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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:10 PM
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New Al Qaeda Web Ad Threatens 'Big Surprise'
Source: ABC News

A new al Qaeda propaganda ad, headlined "Wait for the Big Surprise" and featuring a digitally altered photograph of President George Bush and Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf standing in front of a burning White House, was posted on the Internet today.

The brief clip from al Qaeda's "as Sahab" propaganda arm juxtaposes the doctored photo of Bush and Musharraf along with previously seen images of al Qaeda's top leadership -- Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahri and Adam Gadahn -- as well as a photo of an SUV in a motorcade.

There is no additional information provided in the ad, and it closes with the words, "Soon -- God willing," written across the screen and repeated several times.



Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/08/new-al-qaeda-we.html
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:14 PM
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1. I guess Bush would have had to have a warning?
That is to be out of the White House at the time of the event. Just say'n...
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:14 PM
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2. Well here's the first thing I thought of:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 05:52 AM
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31. what happened in that night Gallery episode???!
Enquiring minds want to know!!


AAAughhhh!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:48 AM
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38. that was a good one
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:50 AM
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39. M Night Shanagan's THE VILLAGE had a similar theme: village elders warned of monsters that lurked
beyond the edge of the clearing, but the monsters turn out to be the elders dressed in costumes.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:14 PM
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3. paid for by transfer of US taxpayer money to Saudi Arabia via huge arms deal?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:20 PM
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4. Finally
Going to admit they've been on scrubs payroll.

About damned time.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:31 AM
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28. ...and/or he on theirs.
:eyes:

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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:22 PM
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5. The only folks who dig AQ threats more than Bushco, and the media
is AQ.

Just by making headlines, they instill fear
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:29 PM
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6. It's so nice of them to time their announcements ...
to coincide with BushCo troubles, failures, disasters and low approval ratings. :eyes:
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:50 PM
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10. You mean they have announcements all day, every day? nt
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:06 PM
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13. ? what polls have you been folloing for the past three years ?
A coincidence? the approval ratings are now low?

Maybe the bastards are feeling some heat and are getting desperate with more of the usual hollow threats.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:43 PM
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41. Not just approval ratings - I also included troubles, failures and disasters (political disasters)
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 01:46 PM by BattyDem
Have you been paying attention to the timing of the terror alerts, al-Qaeda videos and other fear-inducing events over the years? Keith Olbermann makes the point better than I ever could.

The Nexus Of Politics And Terror - August 2006

The Nexus Of Politics And Terror - Updated June 2007

The Nexus Of Terror And Politics - Updated July 2007

On edit: Have you seen this thread?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1497131&mesg_id=1497131
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:31 AM
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24. and vacation
isn't he on vacation in August, every August of his administration?

x(

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:12 AM
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27. yeah, i'm getting pretty fucking sick of these AQ threats--don't they
know we got enough problems with bush as it is without them trying to help bush's popularity ratings?

i wish AQ would just stay the fuck out of it!
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:04 AM
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33. Why are you repeating ridiculous right-wing spin here?
Bush's failed so-called war on terror helps the Democrats, not the Republicans.
Cut it out.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:45 AM
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34. It helps the Republicans in as much as
it keeps the bedwetters on his side. There really are people in the US dumb enough to believe that a political party (R's) can protect them from the terrorists hiding under their beds.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:48 PM
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42. Repuke Bedwetters
LOL
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:44 PM
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7. This looks very close to the truth.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:47 PM
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8. an AD ????
ok, that is pretty funny.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:06 PM
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12. That was my first thought, too.
I thought they meant it was a commercial running on "Hannity and Colmes".
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:11 PM
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14. Ya think they would put in a chat room or a forum to get "hits" up eh
WHy don't the 'powers that be' just pull the plug on those sites and shoot a nasty virus their way.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 08:48 PM
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9. Surprise! Bush! Osama! Musharraf! Al-Zawahri! Their thrilling barbershop debut! (nt)
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:02 PM
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11. A big suprise? guess we'll just have to cross that bridge when they get to it
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070802/ap_on_re_us/minnesota_bridge_collapse;_ylt=AsO40RLxfnpOsSsECjIOxR7Za7gF

seriously, they make noise and they strike out in the middle east. Like that "Spring offensive" they pulled off. Like a fine Swiss watch movement. What did they get?
Some peace activists from S Korea trying to give peace a chance
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:45 PM
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15. The neos are just dying to take over all three branches of government.
Hell, we won't have to do anything about do-nothing dems and a stacked supreme court. We'll be under martial law.

Why am I just so suspicious about this 'propaganda ad'?

We need to check and see if Osama has an agent. He makes more movies than Adam Sandler. Maybe we can find him that way.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:50 PM
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16. Can you say Swift Boat?
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 09:52 PM by Oreegone
This was probably put together by the same group that made the Swift Boat ads. Sure looks like their tactics. I mean if they really have a website, doesn't it have a server it comes from? We can't find that, and be on our way of tracking them down?

