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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:08 PM
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Al-Qaeda threatens war against Iran
Source: Al Jazeera

The leader of an al-Qaeda umbrella group in Iraq, who was thought to have beeen killed by US forces, has threatened to wage war against Iran unless it stops supporting Shias in Iraq within two months.

Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, head of the Islamic State in Iraq, said his Sunni fighters have been preparing to wage a battle against Shia-dominated Iran.

Al-Baghdadi made the announcement in an audiotape that was posted on a web site commonly used by armed groups.

Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D1B901E0-A9E5-4D3A-937B-7B5262BBE82C.htm
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:10 PM
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1. The enemy of our enemy of our enemy...
...is still our enemy?:crazy:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:12 PM
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2. Is it just me or does this sound like the pitch to a wacky sitcom
Al Queda attacks Iran and hijinx ensue on next episode of "That's my Fundie!"
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:13 PM
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3. Quick--which side are we on?
:shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:15 PM
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5. Both!
See that way we can't get surrounded... unless they draw into the middle or something
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:16 PM
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7. GREEN!
No, BLUE!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:14 PM
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4. Oh man are we going to have to kill this one more than once too?!?!
_______________________________
Zarqawi Eclipsing Bin Laden in Prominence
Wednesday, May 12, 2004
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119700,00.html
In 1999, after being released from jail in Jordan, Zarqawi formed an alliance with bin Laden allowing Zarqawi to operate a training camp in Afghanistan for Arab fighters committed to the overthrow of Jordan's moderate monarchy.
During the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, Zarqawi is believed to have been badly wounded in a U.S. airstrike and fled to Iran. Later, he ended up in Baghdad, where Saddam's regime allowed him to recuperate for several months after having his leg amputated.

But check out how CNN spins itself into the ground trying to cover for Bush five weeks earlier
Tuesday, April 6, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/06/us.zarqawi/
A U.S. official said Tuesday that al-Zarqawi traveled to Baghdad in May 2002 for treatment of a leg injury but, contrary to previous reports, appears not to have had a leg amputated. The official would not discuss the reason for the change in assessment.
Al-Zarqawi, an associate of Osama bin Laden, had been named by the Bush administration as an al Qaeda member who fled to Iraq from Afghanistan in May 2002 for medical treatment and then stayed to organize terror plots. He came to Iraq with about two dozen al Qaeda terrorists, according to the administration.
Before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, President Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and other administration officials pointed to intelligence that they said suggested al-Zarqawi had had his leg amputated in Baghdad.

Unfortunately a YEAR before that report CNN said:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/29/sprj.irq.terrorist.capture/index.html
Zarqawi was said to have received medical treatment in Baghdad in May and June of 2002 after being wounded in Afghanistan during the war. His leg was amputated, U.S. officials say, by a surgeon in Iraq.




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Some Evidence Suggests Saddam Dead: Bush
Last updated at: (Beijing Time) Friday, April 25, 2003
http://english.people.com.cn/200304/25/eng...
US President Bush said in a television interview Thursday that there is some evidence suggesting Saddam Hussein is either dead or "at the very minimum was severely wounded." Bush also said US troops would remain in Iraq "as long as necessary."

DNA tests after missiles strike 'Saddam convoy'
Sunday June 22, 2003
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/...
American specialists were carrying out DNA tests last night on human remains believed by US military sources to be those of Saddam Hussein and one of his sons, The Observer can reveal.

Officials suspect Saddam was killed in bombing
Posted 4/10/2003
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/20...
WASHINGTON — U.S. intelligence has no clear information on Saddam Hussein's whereabouts, but the betting in the Pentagon's executive offices is that the Iraqi dictator lies dead under a pile of rubble in Baghdad, according to defense and intelligence officials.

But the theory given most credence is that Saddam died in Monday's bomber attack on a home near a Baghdad restaurant.
"The official take from the Pentagon is that Saddam is 'unfound,' " a senior defense intelligence official said on condition of anonymity. "Most along the E-Ring (the Pentagon's outermost hallway and executive suite) think he's under the rubble."
A Defense Department intelligence official said an abrupt end to an electronic intelligence intercept of Iraqi leadership conversations indicated that Saddam and his sons were at the site at the time of the bombing.
"The signal died when the bombs hit," the official said.

Saddam Captured 'Like a Rat' in Raid
Sunday, December 14, 2003
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105706...

