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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:18 AM
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Bush: Not Involved 'In Any Way' in CIA Leak Probe
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/357662|top|01-01-2004::22:03|reuters.html

President Bush on Thursday sought to distance himself from an investigation into whether someone in his administration illegally leaked the name of an undercover CIA officer.

"I'm not involved with the investigation in any way, shape or form," Bush told reporters here after wrapping up a hunting trip with his father and a family friend.

<snip>

Asked whether Ashcroft had made the right decision in recusing himself from the case, Bush replied: "You're going to have to ask him. I mean, I don't know the details which caused him to recuse himself.

"I've told the members of the White House to totally cooperate," Bush said. "And the sooner they find out the truth, the better, as far as I'm concerned."



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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:23 AM
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:57 AM
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24. Yeah, I trust
him too. He said it so it must be true. :eyes:
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:07 AM
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28. Yup
Your right. He would NEVER lie to us :eyes:
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giantrobot_2000 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:28 AM
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:29 AM
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3. How about Dick Cheney?
Old Dick is strangely quiet...
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:44 AM
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7. They're all going to plead innocent
because the incriminating evidence is gone since it took Asscan this entire time to clean up the place so nothing would be found..
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:30 AM
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4. yea right!
"I don't know the details"

what's new. he dont even know the details of eating a goddam pretzel.

as somebody at DU said, all chimp has to do is demand, as the president of the USA*, the name of the leaker. why have an investigation at all if he's so eager for the truth?
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:58 AM
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40. You're right, professor...
"all chimp has to do is demand, as the president of the USA*, the name of the leaker."

He doesn't mind "demanding" that everyone in the world do his bidding. Every time he opens his mouth he's in demand mode. Why should this be any different? That is, if he really wanted to get to the truth, which of course he doesn't.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:03 PM
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41. Yeah, and don't forget
"the interesting thing about being president, is I don't have to answer to anyone." Or something like that.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:35 AM
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5. I know NUSSINK!
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 12:37 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:11 PM
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43. Advisors to Bush: "Just play dumb."
Bush to advisors: "I think I'm gettin the hang of this!"
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 02:58 PM
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47. great photo! Nnnnuh-tthhhhink!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:36 AM
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6. Oh so Nixonian
the thing that gets me is that this is far worst but the pattern is
oh so similar.
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:27 AM
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25. You are so right
about the pattern. Remember that Reagan and Bush 1 knew nothing about Iran Contra.

"They have lies so big the don't make a noise, they tell them so well like a secret disease." FZ
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:54 AM
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8. He's not involved in the investigation in any way, shape or form...
Does that mean he won't be investigated as a potential source of the leak? It could be him.

He has told the members of the White House (Staff?) to totally cooperate. Does this mean that if he hadn't told them to cooperate, they wouldn't be required by law to cooperate? Or is the operative word "totally?" Maybe they would only have to partially cooperate otherwise?

He knows who leaked just like he knows who mailed anthrax. The neo-cons don't want them exposed or arrested -- until maybe after the election.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:06 AM
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9. Not involved in the investigation
but involved in the leak?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:22 AM
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10. Could be....
Rove's too close to this, and while early reports centered on the involvement of the office of the VP, that doesn't mean Bush didn't talk to Rove about it.

Unfortunately, I don't think there's a one in the bunch with enough scruples to come forward and tell the truth, about how it came about, and what transpired after Ashcroft's determination to give the WH sufficient time to cover tracks. And, that's what it will take to get to the truth of the matter.

Cheers.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:29 AM
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11. Strangely enough, I can believe him on this one
Any time he denies knowledge or openly shirks responsibility for anything except fundraising, it just fits his character so well that I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

"not involved with the investigation in any way, shape or form" sounds about right. "I don't know the details" is also pretty typical.

