Bush critics still vocal despite major win in Iraq

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Bush's critics still vocal despite major win in Iraq
By Ron Hutcheson and James Kuhnhenn
Knight Ridder Newspapers


WASHINGTON - The deaths of Saddam Hussein's sons Tuesday gave President Bush a rare break from mounting U.S. casualties and growing doubts about his rationale for war, but didn't silence his critics or solve his problems in Iraq.


Bush's critics haven't questioned whether the U.S. military could kill Iraqis; rather, they have accused the president of distorting evidence that Iraq posed an imminent threat to America and its interests, one requiring a pre-emptive war to eliminate. Critics also have called for Bush to seek more help from allies in policing postwar Iraq rather than having U.S. troops shoulder so much of the load.

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"No one can underestimate the value of the developments today," said Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D. "But I would simply say that what many of us have said from the beginning is that in order to win the peace, we need more help. We need more resources, we need more personnel, we need more international involvement. This doesn't change that."


Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and one of the Bush administration's most persistent critics on Iraq, said the deaths didn't end the danger American troops were facing.


"If they're any inspiration to the guerrillas, I'm glad they're gone," Durbin said. "The sad reality is that our troops are still in a dangerous situation. We can expect, unfortunately, more bad news."

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I'm glad thr Dems are keeping their focus on real issues.

We invaded a sovereign nation, that posed no threat to us what so ever, against international law....to seize their oil.

The former leader of that country, that we used to support and do business with is a "horrible, horrible man". We just killed his two sons. What in the fu*k does that have to do with America or its interests? How is that a victory ?

I am still doubtful the two bodies charred or mutilated beyond recognition are U and Q. The history channel ran a special last night "Saddams evil sons".....just a coincidence, im sure :eyes:

I mean the neo-cons havent lied to us before have they ? If Saddam and sons are in another country, likely Russian protectorate, then this makes things easier doesnt it ? Sort of like the guy who fakes his death to make off with the insurance money.

the reporter didn't call it a major victory. He said it's a "rare break" for Bush as he faces escalating criticism. Sounds pretty accurate to me.

sounds like a synonym for "victory" to me, its a bullshit premise.

Maybe if the writer means, 48 hour respite from daily American casualties, and growing scandals of lies and deception......then i think its a good take on the matter.

...Saddam's sons were a non-factor in the Iraqi situation, period. Now, killing them has become a "major win"...?

:wtf:

Are we supposed to now believe that all of the attacks against American troops over the past month were staged under the direct supervision of those two? If we think that, we've got a bit surprise coming...

:eyes:

Quite the opposite: it's an even bigger non-event than Jessica Lynch's homecoming.

rocknation

because thats what they are. As Senator Dick Durbin said, our men and women are still in danger. It isn't over until it isn't over.

The WMD issue is still very important!!!

and this is a big victory..... now the war is all worth it.? Where is Saddamm? Where are the Nukes?

Totally irrelevant to the issue at hand. Bush lied to start an illegal, immoral war for profit.

major breaks stood the test of time? This may go the way of all those WMD discoveries. Another thing - isn't that 9-11 report due out this week????

If Suddam had WMD's and the ability/will to deliver these weapons as the B twins claim...why isn't the administration concerned that with his children's deaths that our troops might risk vengeance? I also heard Suddam's 14 year old grandson was killed today. Isn't that reason enough for vengeance? I also thought it was against international law to assassinate other country's leaders? Declaring war on a residence by the U.S. military ending in death to the residents leaves me a little queasy. Especially if the 14 year old grandson was killed. We should have starved them out or tear gassed them out and held them for trials by the world court.

Everyone else is still in play - even, it would seem, Idi Amin. I don't trust Rumsfeld to provide proof of anything beyond the sun rising in the east.

I mean, it hasn't worked out very well for Israel in the long run. There it just seems to inflame all the passions even more. Yes, I know these 2 were horrible people and easily deserved their fate, but what happened to the legal system? What happened to trials? Dubya says the war is over, can we now say these are "war casualties"? Or are they simply murdered?

He said it is a huge blow to an Arab to have his "line" wiped out while he is still alive, so that he lives with the knowledge that his lineage is finished.

I wonder if the "grownups" in the administration understand this cultural tidbit.

and grandsons.

Pitch forks and torches are the new law.
Trial by jury? We don't need no stinking trial by jury...

You liberals are really starting to piss Chimpy off! He called "Mission Accomplished" and the mission is by God accomplished!! We got two charred bodies, what more evidence do we need? Soon, water will flow in the desert, the troops will come home, and western-style democracy (not that fuckin' Old Europe-style parliamentarianism) will be bustin' out all over!

And when it does, you liberals will all have egg on your face, and me and Ann Coulter will have a big laugh. Ha, ha. (That's how we'll laugh.) Then, we start the executions.

Start a thread over at the lounge where everybody gives their best FReeper impression. Winner gets...um...ah...a virtual :beer:?

Get REAL!!!!

We are being killed because we are the hated forign power that conquered and killed their people. The Iraqis could give a rat's *ss about Saddam and company. That will do nothing to improve things.

If Saddam had no WMD and the war has no legal cause, why kill the sons of Saddam? What's the legal justification for this act? Why are we in Iraq?

huh? Getting these two is a sideshow, a one day wonder and won't make any difference to the situation in Iraq. Calling this a "major win" shows just how desperate they are for some good news.

Of course, it wasn't a major win in Iraq militarily or politically.

The major win happened here in the U.S. The white house reasserted their media dominance.

Terry Moran's last line in his report about Hadley taking the fall. He lead with ~"this is proof that they doubts reached the White House" I heard the same type of thing on BBC and .....O'Reilly

:scared:

to what's going on behind the curtain. Soon the dimwit sheeple will watch and believe as somehow the Hussein sons morph into Saddam and Osama so that AWOL can declare final victory.