Saddam Hussein arrested in Iraq
Sunday, 14 December, 2003, 17:04 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_ea...
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Pentagon: 'Chemical Ali' Killed in Attack
Tuesday, April 8, 2003
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...

WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon believes "Chemical Ali," Saddam Hussein's cousin who ordered a chemical attack on Kurds in northern Iraq in 1988, is dead, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld confirmed Monday.

'Chemical Ali' reported dead
Monday, 7 April, 2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/292...


Officials: Body of 'Chemical Ali' Found in Basra
Monday, April 07, 2003
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83383,...


'Chemical Ali' Captured in Iraq
Thursday, August 21, 2003
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95314,...


'Chemical Ali' in U.S. custody
Thursday, August 21, 2003
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/08... /
DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Ali Hassan al-Majid, the Iraqi general known as "Chemical Ali," is in U.S. custody, military officials tell CNN.


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/underpants/18
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:33 PM
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11. "Can you say 'NewsSpeak'?"
"Sure you can! I knew you could!"

Thanks for the reminders.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:15 PM
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6. Wow! I guess we changed their hearts and minds afterall!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:20 PM
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8. So, will this be all over the Nightly News Shows, tonight?
No? Ok...
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:22 PM
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9. Oh, so when the attacks on Iran begin it will be those dastardly Al Kidies
doing the killing, not us. Gosh those Al Kidies have been the most convenient foes we've ever crea...er...had the pleasure to do war with.

It's like having a magic wand!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:36 PM
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19. pretty funny
how they expect anyone to believe this is beyond me
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:23 PM
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10. Well there goes the invasion of Iran - I mean, how can we
attack them if AQ hates them, we'd be doing AQ a favor.

Damn, back to the drawing board war moungers. :freak:

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:22 PM
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15. I don't know about that --
after all, AQ hated Saddam, and we attacked Iraq while letting their leader off the hook.

Come to think of it, AQ had no problem with using drug money for financing, according to reports, but the Taliban was eradicating the poppy crops - then we attacked Afghanistan, destroyed the Taliban, and the poppy crop rebounded.

It's starting to look like we are AQ's most trusted ally.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:34 PM
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18. Was that before or after we paid the Taliban the $43 Million in May of '01
I really get confused - I want the scorecard that the WH uses, it must change hourly, or has special provisions like "except for the 3rd Sunday of the month with the 1st new moon for the year". :crazy:

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:42 PM
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12. See, the Surge is working.....
{{TOP SECRET}} {{POTUS EYES ONLY}}
Plan to win Middle East.
1. Remove power structure (Saddam) from Iraq.*
2. Allow rival Muslim factions to fill vacuum created by 1.
3. Lose less than 10,000 American lives while waiting for faction fighting to spread.
4. Sit back and watch as factions launch all out wars against one another.
5. Maintain presence in region to soak up as much of the dwindling oil production as humanly possible.
6. Profit!!!

*#1 will be tricky and probably not possible without a galvanizing, Pearl Harbor like, event.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 12:46 PM
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13. the irony n/t
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:00 PM
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14. Hmm, Dubya and Al Qaida are on the same page.
Nuff said.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:17 PM
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16. here we go again, 1980's redux of afghanistan against the russians.
I see us pulling out, then funding these "al-queda" and let them do our dirty work, only for it to come back and bite us in the ass like it did with 9/11.

Weeeeee!!! I hate learning from history, it's sooooo boring...
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:19 PM
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17. Quick, we must invade Iran to save Iran.
Did they add the dude back to the Access database?

er of an al-Qaeda umbrella group in Iraq, who was thought to have beeen killed by US forces
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:57 PM
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20. tools
The neo-cons couldn't dream up a better enemy. They're really just like the neo-cons in terms of global geostrategic agendas - they want a clash of civilizations. Two sides of one coin.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:02 PM
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21. Same coin, Bush no doubt still has Osama's cellphone number
I gather we're openly arming Sunni insurgents in Iraq so they can attack Iran?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:14 PM
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22. ....wonder if junior can wrap his mind around that one?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:47 PM
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23. Bring Them On
His counterpart in Iran a Mr Abu Omar al-Tehrani responded by saying "Bring Them On"

:rofl: :rofl: :hi:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:00 PM
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24. dup thread
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