Rove, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, on the other hand... well, they haven't said shit yet, as far as I know. Don't expect 'em to, either, until they're ready to finger the fall guy.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 02:25 AM
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12. It's called "plausible deniability"...
...and Junior is a "dirty trickster" from way back, especially when it involves what he believes to be revenge.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:01 AM
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15. W has plausible deniability in spades
He seems quite adept at knowing nothing, at all, ever.

Perhaps just a little too adept.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:26 AM
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36. Don't fall for the "He's too stupid to know, bit" He knows about all of
it. He's involved in all the planning. The GOPs whole game plan has to make him appear stupid so that he can be absolved of all involvement in criminal activity.
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:53 PM
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52. Yeah, that COULD be true, but I think he is just a "useful idiot"
You know, put him up there as the puppet when in reality he doesn't know shit about what goes on in his own administration. Then, if the shit hits the fan, he is protected because he honestly wasn't involved. They did it with Reagan and now Bush is their vehicle.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 03:22 AM
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13. Translation: I'm in it up to my eyeballs.
Period.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:45 AM
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14. This is PRECISELY
why I find it so NIXONIAN
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:17 AM
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16. not involved???
this stinks worse than a barrel of texas catfish decomposing in the august sun

of course he's involved and ultimately responsibile for the action of his wrecking crew

during the 2000 campaign - didn't he say something about taking swift action if there were even the hint of a scandal?

all he's done is regarding this scandal and other scandals is to duck and hide in the bushes... not my fault, don't blame me, I know nothing

his excuses are piled higher than MT. Everest
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Trojan Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:18 AM
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18. How Do I make DYNAMITE Information Public in the USA ?
Hello

I spend a lot of time on the BEST site on the Internet, "Democratic Underground" during March 2003. I am now in direct discussions with the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Canada through Dwayne. I have information that will seriously damage George Walker Bush's credibility. My cousin is an American citizen stationed in Iraq as a soldier. I am trying to get him home along with the other Americans being attacked daily in Iraq. Could you help me by suggesting how to bring my information public ? I will send a hot linked copy of my Email of April 1, 2003 that perhaps was the most important letter that I ever wrote in my life. I can be contacted at Warren11@videotron.ca

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:02 AM
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21. drop a note
to WillPitt?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:37 AM
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26. Josh Marshall at Talkingpointsmemo.com.......and if it is that huge
Please watch your back!
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:58 PM
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49. Your best bet, by far, is Bev Harris at blockboxvoting.com
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 05:01 PM by stickdog
She is the consummate professional when it comes to getting out a blockbuster story to the largest possible news audience.

Send her a PM here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=send_mesg&u_id=121879
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:48 AM
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17. like 9-11
the buck stops with you george.
and someday somebody is going to make THAT stick.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:18 AM
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19. Not to defend the Dictator Tot,
But it is very likely that he, indeed, knows nothing of this plot. You would be hard pressed to find another person who has the same outright contempt for knowledge and intellect as bu$h.

He knows precisely what his handlers want him to know at any given moment. Something as complex and sensitive as the Plame business is WAY over his pin head. Letting him know anything about this would have been the equivalent of giving Beavis a flamethrower!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 08:50 AM
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27. But Bush *loves* to get his revenge on people
It's really about the only thing he has a talent for. He just loves screwing over people who he thinks have wronged him. Rove is the same way, which is one reason they get on so well. I tend to believe that, at the very least, he approved of the Plame outing as part of a Wilson smear campaign.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:53 AM
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39. Bush played an "enforcer" role for his father
he was nasty, and people were afraid of him.

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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 06:35 AM
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20. He's an idiot...
The man doesn't even read the newspaper. If his advisors don't tell him, he doesn't know squat.

It's sad, so very sad....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:15 AM
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22. Then he's either too stupid to be president
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 08:11 AM by DoYouEverWonder
or he's lying. Either way he should resign in disgrace.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 07:54 AM
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23. I figured all a long junior was innocent in this leak thingy -
Now that junior has told reporters and others, I'm sure this will take a load off his mind and he'll be able now to do the work the American people want him to do.

Who cares what this liar says!

