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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:08 AM
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STOCK MARKET WATCH, Thursday October 25
Source: du

STOCK MARKET WATCH, Thursday October 25, 2007

COUNTING THE DAYS
DAYS REMAINING IN THE * REGIME 453
LONG DAYS
DAYS SINCE DEMOCRACY DIED (12/12/00) 2476 DAYS
WHERE'S OSAMA BIN-LADEN? 2196 DAYS
DAYS SINCE ENRON COLLAPSE = 2157
Number of Enron Execs in handcuffs = 19
ENRON EXECS CONVICTED = 10
Enron execs conveniently deceased = 3
Other Arrests of Execs = 54



U.S. FUTURES & MARKETS INDICATORS
NASDAQ FUTURES-----------------------------S&P FUTURES





AT THE CLOSING BELL WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE on January 22, 2001
Dow - 10,578.24
Nasdaq - 2,757.91
S&P 500 - 1,342.90
Oil - $27.69/bbl
Gold - $266.70/oz.


AT THE CLOSING BELL ON October 24, 2007

Dow... 13,675.25 -0.98 (-0.01%)
Nasdaq... 2,774.76 -24.50 (-0.88%)
S&P 500... 1,515.88 -3.71 (-0.24%)
Gold future... 765.60 +2.50 (+0.33%)
30-Year Bond 4.64% -0.05 (-1.09%)
10-Yr Bond... 4.33% -0.07 (-1.68%)






GOLD, EURO, YEN, Loonie and Silver



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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:13 AM
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1. Market WrapUp is back up. It's a just a few days late.
HANK'S HOUSE OF HORRORS
BY ROB KIRBY


U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson recently proposed the establishment of a $75bn-plus ‘superfund’ to buy unwanted asset backed commercial paper in hopes of accelerating the return of ‘liquidity’ to the marketplace.

Mr. Paulson’s proposal has been endorsed by financial market heavy-weights J.P. Morgan Chase, Citibank and Bank of America.

I’d like to examine how we got here in the first place.

As evidenced in the charts of U.S. money supply growth below, Central Banks around the world have been creating money at a blistering pace for better than 10 years:

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Folks should understand that the act of printing new money dilutes the existing monetary stock.

When monetary authorities who are responsible for the world’s reserve currency (the Federal Reserve) undertake such action – the results are unpleasant and ruinous but predictable.

Actions like this undermine global confidence or willingness to hold the currency being debased.

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n very simple terms – all money created or loaned into existence, IS spent on something.

In response; during the 1990s we witnessed the rise in price of equities in general and technology stocks in particular.

Rising interest rates in or about the year 2000 served to ‘prick’ the bubble in tech stocks but, as we can clearly see in the charts above, money creation continued unabated.

Next up was real estate.

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:16 AM
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2. Today's Reports
8:30 AM Durable Orders Sep
Briefing Forecast 2.0%
Market Expects 1.5%
Prior -4.9%

8:30 AM Initial Claims 10/20
Briefing Forecast 320K
Market Expects 320K
Prior 337K

10:00 AM Existing Home Sales Sep
Briefing Forecast NA
Market Expects NA
Prior 5.50M

10:00 AM New Home Sales Sep
Briefing Forecast 780K
Market Expects 775K
Prior 795K

http://biz.yahoo.com/c/e.html
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:45 AM
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14. 8:30 reports - Initial Claims @ 331,000 - Durable Orders fall 1.7%
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 08:30 AM by UpInArms
14. U.S. continuing jobless claims up 7,000 to 2.53 mln
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

15. U.S. 4-week avg. jobless claims highest since Sept. 1
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

16. U.S. Sept. durable goods inventories up 0.4%
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

17. U.S. 4-week avg. jobless claims up 7,750 to 324,750
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

18. U.S. Sept. defense goods orders fall 39%
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

19. U.S. weekly jobless claims down 8,000 to 331,000
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

20. U.S. Sept. durable-goods shipments fall 2%
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 11 minutes ago

21. U.S. Sept. core capital equipment orders up 0.4%
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 13 minutes ago