I don't believe it is real unless the US government gave it to them to put up on their website. So we can prepare for the total annihilation of the constitution.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:19 PM
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17. Right...
Comng next Friday - the "eye-opening" event of the summer!

Puhleeze.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:01 PM
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18. Staged assassination?
It seems to me that that would be an effective way for "Al Queda" to attack America, without the Bush administration and Republicans suffering the backlash of failing the American people and allowing more deaths.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:16 AM
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22. That'd be a great way for the neo con-men to retire
to their private slice of Dubai, without having to suffer through impeachment proceedings and such.
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:19 PM
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19. ...and how are the terrorists and neo-cons not in a league against America?
They are like the barbarians that sacked Rome. They hate each other, but hate the average american family and America even more.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:01 AM
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20. Al Queda is up to something, but who knows what
Bin Laden has a habit of telling people he is up to something in videos like this, but what he is up to he does NOT say. He does do SOMETHING in the Video that when you look back shows he was involved but not enough to show what he was up to BEFORE the attack.

Bin Laden seems to have sent such messages, before 911, before the attack on the USS Cole and before the attack on the US embassies in East Africa. Now this is from my memory, but the reports also indicate that if you looked at the Videos you knew something was up but not what.

Napoleon made a comment (paraphrased here) "To defend everywhere is to defend no where". His point was you can NOT prevent an attack, given that fact, defense should be concentrated on the most likely form of attack and against the most likely enemy. Right now that is bin Laden and Al Queda. The form of attack is going to be something UNLIKE anything before. This can be shown by his previous attacks. He attack our Embassies, we strengthen our embassies, so he does NOT attack embassies again, he goes after a US ship in an Arab harbor (The USS Cole). After the Attack on the Cole, does he try another US Ship? No, he does 911.

Now he has shown some tendency to repeat. It is now believed he was involved with the original bombing of the World Trade Center, but that was by a Truck bomb NOT an air attack. But this show that his target may not change, his tactics to attack that target does change.

What I suspect bin Laden is up to? He has indicated in the past oil is to cheap. He has attacked the oil exports of Saudi Arabia. It is still a tempting target and with so many Saudi volunteering to serve Al Queda in Iraq, he may have a solid core of Recruits to attack the oil exports of Arabia. All he has to do is to get those volunteers BACK to Arabia. A suicide attack on the main Saudi Arabian Oil export site would put Saudi oil off the market for up to 2 years (maybe 3). The real key is how much support does such an attack have from the Shitte population of Arabia which is concentrated in the same area as the oil fields AND the Oil export port. If both Al Queda and the Shiites believe that the only way the US will get out of Iraq will be if there is a world wide oil crisis, destroying that oil export port causes that crisis.

What would Bush do if world wide exports of oil is cut by 10%$ (The Saudi Arabia export number)? The rest of the World in decline (Except for the former USSR and Russian Oil production is expected to start to decline, it is still NOT up to the level of the former USSR just before the USSR collapse). What would Bush do in such a situation? Bush is NOT the type to tell the American People they have to cut back oil usage. Bush is NOT the type to REQUIRE Businesses to cut back oil usage. Bush is not even the type to have the Government cut back oil use. I can see Government by Pelosi, simply because Bush will NOT do anything except Veto bills (with Pelosi getting Congress, including Republicans to override those Vetoes). You talk about Government Crisis, it will make the time since the Democrats took over Congress look like a Honeymoon.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:22 AM
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23. Will it be US holdings, or the US proper. Maybe they are going to
hit the Green Zone.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:32 AM
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25. I do NOT think it will be the Green Zone, to heavy protected.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 01:49 AM by happyslug
A frontal attack on the Green Zone would require a assault of at least regimental size, Al Queda is NOT that large. The best Al Queda could do would be Mortar attacks. If Al Queda can drop 30-60 Mortar rounds on the Green Zone that is not enough to get more than a day's media attention. A couple of hundred Rounds maybe, but then the gunners can be track down by the US forces in Iraq and destroyed by Superior Firepower. I can not rule it out. A series of attacks, with 120mm mortars would do the trick, but that is a lot of people and information about it will leak.

