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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 10:29 PM
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Lords to look at legality of Iraq war
Source: Guardian Unlimited


Lords to look at legality of Iraq war


· Bereaved mothers win right to have appeal heard
· Petition drafted by two leading human rights QCs

Clare Dyer, legal editor
Monday June 18, 2007
The Guardian

Britain's highest court is to hear a case which could force the government to hold an independent inquiry into the way the attorney general reached his conclusion that the war in Iraq would be lawful. The law lords have agreed to hear an appeal by the mothers of two soldiers killed in Iraq, who argue that the government violated their sons' right to life by rushing into war on inadequate legal grounds.

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Lords to look at legality of Iraq war


· Bereaved mothers win right to have appeal heard
· Petition drafted by two leading human rights QCs

Clare Dyer, legal editor
Monday June 18, 2007
The Guardian

Britain's highest court is to hear a case which could force the government to hold an independent inquiry into the way the attorney general reached his conclusion that the war in Iraq would be lawful. The law lords have agreed to hear an appeal by the mothers of two soldiers killed in Iraq, who argue that the government violated their sons' right to life by rushing into war on inadequate legal grounds.

"The legality of the war on Iraq - the most important question of law of our generation - remains unresolved by any court or other independent and authoritative body in the United Kingdom," begins the petition which persuaded the judges to let the appeal go ahead.

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The judges are unlikely to reach a conclusion themselves on whether the war was legal. But the mothers' solicitor, Phil Shiner, said yesterday that the arguments put forward by the lawyers had hardened since the court of appeal rejected the mothers' case, and would require the law lords to consider the government's moves in the last few weeks before the war.

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The appeal court ruled that it was impossible to separate questions of law and political wisdom in deciding to wage war, and that policy issues were not a matter for the courts. But the law lords' decision to take the case on means that the question will be considered afresh by five of Britain's top judges. The law lords are expected to hear the case at the end of this year or in early 2008. Mrs Gentle said: "I am delighted with the decision. It has been a long, hard fight but I am determined that I am not going to let this go." Mrs Clarke added: "I am over the moon. This is the best news I have had for ages."

Read more: http://politics.guardian.co.uk/lords/story/0,,2105241,00.html



Maybe we'll finally find out if the war was legal or not.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:21 PM
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1. Great news! Maybe this will help shame our congress into getting off its fat timid butt;
I'm not holding my breath, mind you, but it seems at least theoretically possible.
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 04:37 PM
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9. As a fat person I resent the use of that adjective in this manner.
Other than that, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Our Congress is a disappointment.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:21 PM
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2. Good to hear the system is beginning to work in Britain.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 12:16 AM
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3. I thought The Lord Already signed off on all this,
:sarcasm:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:06 AM
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4. I don't know how England's Laws relate to ours but IMO by US Law it was an illegal invasion
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 09:07 AM by Toots
and is today an illegal occupation. War Crimes have been committed by the highest government officials in the USA. IMO I know there are the Gonzales' in the Administration that justify torture, abandoning Geneva Accords, Unitary Executive Control, etc. but I don't believe their argument can hold up in a court that is not tainted by Republican control.
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VanPelt4IndSenate Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:24 AM
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5. It is about time
Good
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 01:28 PM
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6. watch the trial of tony blair on bbc america. its the next best thing.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:46 PM
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7. With the poodle's impending retirement this might just stand a chance...
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 03:46 PM by truebrit71
...and it also has the potential to lay a rather nasty smelling mess at the feet of Gordon Brown...if the Lords say that an inquiry is needed will Gordie accept that and order an inquiry, or will he don his very own poodle suit and dismiss it as being 'detrimental when our soldiers are in harm's way'...?

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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:51 PM
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8. Hasn't the UK been invading countries for hundreds and hundreds
of years. So what is the difference now? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 04:39 PM
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10. Lords....that's such a funny statement.
The 'Lords' will look into the legality of the Iraq war.

Can you imagine what an ego trip that must be? To be addressed as "Lord Guinness", or "Lord Fauntleroy".

Small wonder England went along with the hare brained idea of invading Iraq in the first place.

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