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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:05 PM
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Bush: US commander to decide Iraq troop levels (not "political figures in Washington")
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 02:06 PM by Barrett808
Source: AFP

CLEVELAND, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush, battling a growing congressional rebellion against his unpopular Iraq policy, rejected lawmakers' calls for withdrawing US forces from the war-torn country.

"Troop levels will be decided by our commanders on the ground, not by political figures in Washington," the president said ahead of remarks here in defense of his beleaguered strategy.

"I fully understand that this is a difficult war, and it's hard on the American people. But I will once again explain the consequences of failure to the American people, and I'll explain the consequences of success," he said.

His comments came as the White House braced for an interim progress report on Bush's escalation of US troop levels in Iraq, with aides calling it merely a "snapshot" amid early signs that it will offer few hopeful signs of success.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070710/wl_mideast_afp/usiraqpoliticsbush
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:08 PM
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1. the script never changes, does it Chimpy?
same ol BS, different Town Hall hand-selected audience.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:17 PM
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18. Cincinnati I could understand. But Cleveland should have kicked his slimy ass
out of town.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:09 PM
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2. bush is NOT a political figure in washington??????? nt
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:10 PM
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3. I'm the commander in chief. I'm the Decider. I'm the Commander Guy.
I'm the President.....oops, PUNT! Guess the megalomaniac in Washington that's been making all the smart moves just outsourced staying the course.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:29 PM
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4. Why don't we just ask all the "commanders on the ground" that he FIRED. n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:42 PM
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7. And the Congress, with supposed control of the purse strings, can effectively do just that
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:35 PM
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5. since when does he listen to commanders on the ground??
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 02:37 PM by alyce douglas
he listens to no one, oh, we have to impeach this sick sick psychotic man. and that comment "it's hard on the American people" he can go to fucking hell on that one, has he losted anyone??? I hate the jerk.

he loves mocking the Congress doesn't he??
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:42 PM
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6. OH. So the 'surge' was a general's idea? Not Bush's?
"Oh hey, its not MY war, its those guys in those uniforms with all those funny ribbons on their chests that keep making me do this!! Make them go away!!!"

Gives a whole new meaning to 'commander bunny pants in chief'
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:43 PM
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8. That leg is getting too long--pull the other one! eom
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:45 PM
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9. Cut of the funds
let the war profiteers pay for your bloody,war.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:59 AM
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26. Right on! nt
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:53 PM
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10. Wasn't it political figures who decided we only needed 150,000 troops in the first place?
Wasn't it the commanders who were recommended twice that number at least?

What hypocrisy.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 08:43 AM
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22. Gen'l Shinseki rings a bell, followed by Paul Wolfowitz saying how absurd the suggestion was.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:15 PM
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11. "the consequences of success"
that's a keeper. one to contemplate. yes, mr. president, what are the "consequences of success"? unfettered access to the oil, without all those troublesome iraqis living on top of it? so the consequences are 1000s upon 1000s of dead, and the stains on all our hands.

*'s fatal flaw is an inability to see beyond binary oppositions. on/off, yes/no, right/wrong, success/failure, good/evil. i blame his god - the one he thinks is answering him - his ego.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:19 AM
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23. Like the chimperror would know "success" if it'd hit him in the face.
He never had any "success" in his entire life appart from those of his "robberies" and "just-in-time cover-ups" using other peoples' monies...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:45 PM
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12. Bullshit!
The War Against Terror (TWAT), and it's stillborn stepchild in Iraq have been 100% political from the very beginning, and they will never be anything else.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 04:48 PM
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13. We need More troops but Bush you don't have anymore
you have used them all up

You don't choose if men and women want to give up their lives
they do
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:23 PM
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14. The rest of the story.
Four years has given the WH time to carefully "weed out," intimidate and silence "commanders on the ground" who might dare speak the truth.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:30 PM
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15. "And if the commander picks the wrong troop levels, we'll get another one." nt
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 06:23 PM
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16. Oh War Czar.....Where You At?
And where the heck has the War Czar been keeping himself lately? Wonder if he is considered DC or one of those generals? This crew just keeps playing their shell game, never accepting any responsibility or admitting mistakes. It really is quite amazing how the American people have not risen up by now and stormed the White House.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:55 PM
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17. That worked real well during Vietnam until they figured out stacking bodies wasn't the answer.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:20 AM
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19. Commanders who will say whatever Chimpolini wants them to say.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:32 AM
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20. so anything that goes wrong will be their fault
How very tidy.
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 07:39 AM
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21. Same old shit
from the same old anus.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:46 AM
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24. "I am a decider!"
Remember that George?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 10:56 AM
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25. Oh really, I vaguely recall a general stating something about
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 10:56 AM by Javaman
needing on the order of 300-500K soldiers to control Iraq.

But at my age and my memory not as sharp as it once was, I maybe just making that up.

:banghead: this helps me think
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