Further to be effective an attack on the Green Zone will have to be over a period of 2-3 weeks with heavy mortar attacks every day (i.e. more than 50 rounds a day). I do NOT think Al Queda has the resources to do that. It does NOT have the men, the Ammunition nor the Mortars. Just because the Iraqi residence has them does NOT mean Al Queda has them. I suspect all the Mortar attacks so far has been much weaker 831mm mortars, the upgrade to 120mm wold increase destruction, but at the cost of having to use more person per mortar AND a larger vehicle to move the Mortar. If I was an Iraqi that is what I would do, launch a series of Mortar attack on the Green Zone, but not if I was Al Queda. If I was Al Queda you want to attack AMERICA, not just its Soldiers. You want the American people to get hurt, not just its military. The best way would be to attack the US addiction to oil and the best way to do that is to cut off exports from Saudi Arabia.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:06 AM
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35. I figured mortar or rocket attacks would be the only way they could
do it. Of course they would have to have good intelligence on targets because they would have to hit and run.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:40 AM
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29. Common cause between AQ and Shiites? Not likely...
The real key is how much support does such an attack have from the Shitte population of Arabia which is concentrated in the same area as the oil fields AND the Oil export port. If both Al Queda and the Shiites believe that the only way the US will get out of Iraq will be if there is a world wide oil crisis, destroying that oil export port causes that crisis.


In The Looming Tower, Lawrence Wright tells how ObL originally relocated to Sudan at the invitation of Hasan al-Turbai, who had just led an Islamist coup and taken over there. Although they would seem to have had a common cause of restoring the Caliphate, their collaboration fell apart over Turbai's insistence that an important preparatory step be the reuniting of the Sunni and Shiite branches of Islam. Osama decided that anyone who would counsel accommodation with the Shiites was evil and not a true Muslim at all. I really don't see any circumstance where al-Qaeda would enter into an alliance with Shiites, even if it was the only way to advance their goals.

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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:01 AM
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32. I said "Common Cause" not Alliance, it be like the US and USSR in WWII
The key to Shiite victory in Iraq is to drive the US out WHILE the Shiite have more power than the Sunnis. Right now that is the case in the Barsa Area (Where most of the oil is). Al Queda wants the US out of the Middle East so it can take over. Thus Al Queda and the Shiites have a Common Enemy, like the US and the USSR had during WWII. That is all I was saying and the extent of the relationship. Sadr had said that when the US pulls out they will be a Civil War in Iraq, but it will be settled in 3-4 months after the US pulls out as the Shiites and Sunni come to some sort of agreement based on the result of the Civil War. Al Queda do NOT like the Shiites, but accepts that will happen some day. The issue between the Shiites and Sunnis is what the truce line be, not that some sort of Truce line be drawn.

As to bin Laden hatred of the Shiites (and anyone not of his Radical branch of Islam), while true, it will NOT prevent him from dealing with them. For example most of the people who did 9/11 had previously served in the Saudi military AND HAD HAD SOME TRAINING IN THE US. Thus he has accepted that one MUST work with one's enemies. He has also written letters (intercepted and made public) where he told Al Queda in Iraq NOT to go after the "Heretics" but to work with them against the US, for the US is the greater evil. Thus my comment, Al Queda views the Shiites like the US viewed the Soviets during WWII, an essential part of the means to defeat their primary enemy (In the case of the US it was Hitler, in the case of Al Queda it is the US). Being needed means it must be tolerated and one must co-operate with it and that is ALL Al Queda is doing regarding the Shiites.

My point was BOTH Al Queda and the Shiite benefit from an attack on Saudi Oil export ports, and the Shiites probably will NOT turn in any Al Queda operatives they discover in that part of Arabia. THis tolerance may permit Al Queda to do what it wants done which appears to be what the Shiites want done to.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:13 AM
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21. Would somebody smite those sonso'bitches already?
Sorry. I'm just really tired of them.
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LIVESIPOG Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:46 AM
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26. wouldnt be surprised if the Cheney had this made
Simply put, Cheney, Bush and their minion would do anything to
keep the fear factor high. Especially with the push on to get
their beloved illegal wire tap program official ,untethered
& unrestricted or overseen by anyone, this makes me
consider the idea that this could be another Neo Con
Propaganda video.   
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:48 AM
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30. Bush-Bin Laden Co. will NEVER attack itself at the White House
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 04:49 AM by tom_paine
This doctored phot is more disinformation propaganda to deflect our knowledge of where the Bush-Bin Laden Co. is going to stage their next attack, and it most certainly WON'T be where the Werstern Bush-Bin Laden Headquarters is.

But the chatter is rising to a fever pitch? I keep wanting to believe this is nothing more than tinfoilhattery, but now that the Royal Bushies desperately NEED a second 9/11 to keep their Totalitarian Tranisition Program moving foreward, as always, they will miraculously get what they need.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:41 AM
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36. How can you tell the *ush misadministration is in trouble??
They trot out bin laden again.

I hate those fucking people.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:47 AM
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37. will some honest CIA people please find the storage locker where Karl Rove produces this crap?
his production values are going way down.
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:54 PM
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40. Wait a f'ing minute. Isn't the guy in the upper right photo the guy
that was on the old Tim Allen sitcom? You know the mechanic on his TV show.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:54 PM
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43. Al Borland!
:rofl:



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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:56 PM
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44. al Qaeda can bite me n/t
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