22. U.S. Sept. durable goods orders ex-transportation up 0.3%
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 13 minutes ago

23. U.S. Sept. durable orders fall 1.7% vs. 1.1% gain expected
8:30 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 13 minutes ago

(edited to fix the initial claims number in my title line)
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:03 AM
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15. Lots of bad news
I hear Merril Lynch has got some horrifying numbers and Dow too. I think the masses may be in for a bit of a shock soon, when the real reckoning begins.

Julie
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:18 AM
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20. Orders for big-ticket goods fall again
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

WASHINGTON - Orders for big-ticket manufactured goods unexpectedly fell again in September, raising new worries about how much harm a severe housing slump and credit crunch are causing the overall economy.

The Commerce Department reported Thursday that orders for durable goods dropped 1.7 percent last month following an even bigger 5.3 percent plunge in August. It marked the first back-to-back declines in more than a year and took economists by surprise. They had forecast new orders would rebound by 1.5 percent in September.

The September drop reflected weakness in such areas as autos, fabricated metals, computers and electronics products, and electrical appliances.

The decline in manufacturing orders followed several other reports showing economic weakness, including continued steep slides in sales of existing homes and reports from banks and investment houses that they were having to take big write-offs due to losses in such areas as mortgage-backed securities.

Reports about those losses in August had caused the worst credit crunch in nearly a decade as the market for many kinds of investments nearly dried up as bond holders became worried about the safety of their investments.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:03 AM
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30. Weird Home Sales Reports In:
01. U.S. Aug. new-home sales revised to 735,000 vs. 795,000
10:00 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 2 minutes ago

02. U.S. Sept. median sales price up 5% in past year
10:00 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 2 minutes ago

03. U.S. Sept. new-home inventory 8.3 months vs. 9 months
10:00 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 2 minutes ago

04. U.S. new-home sales rise 4.8% after big downward revisions
10:00 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 2 minutes ago

05. U.S. Sept. new-home sales 770,000 vs. 758,000 expected
10:00 AM ET, Oct 25, 2007 - 2 minutes ago

Why the big revision for August and the weird huge number for September? What will September's revision be?

stay tuned for more lies from our government....
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:22 AM
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3.  Oil prices extend rise in Asia
BANGKOK, Thailand - Oil futures rose Thursday in Asia, extending a price increase that came after figures showed large and unexpected declines in U.S. crude and gasoline inventories last week.

Light, sweet crude for December delivery rose $1.08 to $88.18 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange by late afternoon in Singapore. The contract jumped $1.83 to $87.10 a barrel in the Nymex floor session after the fuel report.

Crude supplies fell last week 5.3 million barrels, the U.S. Energy Department's Energy Information Administration said. Analysts surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires, on average, had been expecting supplies to increase 300,000 barrels.

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Much of the decline in crude supplies was due to a sharp drop in imports, analysts said. Daily imports of crude oil fell last week 1.3 million barrels to an average of 9.1 million barrels a day, the EIA said.

Supplies of gasoline and heating oil also fell last week. Gasoline inventories dropped by 2 million barrels, countering analyst expectations for an increase of 1.1 million barrels.

Gasoline imports also fell last week, and average daily demand for gasoline rose 120,000 barrels, the EIA said, further supporting prices.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/oil_prices
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:50 AM
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27. U.S. oil above $88 on supply concern
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSSP21758220071025

LONDON (Reuters) - Oil rose $1 to above $88 a barrel on Thursday, after a slide in U.S. oil stocks renewed fears of an energy crunch during the northern hemisphere winter.

But the market handed back some of its gains after unexpectedly weak U.S. economic data. The world's biggest energy consumer reported a surprise drop in orders for durable goods and a smaller-than-anticipated decline in new jobless claims.

