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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:33 PM
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RAF Scrambles To Intercept Russian Bombers
Source: Times Online UK

RAF fighter jets were scrambled to intercept two Russian strategic bombers heading for British airspace yesterday, as the spirit of the Cold War returned to the North Atlantic once again.

The incident, described as rare by the RAF, served as a telling metaphor for the stand-off between London and Moscow over the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

While the Kremlin hesitated before responding to Britain’s expulsion of four diplomats, the Russian military engaged in some old-fashioned sabre-rattling.

Two Tu95 “Bear” bombers were dispatched from their base on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle and headed towards British airspace.



Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2093759.ece
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:37 PM
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1. As 'terra terra terra' fails to evoke enough hysteria, we gonna return to 'Russkie Russkie Russkie'?
The re-winding of the cold war is a worry, but I calm myself with the knowledge that it is the same bastards who make a profit, so it should come as no surprise.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 02:24 PM
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9. the Cold War was
Condi's area of expertise. hate to have all that expertise go to waste! :sarcasm:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:37 PM
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2. Happens a lot but during a media fair it gets reported
I personally know a few former Air Force and Navy pilots who have seen or have been in dozens of these incidents. The pilots usually wave to each other or give the finger but with a smile every time. It's all a game and both sides are just following orders.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:50 PM
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4. We won't even talk about what submarines do....nt
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 05:00 PM
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13. Well, when we give each other the finger
We can't see each other, lol.

-Hoot
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:11 PM
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17. And China wants to pick up where the ex Soviet state fell off its high horse
they still shadow
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 08:37 PM
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18. Too bad our navy is at its smallest since BEFORE the First World War! nt
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 10:27 PM
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21. Expensive fucking game if you ask me. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:38 PM
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3. Saber-rattling? They're p.o.ed at each other over that poisoning last
year.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:14 PM
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5. OXXO and Chipmy's last meeting with Putie Poot
On behalf of the Military Industrial Complex I would like to extend our warmest and deepest appreciation. We look foreword to long and prosperous relationship.

Love and kisses from all of us

oxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxxox

P.S.

Give us a big bear hug you old Putie Poot.

---------

Apparently Chimpy's last meeting with Putin was a great success.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:19 PM
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6. especially if you run a nuclear weapons exercise before
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/US_ran_nuclear_weapons_exercises_week_0706.html

US ran nuclear weapons exercises the week before Bush-Putin summit

Shortly before the so-called 'Lobster Summit' between President George W. Bush and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin in Kennebunkport, Maine, the United States appears to have carried out a significant nuclear weapons exercise, according to a report in Friday's Washington Times.

"International radio operators picked up large numbers of coded Air Force communications being sent around the world on June 26 that indicated some type of military activity was about to take place," writes Bill Gertz in his weekly "Inside The Ring" column.

Gertz suggests that the transmissions, which he called 'extraordinary,' were related to US nuclear forces.

"A U.S. military official said the radio traffic was monitored from the Air Force Global High Frequency System (GHFS) that some observers regarded as 'extraordinary' because of the unprecedented length of messages," he writes. "The messages appeared to be emergency action messages, coded communications sent by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to U.S. Air Force strategic nuclear forces."
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 02:21 PM
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8. Putie Poot really liked the lobster
that Chimpy was feeding him.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 02:04 PM
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7. At 23, im too young to remember the Cold War.
But even an incident as "small" as this scares the shit out of me. I cant imagine dealing with something like the Cuban Missle Crisis. Even to this day, we are all much more likely to die from MAD than a lone suicide bomber at a mall, or a stray nuke from Pyongyang.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 05:52 PM
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15. The Cuban missile crisis was scary to the public,
but not to JFK et al., who had in their possession photographic evidence that the Russian missile silos were not yet operational. In other words, the Soviets had to back down, and JFK knew it.

Later on, MAD between superpowers was successful in avoiding World War Three. I don't worry about MAD between, say, US and Russia. I worry that a terrorist group (not a nation-state) may acquire large quantities of really nasty stuff, like uranium or plutonium, or Anthrax, or Hanta virus. We know what they would do with it. Especially scary are the terrorists who, because of their religious fanaticism, actually want to die while killing others. The doctrine of MAD doesn't apply to them.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 02:34 PM
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10. I hate to introduce a note of sanity here but this is routine
All through the Cold War this happened at least twice a week. The Warsaw Pact would fly some aircraft through the GIUK gap and the RAF would scramble fast jets to intercept.

It's SOP to intercept un-identified jets that look like they are entering UK airspace.

After the 'fall of the wall' the flight frequency decreased, mainly dus to cost, but was not unknown.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 02:50 PM
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11. Realizing that all countries test one anothers'
air and sub defenses, but (cue "Jaws" theme) the Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch's interests, since 1981, IIRC. Is the publication at this time of rather normal probing at all suspicious?
A little drum-beating perhaps? My cynical hat is on tight these days. :think:
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:16 PM
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12. you got it in one
the RAF and the Russian federation use them as training flights, elint and navigation exercises. The fuss is definately overblown. Nothing like stoking up paranoia to sell a few more papers.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 05:23 PM
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14. And the same thing happens under the sea. nt
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 07:57 PM
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16. A blast from the past...
I'm downright dewey-eyed with nostalgia!

:nuke::party::nuke:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 09:46 PM
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19. You mean planes scramble immediately to threats in an airspace?
Funny, I thought a 4-hour response was the best modern air defense systems could handle...
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 10:20 PM
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20. Well we could always have Walmart set up production there,
and then in five years we would be pals with them while they loan us money that they have selling us shit.
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