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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 09:34 PM
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NATO Staggers in Afghanistan as Some Can't Fight On, Some Won't
Source: Bloomberg

Oct. 8 (Bloomberg) -- NATO's campaign in Afghanistan is under threat from member countries on the front lines clamoring to get out and others on the sidelines refusing to go in.

With military casualties on the increase this year, the Netherlands and Canada are weighing full or partial pullouts within the next 18 months. Meanwhile, leaders in Germany, France, Spain and Italy, mindful of polls showing a majority of Europeans oppose the conflict, are resisting calls to send troops to relieve them.

. . .

As the U.S. military hunkers down in Iraq, President George W. Bush is trying to shift more of the Afghan burden to Europe. The U.S. remains the dominant force in Afghanistan, with 15,000 soldiers under NATO command and another 11,000 in a separate counterinsurgency mission. Britain, which is shifting forces from Iraq to Afghanistan, now fields 6,700, the second-largest contingent.

. . .

Canada's 3,000-strong contingent has suffered more than 70 dead, on a par with Britain. With resentment brewing over the performance of other allies, the war may now claim a political casualty: Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

The three opposition parties that hold a majority in the House of Commons are pressing Harper to pull the troops out by February 2009. Confidence votes in late October may bring down the government and force new elections.

War fatigue has gripped Europe, with the public troubled by the guerrilla fighting with no fixed front lines or exit strategy and by constant hostage-takings and casualties.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=apkSErUd9Z8k&refer=us
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 12:53 AM
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1. To bad, we can not have a confidence vote...
To bring down, the Nazi Pig Bush.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 01:02 AM
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2. Notice how the article implies the Taliban are responsible for the
increasing opium production in Afghanistan, even though they had shut down poppy growing and the drug trade for religious reasons before the US invaded.


One index of the Taliban's resurgence is the opium harvest, which rose 38 percent to a record 8,200 tons this year. Afghanistan produces 93 percent of the world's opium, the UN says, warning that the Taliban-infested southwest is taking on the traits of a narco-state.


However, a former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan says what he witnessed when he was stationed in the region was large scale drug smuggling of heroin by the US/NATO, war lord allies in the Afghan government.


Britain is protecting the biggest heroin crop of all time

By CRAIG MURRAY

SNIP

Our economic achievement in Afghanistan goes well beyond the simple production of raw opium. In fact Afghanistan no longer exports much raw opium at all. It has succeeded in what our international aid efforts urge every developing country to do. Afghanistan has gone into manufacturing and 'value-added' operations.

It now exports not opium, but heroin. Opium is converted into heroin on an industrial scale, not in kitchens but in factories. Millions of gallons of the chemicals needed for this process are shipped into Afghanistan by tanker. The tankers and bulk opium lorries on the way to the factories share the roads, improved by American aid, with Nato troops.

How can this have happened, and on this scale? The answer is simple. The four largest players in the heroin business are all senior members of the Afghan government – the government that our soldiers are fighting and dying to protect.

SNIP

President Karzai is a good man. He has never had an opponent killed, which may not sound like much but is highly unusual in this region and possibly unique in an Afghan leader. But nobody really believes he is running the country. He asked America to stop its recent bombing campaign in the south because it was leading to an increase in support for the Taliban. The United States simply ignored him. Above all, he has no control at all over the warlords among his ministers and governors, each of whom runs his own kingdom and whose primary concern is self-enrichment through heroin.

My knowledge of all this comes from my time as British Ambassador in neighbouring Uzbekistan from 2002 until 2004. I stood at the Friendship Bridge at Termez in 2003 and watched the Jeeps with blacked-out windows bringing the heroin through from Afghanistan, en route to Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=469983&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:15 AM
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3. who'd have known!
Erm, everybody? The Dutch are in Uruzgan, a province of Afghanistan. So far we've had 11 deaths (5 accidents, one suicide, 5 combatrelated deaths) and already we're screaming: "We need to get out!"

Most of the people now know we're there for fighting the Taliban because Bush wants us to. It was never a 'rebuilding-operation'.
Also, we get regular national-news-reports on how the crop are outperforming everything else in Afghanistan, including OBL.

The Dutch soldiers are trying to get their asses out, but our government is trying to stick its head up Bush's ass even further. Only an assassination can save us now! (oh no, it can't. They're all in on it, dems as well! We're fucked both ways...)

And wasn't Karzai a boardmember to a big oilcompany?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:49 AM
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5. our government is trying to stick its head up Bush's ass even further
It must be getting crowded inside the Bush ass. The French PM and Canada's PM are both trying to get their heads in there too. I have to wonder if Dubya isn't feeling somewhat constipated by now?
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:53 AM
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6. maybe he can outsource some of his ass-space
to Israel.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:44 AM
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4. shift the burden to Europe so Dimson can focus on his pet project
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