At 9:22 a.m. U.S. crude was up $1.44 at $88.54 after a brief test of $89 earlier in the session brought it within striking distance of the $90.07 peak it reached last Friday.

London Brent was up $1.33 at $85.70, having hit a record $86.28 during the London morning.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:59 AM
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47. BP to pay record $50 million criminal fine: sources
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2519389420071025?sp=true

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government on Thursday will announce a record $50 million criminal penalty against London-based BP Plc for a massive explosion at its Texas City refinery that killed 15 people in 2005, sources familiar with the deal said.

The fine for the refinery explosion would be the biggest criminal penalty levied under the Clean Air Act, eclipsing a $34.7 million criminal fine that Refrigeration USA paid in 1997.

Under the deal, expected to be unveiled by federal officials in Washington and Houston, BP will also have to pay a record $303 million civil fine to settle unrelated charges that it manipulated U.S. propane markets in 2004.

The Justice Department and Environmental Protection Agency said they will hold a news conference at 1:00 p.m. EDT.

Officials from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, FBI and Department of Transportation's pipeline safety regulator are also expected to attend.

BP is facing a raft of federal charges, including manipulation of U.S. propane markets in 2004 and a pipeline leak at its Prudhoe Bay field in Alaska in 2006.

...more...
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:25 AM
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4.  Bank of America to eliminate 3,000 jobs
CHARLOTTE, N.C. - After a tough third quarter, Bank of America Corp. has become the latest bank to slash jobs due to poor results brought on by the unrest in global credit markets.

The nation's second-largest bank said Wednesday that it is cutting 3,000 positions in its investment banking unit, a day after crosstown rival Wachovia Corp. starting eliminating several hundred positions for the same reasons.

Bank of America's announcement came less than a week after it reported a 32 percent drop in third-quarter earnings, as trading losses and write-downs on a wide variety of loans offset solid revenue growth in most businesses.

The cuts will affect less than 2 percent of the company's staff. Most of them will be from Bank of America's Global Corporate and Investment Banking unit, the company said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_bi_ge/bank_of_america_job_cuts
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:27 AM
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5.  Chrysler contract closer to ratification
STERLING HEIGHTS, Mich. - The United Auto Workers and Chrysler LLC got a big boost from some Detroit-area plants that voted in favor of a new labor contract, but the road to ratification is still a bumpy one with thousands more workers scheduled to cast ballots in the next few days.

Much is now riding on votes set for Friday and Saturday in Belvidere, Ill., where 3,815 Chrysler hourly workers are employed at an assembly plant and a metal stamping plant. Belvidere is the last major complex where workers will be voting.

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Workers at Local 1700 approved the contract by just over 65 percent, President Bill Parker said, despite Parker's vocal opposition. Parker didn't say how many workers had voted. Local 1700 represents 2,500 workers who make the Chrysler Sebring and Dodge Avenger midsize cars at the Sterling Heights assembly plant.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_bi_ge/auto_talks
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:29 AM
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6.  Chinese economy closes in on Germany's
BEIJING - China's supercharged economy grew by a stunning 11.5 percent in the third quarter, slowing slightly amid authorities' efforts to avert overheating but staying on track to overtake Germany as the world's third-largest within weeks, according to data reported Thursday.

Growth beat economists' forecasts but was below the 11.9 percent rate the previous quarter. The government said its repeated rate hikes and other controls were finally taking effect.

"Due to macro-economic controls, we have turned the economy from being an overheating one to being one of speedy growth," said a spokesman for the National Bureau of Statistics, Li Xiaochao, at a news conference to announce growth figures.

The communist government wants to maintain fast growth to ease poverty but worries that runaway expansion or overspending on factories and other assets could ignite a financial crisis. Beijing has raised interest rates five times this year to curb double-digit investment growth, and analysts expect another rate hike later in the year.