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:15 AM
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29. He hasn't denied knowing about the leak itself.
Neither has Ashcroft, to my knowledge. If either of them have, I'd like to add them to my sig line.
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:16 AM
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30. Sgt. Shultz
I know noTHING,
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 09:22 AM
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31. Not involved in probe vs not involved in leak - what a dufus!
I am not involved in either - in fact I signed the Moveon affidavit that I didn't leak the name/known who did it. Did W do that? I'd like to know.
What this article sez is: "They are not after me!" Duh!

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:52 AM
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32. One Thing Jr. Is Really Good At
is lying.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 10:54 AM
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33. Um, doesn't this headline describe the PROBLEM?
I mean, if he really wanted to know who in his inner circle leaked the name of a national security asset to the press, how come he doesn't just ask 'em, point blank? And isn't this something he should really want to know, if he's actually, y'know, the Commander In Chief 'n' stuff, and actually concerned to protect the security of the country?

But instead, he has been determinedly "Not involved in any way" since the word first came out back last summer.

Come to think of it, "Not involved in any way" pretty much describes his whole philosophy of life.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:23 AM
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35. I agree.
bush* has had since July to become involved in the effort to expose the TRAITOR hiding in his White House. This TRAITOR has impeded the War on Terrorism and made all US citizens less safe.

bush*s NON-INVOLVEMENT is REMARKABLE. If you were president, and it became known that a TRAITOR was hiding in the White House, would you be "not involved in any way". I would have this traitor's ass in a sling before the sun went down.

bush*s non-involvement is remarkable, and circumstantial evidence of complicity.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:19 AM
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34. "after wrapping up a hunting trip with his father"
such a busy guy...terror alerts,
record bankruptcies, millions of
jobs lost, military deaths daily,
and he is out murdering birds for fun.



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Clyde39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:40 AM
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37. It's amazing how innocent he is about everything
Our country is under attack and he just sits in the classroom reading and smiling! As far as him "demanding the truth"----it's hard not to laugh!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:51 AM
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38. They're going to claim that they knew she was agency but not
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 12:01 PM by oldtimer1942
"undercover." They will say that they couldn't have known because it was classified that she was "undercover".

Ya lie 16 words
and whaddya get?
Some more soldiers killed
and deeper in debt.

St. Peter don't you call me
cause I can't go
I owe my soul
to Haliburton an' oil.
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GRClarkesq Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:06 PM
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42. Right - puts prosecutor in dfficult position
of having to prove the leaker had knowledge of Plame's covert status, not just CIA. Makes prosector's job much more difficult.
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The White Rose Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:46 PM
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45. Wait a minute...
...if Plame was running an undercover network isn't it rather unlikely that she would be advertising the fact that she was a Company employee? Taking that as a given, they can hardly claim that it was common knowledge that she was CIA, and if they knew she was Company, but was pretending not to be, isn't that the definition of "undercover"?
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:03 PM
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50. Well SOMEBODY knew she was undercover.
Perhaps they didn't specifically say it to Novak, but they did tell him not to use her name...but he did anyway. And then, a couple of days later, somebody told the guys at NY Newsday she was undercover.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 12:41 PM
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44. Don't bother him and don't worry, be happy. All is
well in the land of Oz, the Great Oz has spoken.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 01:51 PM
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46. methinks the idiot protests too much
& if he wanted the truth so badly, it's unfortunate he gave Rove 3 months to bury the evidence :eyes:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 04:37 PM
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48. How about telling your staff that if they don't produce the leaker, all of
their heads will roll?

Oh, I forgot. With Bush, the buck always stops elsewhere.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 05:06 PM
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51. All Bu$h has to do
is call a meeting of his entire staff and let them know in no uncertain terms, that he expects at least one letter of resignation on his desk by the morning. End of problem. We should expect nothing less from the President of the United States.

The MBA President? He was going to run this country like a business? Well in my business, when someone breaks the law or even just screws up a job, you can be damn sure I will know by the end of the day exactly who did it and what happened.


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