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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:19 PM
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CNN vows caution in calling 2004 races
Jan. 6, 2004  |  LOS ANGELES (AP) -- CNN anchorman Wolf Blitzer made an election year prediction: The news channel will be a model of caution in using exit polls to call races.

"If we're not confident a million percent we got it right we're not going to go on the air. ... We're going to wait and wait and wait," Blitzer told a meeting Tuesday of the Television Critics Association. "Only when we have every reason to believe that this is a done deal will we go on and make that exit-poll projection."

In 2000, flawed information led TV networks to prematurely call the presidential election. Voter News Service, created by major news organizations to count votes and conduct surveys, subsequently was disbanded.

Instead, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and The Associated Press signed a contract with two veteran polling experts to conduct exit surveys during the 2004 presidential election.

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/01/06/cnn/index.html
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:23 PM
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1. Breaking: CNN announces Bush wins!
And he is too smart so stop saying that!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:21 AM
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13. CNN continues to propagandize poll data....one had Dean down 5%
to shrub....but now they show one 20+ down a day later..
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:24 PM
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2. No, it wasn't flawed information....
it was flawed voting machines.

The exit polls were correct in showing that Gore was carrying Florida handily.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:23 PM
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5. Absolutely, which is why they deep-sixed the exit polls
The pre-election polls in the 2002 run-offs were also correct in predicting heavy Dem wins. Funny how they all reversed the day of the vote and gave the Repubs heavy wins. Just magic, I guess.
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raifield Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 10:24 PM
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3. Yeah
I mean, don't ever take the numbers for granted. You never know what might happen all of a sudden, unexpected...if it looks like Bush may not have a second term, that is.

If it looks comfortably like he will win, feel free to correctly predict.

Signed,
Karl Rove
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:20 PM
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4. Without exit polling
we'll have no way of knowing what the results really are. There were no flawed results in 2000. The exit polling indicated correctly that people intended to vote for Al Gore in very large numbers, but the "butterfly ballot" made it nearly impossible to cast a vote for him. Flawed information my hairy rear end!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:48 AM
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6. "We will not declare a winner until the GOP tells us to"
that's what he's really saying
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:59 AM
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11. Yes, they have so many ways to steal the election we have to wait
until they exhaust all efforts to win. If the computer voting doesn't do it they have a backup plan and that will take a while to get into place so the news can't say Bush wins until the election is officially stolen.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:54 AM
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7. veteran polling experts? veterans of what, poppy bush's old CIA?
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 12:55 AM by truthisfreedom
who are these "veteran polling experts?"
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BenFranklinUSA Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:44 AM
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16. Will there be "competing" exit-polling group(s)?
Will other news orgs shut out of this (i.e. NYT, WSJ, NPR, etc.) get together to provide "alternative"?
Prob not a bad idea.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 12:56 AM
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8. oh, really ... seeing that Pat Robertson has already called it!
With his wretched God-told-me-Bush-would-win routine.

And to think the exit polls probably had it right, last time.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:53 AM
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12. What will Pat say if Bush loses?
God fucked up?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:40 AM
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9. Yep. Because you can't count on exit polling to match what the
fraud-made-easy machines predetermine.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 02:54 AM
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10. does bush cousin ...
still work for Fox? John Ellis, I mean ... Dubya's first cousin, who was responsible for calling the "winner" for Fox News.

I'm sure the BFEE will make sure some squirrelly family member is involved in some network's election decision team in Nov. 2004.

With the head of Diebold voting machine co. saying he's going to "deliver the vote" for Dubya ... and Jebby-Poo still in Fla. governorship, and god-knows-which BFEE cretin behind the scenes at the networks ... well, they'll have another election theft all set to go.

Oh, and they'll have Ah-nuld to pummel and grope the votes out of citizens in Cal-ee-fore-nee-ya.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:31 AM
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14. I thought they already called it. -eom-
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:00 AM
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15. Translation:
"We will continue to whore for bu$h with every breath we take."

What Wolf's statement means to me is that he, at least, is afraid that bu$h may come out on the losing end this time! I love the smell of media fear in the morning...

:argh:
dbt
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:52 PM
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17. But Will Continue Whoring For Bush 24/7
and will not report on Diebold, and will continue to trash democratic candidates, especially the final nominee insuring a win for Bush in 04
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:34 PM
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18. They'll renege
The networks have made these kinds of promises before and quietly weaseled out of them by october. The more that I think about it I think the RNC protestors in New York should make CNN and FOX targets as well.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:10 PM
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20. Why renege when they can lie with a straight face ...
... and still claim they're adhering to the 'policy we set out a year before the election to ensure accuracy ...' :puke:


:hippie:
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:47 PM
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19. Will it be like the 2002 sham?
I don't believe I actually ever saw them project the West Virginia Senate race (Rockefeller (D) won handily).
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