The latest figures suggest China's growth surge has peaked, economists said. They said they expect the expansion to slow further while staying above an annual rate of 10 percent next year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071025/ap_on_bi_ge/china_economy
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:20 AM
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54. Shanghai drops on rate rise fears
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ft/20071025/bs_ft/fto102520070621520290;_ylt=AhJYa_2l8eV1R6NohJ5dPl72ULEF

Chinese shares fell by nearly 5 per cent on Thursday on concerns about further interest rate rises and the launch of a potentially record-breaking initial public offering by PetroChina (NYSE:PTR).

The Shanghai composite index dropped 4.8 per cent to 5,562 points, the biggest one day drop since July, and has now fallen 9 per cent from the record high it reached last week.

However, Chinese share prices are still up 90 per cent since the start of the year and few analysts on the mainland believe that the downward movement of the last week is the start of a prolonged bear trend.

"It is true that there are no longer any stocks that are significantly undervalued now," said Li Xianming, analyst at Ping An Securities in Shenzhen. "Nevertheless, the two key fundamentals for a bull market still exist - the appreciation of the renminbi and corporate earning growth. This is not a turning point for the market."

The announcement on Thursday that the Chinese economy is continuing to surge ahead at a rapid rate, growing 11.5 per cent in the third quarter against 11.9 per cent in the second quarter, prompted speculation that the government will take further measures to try and cool economic activity.

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:32 AM
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55. Markets are not reflecting China, U.S. risks - HKMA
http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20071025:MTFH23182_2007-10-25_10-16-52_HKG171995&type=comktNews&rpc=44

HONG KONG, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Monetary conditions in China and a slowing U.S. economy pose risks to investors which are not being reflected in bullish financial markets, especially in Hong Kong, the head of Hong Kong's central bank said on Thursday.

Joseph Yam, chief executive of the Hong Kong Monetary Authority (HKMA), said rising interest rates in China, aimed at restraining inflation, are boosting capital inflows and raising concerns about a possible stock market bubble.

"It is not clear how this scenario might develop," Yam wrote in a weekly column on the HKMA's Web site www.info.gov.hk/hkma/eng.

"The inevitable market adjustment, if sharp and destabilising, would have serious implications for monetary and financial stability, not just for the mainland but also for others, including of course Hong Kong."

China and the United States are Hong Kong's two biggest trading partners, but Yam said the risks they posed were not reflected in the local stock market -- which has rallied nearly 50 percent this year.

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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:36 AM
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56. China stock bull getting older, but won't die
http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlebusiness.aspx?type=ousiv&storyid=2007-10-25T060312Z_01_SHA69120_RTRUKOC_0_US-CHINA-STOCKS-BULL.xml&WTmodLoc=BizArt-R3-Insights-1&from=business

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Former U.S. central banker Alan Greenspan has predicted a "dramatic contraction". France's securities regulator warned of a "brutal" pull-back. Even billionaire investor Warren Buffett says the market is too rich for him.

But almost two years into one of history's greatest bull runs, China's roaring stock market continues to defy forecasts of disaster by the financial world's leading lights.

With Shanghai's main index up five-fold since the start of 2006, and stock valuations sky-high, local fund managers and analysts agree the market will slow in coming months.

But they think there's still plenty of money to be made from stocks over the next year -- and that predictions of a crash of 20 or 30 percent are way off the mark.

"Pressure on the market has increased a lot so its rise will slow," says analyst Qian Qimin at Shenyin & Wangguo Securities, one of the biggest Chinese brokerages.

"But the market isn't reversing -- and a collapse just isn't going to happen."

Foreign investors hold under 2 percent of Chinese shares, so local players such as Shenyin & Wangguo -- as well as the Chinese government -- may have the last word. Continued...

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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:32 AM
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7. Ford readying new round of buyouts: sources
DETROIT (Reuters) - Ford Motor Co and the United Auto Workers union have agreed on the broad terms of a new round of buyouts that would slash thousands of jobs under the terms of a new contract, people familiar with the ongoing talks said.

