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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:40 AM
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Homeless Families in New York Lose a Loophole
Source: nytimes



October 11, 2007
Homeless Families in New York Lose a Loophole
By LESLIE KAUFMAN

Beginning tomorrow night, the city will stop giving emergency shelter to families who are reapplying for a place to stay after being ruled ineligible, officials said yesterday.

The decision means that families who apply for benefits but are turned down — usually because the city believes they can stay with a friend or a relative — will find themselves without shelter as they reapply one or two more times.

The toughening of the policy, which follows a rise during the summer in the number of families given emergency shelter in free public apartments, was criticized as cruel by advocates for the homeless and by some of the people it will affect. But it was defended by officials as a necessary tightening of a munificent policy that was being repeatedly abused by a few families.

The city had allowed families who had been ruled ineligible to be given shelter for one night if they reapplied after 5 p.m. Some families using this emergency provision would keep their belongings with them and repeat the process, moving to a new shelter the next day, often late at night, the city said.
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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/nyregion/11homeless.html?hp=&pagewanted=print
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:22 AM
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1. My favorite part of the article:
"The city’s decision is the latest turn in the Bloomberg administration’s long-running efforts to reduce homelessness in the city."

So by simply telling people that they are not homeless, they are no longer homeless!
Brilliant plan!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:11 AM
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2. It's easier then doing something constructive about it
And sadly, he'll find many people to support him.

Every region of the world has it's easy targets...But it seems that the homeless are a target in every part of the world.
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:13 AM
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3. He could've took Regan's approach to homelessness
and just denied it by saying, "What homeless people?".
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:39 AM
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4. I don't even have words to convey my disgust
And I was starting to consider him a decent person too...
Oh well, once a evil gop bastard....
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:11 AM
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5. We would rather spend American dollars making more people homeless in the world than
helping those that are homeless. I am sure it is because we are a "Christian Nation" No way would Christ ever have wanted to help anyone that had lost their home.He would have insisted we use Nukes instead..
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:17 AM
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6. why would you enact this policy in October?
why would you enact this policy any time of the year?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:45 AM
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7. This gets to the heart of the matter:
Grisel Rivera, 26, who says she has been using the emergency overnight system with her 6-year-old daughter, Jayda, since July, says the city has her case all wrong. The city says she can return to the one-bedroom apartment of a friend. She says the friend, who has a boyfriend and a child of her own, does not want her and has sent a notarized letter saying as much.

“Most of us can’t go to the last place we were,” she said. “If we could we’d be there already.” Asked what she would do tomorrow night, she said: “I’ll have nowhere to sleep. My daughter will have nowhere to sleep.”


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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:13 PM
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8. "The city believes they can stay with a friend or a relative"?
Let me see if I've got this straight. You, as a New Yorker, are now under some sort of obligation to let a "friend" (no matter how loosely defined) -- and perhaps her children as well -- move in to your presumably already cramped New York apartment?

Oh, right, I forgot. All New Yorkers, especially those who have friends who are homeless, live in fabulous mansions off Fifth, like Mikey does. :sarcasm:

Coming up next: Someone gets evicted because Mikey forced them to take in someone who wasn't on the lease. Count on it.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:30 PM
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9. And How
can the City determine this? :wtf:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:49 PM
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10. I can't believe the headline -- in the lib'rul Times, yet! -- says "loophole"!
Try "Homeless Families in New York Lose a Last Resort".
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