy plant for car bombs in Anbar A plant to set up booby-trapped cars with chlorine gas explosives was destroyed and a terrorist was killed during busting operations ...
May 10, 2007
6:06 pm

1765 Security developments in Iraq, May 10
... developments in Iraq at 1700 GMT on Thursday: * denotes new or updated item. * FALLUJA - A U.S. marine was killed in combat in Anbar province on Wednesday, the U.S. military said. * BAGHDAD - Iraqi special forces, backed by U.S. troops, captured three suspects ...

Two suicide car bombs kill 20 near Iraq's Ramadi
... a town called Albu-Thiyab, east of Ramadi, said Tareq al-Thiyab, a police colonel and a government security adviser in western Anbar province. The second car bomb targeted a police checkpoint in a town called al-Jazeera, he said. Sunni Islamist al Qaeda is engaged ...
May 8, 2007
4:57 pm

1663 Security developments in Iraq, May 6
... soldier was killed and four others were wounded by a roadside bomb in western Baghdad on Friday, the U.S. military said on Sunday. Anbar PROVINCE - Two U.S. Marines were killed in combat on Saturday in Anbar province in western Iraq, the U.S. military said in a ...
May 6, 2007
1:51 pm

1612 MNF-W forces attacked - 2 killed
MNF-W forces attacked - 2 killed Two Soldiers assigned to Multi National Force-West were killed May 3 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar Province. (more) <http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11761 &Itemid=21>
May 4, 2007
11:35 am

1608 Sunni Join Forces Against Al-Qaeda
Sunni Join Forces Against Al-Qaeda Tribal leaders in Anbar province are joining forces to fight off the extremist insurgent group and build ties with the United States military and the Iraqi ...
May 4, 2007
11:30 am

1515 Security developments in Iraq, May 2
... Baghdad, police said. BAGHDAD - The bodies of 15 people were found shot in different districts of Baghdad on Tuesday, police said. Anbar PROVINCE - U.S. forces detained 10 suspected insurgents in Anbar province and two others in Baghdad during overnight raids targeting ...
May 2, 2007
8:29 am

1480 Security developments in Iraq, April 30
... attacked with small arms fire in eastern Baghdad on Saturday, the U.S. military said. BAGHDAD - A U.S. marine was killed in western Anbar province on Sunday, the U.S. military said. MOSUL - Six gunmen were killed and two wounded when they attacked a police station ...
Apr 30, 2007
12:38 pm

1469 14 U.S. troops killed in 3 days in Iraq
... sixth deadliest month of the Iraq war, according to the U.S. military. A U.S. Marine was killed Sunday during combat operations in Anbar province, west of Baghdad, the military said Monday. On Sunday, three soldiers were killed and another was wounded when a roadside ...

Security developments in Iraq, April 27
... said U.S. forces had detained seven suspected gunmen. FALLUJA - Three U.S. Marines were killed in combat in the volatile western Anbar province on Thursday, the U.S. military said. MUSSAYAB - Gunmen killed three people when they shot at a house belonging to a guard ...
Apr 27, 2007
3:16 pm

1381 Security Incidents for 04/26/07
... 50 yards from the office, police said. The attack occurred at about 8 a.m. in Zumar, a town that is 45 miles west of Mosul Al Anbar Prv: Unknown gunman on Thursday shot dead a member of the Sunni Iraqi Islamic Party in Falluja, 45 km west of Baghdad, a police ...
Apr 27, 2007
10:53 am

1377 MNF-W forces attacked - 3 killed
MNF-W forces attacked - 3 killed Three Marines assigned to Multi National Force-West died April 26 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar Province. (more) <http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11663 &Itemid=128>
Apr 27, 2007
10:20 am

1345 Progress in Iraq's Anbar "breathtaking": US general
Progress in Iraq's Anbar 'breathtaking': US general The US commander of multinational forces ... Wednesday that efforts to quell unrest in the western Sunni province of Anbar have made almost "breathtaking" progress. (more) <http://news.yahoo ...
Apr 26, 2007
9:37 am

1314 North Carolina squadron loses 18 soldiers in five weeks in Iraq
... fighting in an insurgent stronghold, Diyala Province, that for much of the war has been overshadowed by fighting in Baghdad and Anbar province, but is emerging as one of the most dangerous places for U.S. troops. The attackers struck the small outpost in the ...
Apr 25, 2007
11:48 am

1310 Sunnis want Palestinians out of Iraq
... threatening notes on the doors of Palestinians taking refuge in Anbar province Palestinians living in Iraq's Anbar province have come ... are about 150 families taking refuge in different cities of Anbar province but they haven't been registered with the National ...
Apr 25, 2007
10:26 am

1288 MNF-W forces attacked - 1 Marine killed
MNF-W forces attacked - 1 Marine killed A Marine assigned to Multi National Force-West died April 23 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar Province. (more) <http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11617 &Itemid=128>
Apr 24, 2007
3:21 pm

1254 Suicide blast kills 9 U.S. soldiers
... checkpoint exploded in Ramadi at 1:15 p.m., wounding three policemen and four civilians, including a child. Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, has long been a magnet for Sunni insurgents and a lawless haven for al-Qaida militants, but the U.S. military recently ...
Apr 23, 2007
6:08 pm
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:13 PM
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26. Maybe McCain should take a trip there
But without body armor.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:13 PM
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25. And we only had to slaughter 600,000 Iraqis!
Even if what this guy says has some truth, at what cost did it come?
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 12:20 AM
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27. CNN is in FULL propaganda mode... all saw the puff piece about how one jihadi
group has turned against al quaeda. This is being viewed somehow as progress despite... despite the fact the still want to butcher American soldiers and anyone who aids them...
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:54 AM
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28. Summer is upon the Middle East... Even terrorists take a holiday
in the extreme heat...
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:57 AM
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29. i remember a SF story once about the effect of heat on murder rates
Maybe Bradbury?? Pre-air conditioning days...
Anyway, rates rise up to a certain point, then fall back suddenly. Too hot to move.
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