Contract negotiations between Ford and the UAW have been moving slowly after the union extended its previous contract at the No. 2 U.S. automaker so it could focus on wrapping up labor deals with General Motors Corp and Chrysler LLC.

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Ford, widely seen as the weakest of the three embattled U.S. automakers, has already made it clear it will push for deeper concessions from the union than those offered General Motors Corp or Chrysler, a position negotiators made clear in early talks, according to two people briefed on the talks.

In addition, Ford has indicated it was looking for about 8,000 to 10,000 additional factory job cuts, one of those briefed on the negotiations said. That would be in addition to the 27,000 UAW jobs Ford had cut as of June.

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An additional 10,000 job cuts would mean Ford would have cut some 45 percent of its factory jobs as part of a turnaround plan in response to a protracted decline in its U.S. sales.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=OBR&Date=20071024&ID=7691004
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:37 AM
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8. Buffett Sees Subprime Woes Lingering
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/10/25/ap4260230.html

DAEGU, South Korea -

American billionaire investor Warren Buffett said Thursday that problems in the U.S. subprime mortgage market will likely weigh on consumers for up to two years, but that the U.S. economy will weather the storm.

The subprime problem "is having an impact," Buffett said on his first visit to South Korea. "It will have more of an impact."

Rising default rates among U.S. mortgage holders with poor credit histories have rattled global credit, stock and currency markets since August and raised concerns about a possible recession in the U.S. economy, a major export market for Asian companies.

"In the next 6 months, one year, two years the problems in the mortgage market can cause a lot of problems with consumers and hurt buying power in the United States," he said at a press conference after arriving earlier in the day from China on his private jet.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:40 AM
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9. Home builders: Worst is yet to come
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The battered markets for real estate and home building still have farther to fall, according to a range of economists who spoke Wednesday at a forecast conference sponsored by the National Association of Home Builders.

The economists agreed that the problems with home finance markets will continue to hit housing into next year, and that even when there is a recovery, it will be a slow process that will see weakness continue into 2009.

While most said they believed the overall U.S. economy can weather the housing downturn, several saw significant risk of a recession. Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody's Economy.com, said that large areas of the country will fall into recession, if they haven't done so already.

The economists also admitted to being surprised by how bad the housing downturn has become, and all said that making forecasts of a recovery is difficult due to the problems in the credit markets.

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Thomas Lawler, a former Fannie Mae official who is now a private housing and finance consultant, said the easy financing terms of the boom years have been replaced by an overly restrictive lending environment. But even when underwriting standards return to more normal conditions, it won't be enough to lift demand and prices back to peak levels, he added.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/24/news/economy/builders_forecast/index.htm?postversion=2007102414
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:45 AM
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10. Giant tax overhaul to be unveiled Thursday
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A bill representing the "mother of all tax reforms" is set to be revealed Thursday, according to House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel (D-NY).

But Mother is going to have to be patient. No one expects Congress to deal with a tax overhaul this year - especially one estimated to cost $1 trillion.

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But with any "revenue-neutral" bill, there's no free lunch. The tax cuts proposed must be paid for by provisions that raise revenue. In Rangel's bill, there are likely to be welcome tax cuts for both individual and corporate taxpayers, but just as many unwelcome tax hikes for some.

Here are some expected highlights:

AMT repeal: The premier feature of Rangel's bill is expected to be a full repeal of the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT), estimated to cost more than $800 billion.

More generous tax credits for lower-income taxpayers: Rangel's bill is expected to call for a higher earned income tax credit for low-income couples without children and would make more of the child tax credit refundable. When a credit is refundable, that means taxpayers claiming it could get money back even if they don't make enough money to owe income tax.

Lower corporate tax rate: The bill is likely to call for a reduction in the top corporate income tax rate from 35 percent to as low as 30 percent.

