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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:26 PM Original message |
Secret police force to be set up in Iraq |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sure that torture will be rampant.... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, but it will be in Freedom prisons. n/t |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Ahh yes...silly me...thank you fellow citizen... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's all double-plus good! n/t |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. But of course! |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't see how this constitues a secret police... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. A 10,000 man force run and paid by the CIA... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I wonder how long our tax dollars are going to be paying for 10,000 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. So.... |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. my point is... |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Of course not! Geez...how silly of me to believe such a thing! |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I've never heard of a "not secret" CIA run op, unless you count Ms Plame |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. it's not much of a covert op |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. how will we know? 10,000 force paid for from CIA funds.... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Should I draw YOUR conclusions from a story? |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. the story is unobjective and offers no proof that this |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Which of the FOUR stories do you find "unobjective?" |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Why attack Billy? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. "fairly ruthless" sure sounds like an oxymoron, but that aside, |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
68. You bring up a good point here... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. And this is better than the Baathists, WHY?? nt |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Because...and as Foster Dulles once said.... |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. ipso facto n/t |
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GRClarkesq (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. I thought that was Jeanne Kirkpatrick |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sickening hypocrisy |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. This kind of crap has been going on for over 50 years.... |
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Vitruvius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. And what Empires do abroad, they do at home. Sooner or later. |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That's right! And I was expecting somebody to make that connection.... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
66. I will cherish an explanation of the differences. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. Saddam's way. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. What is this supposed to mean anyway? |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. It means...."RULE BY PROXY".... |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. how is the police force imperialistic if |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Do you understand what the term...."rule by proxy"...means...? |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. yes it means you think.. |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Pffftt....no, its going to be a tool for France.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Excuse me...? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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kalian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Buh-bye.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. The fact that they are run and paid for by the CIA might make one |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. run by the CIA or trained by them... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I'd suggest you read the available information on the subject. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. "CIA officers in Baghdad will play a leading role in directing" |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. need more information.. |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Which one? There are FIVE on the subject linked to in this thread |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-06-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. Yeah, you're right |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is NOT positive news,... |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
45. A fairly long article on the subject |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Frightening article. Worth the read, people. |
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MysticMind (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I trust this article alot more... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It IS imperialist,... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Oh, God,...is anyone passing this on,... |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. great article, thks. |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. yep, liberation |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Wouldn't ya love to pin the neo-cons down,... |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. in the big picture, that is really our job, B*shco has to answer 4 neocons |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. pay attention, this is the model of "democracy" the neo-cons... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. If you couple this with the news of the largest US "embassy" that |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That is a very logical conclusion,... |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. LOL... There I go, drawing my own conclusions again. |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. That kind of independence WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!! |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. There has been an influx of RW illogical talking points of late |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. I don't see why everyone is so concerned about this |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. look man, we just can't connect the dots, OK? what secet? police? wah? |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. I'm sure these will be the Secret Crossing Guards |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-04 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
64. fairly ruthless? |
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AtTheEndOfTheDay (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-05-04 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
69. Perhaps they can call it SAVAK |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-06-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. ?? That one went over my head... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-06-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. The shah of Iran's old secret police |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-06-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Thanks, daleo. Makes sense now. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-06-04 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
74. Looks like the Sunnis are about to become... |
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