Eliminate various corporate tax breaks: The complexity of the corporate tax code is almost without measure, in part due to the myriad tax deductions and credits that often favor some industries or products over others. Policy experts expect Rangel's bill will call for the elimination of a host of those tax breaks.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/24/pf/taxes/rangel_tax_reform_preview/index.htm?postversion=2007102506
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:48 AM
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11. early market futures
06:23 am : S&P futures vs fair value: -0.9. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +4.6.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:51 AM
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12. Good morning Marketeers.
:donut: :donut: :donut:

It's time for me to get outta here. My students need some attention.

Have a great day!

Ozy :hi:

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:01 AM
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13. But we are your students too.
Will have to wait for tomorrows lesson
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:07 AM
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17. Morning Marketeers......
:donut: and lurkers. And the car saga continues. Hubby will be talking to a lawyer today. He contacted the witness and he said he will be willing to testify if needed. Hubby will be in his cast for at least 6-8 weeks. We looked at his calendar and he has 6 shows (at least) have to be canceled (2 are weddings :( ). He works 1 day a week as a sub and he had to cancel today for therapy and meeting an attorney and he may be missing others unless he can get afternoon appointments. He is still ok with his lessons (which are in the evening), a few things are problematic, but it is ok. It is a pretty open and shut case-we just don't want to get dicked around by the insurance company.

I was watching the markets yesterday when it 'rallied'. Seems like pinning you hopes on a potential rate cut is a poor foundation for a rally. I think the FED is getting painted in a corner and eventually business needs to suck it up and take their medicine. To postpone it will only make it worse.

Happy hunting and watch out for the bears.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:42 AM
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39. AnneD-- hope your Hubby is OK. n/t
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:09 AM
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44. Hubby is doing well.....
it will take us a while to get righted, but we will eventually. We've been in worse positions.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:58 AM
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58. Good to hear! Not so good on my end, though.
Just talked to the vet.

They've done diuresis with a full litre of fluid which is a lot for a cat and the fact the enzyme levels didn't drop that much is a sign of "end stage" kidney failure. He said it's likely at least 2/3 of her kidney is now hard tissue. It's also likely we're talking weeks...maybe months for Lucky. ..............

.....


So.....

As for what to do now....

Lucky will be on a special diet. A moist version of "k/d Feline" and sometimes sprinkling a powder over it that adds better flavoring and contains electrolytes to give her more energy. This moist food will get more fluids in her diet to help keep the rest of the kidney from turning to hard tissue. I'll also be taking her up to the vet for sub-cutaneous fluid injections about every two weeks to aid with diuresis, too.

But, it's just a matter of time now...and I'll be keeping an eye on her for deterioration again. It could happen right away or she could surprise us go a long time but the main thing is to just make sure she's comfortable. And to start preparing for .... well....you know. :-(

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 01:53 PM
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63. Human or Animal.....
We never know how long our time on Earth will be. She may have problems and go suddenly or she may be able to live for a while. If you love her as much as I am sure you do...Lucky will let you know.

Enjoy these bonus days and count them as a blessing. Be sure to have a nice picture taken and some snapshots-they will give you lots of comfort when she is no longer with you. It can be a good learning experience for your children.

In my lifetime I have lost our special friends many way. And of all those ways-putting them down is the most gentle. I and my daughter have arranged a time and held our friends as they pass. The Vet's staff has always understood an gave us as much time as we need to say our goodbyes. We have made the appointment toward the end of the day. The vets can make arrangement (cremation, etc). You have the luxury of time to decide what is best for you.

I wish Lucky the best. She really is lucky to be a member of your family.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:24 PM
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67. Thank you, Anne...
:hug:

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Buttercup McToots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:03 AM
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16. USD $77.23 @ 9:02 am
Good Morning:donut:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:14 AM
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18. 52 week low: $77.093 on 10/22/07
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:16 AM
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19. dollar watch
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=i

Last trade 77.165 Change -0.351 (-0.45%)

US Dollar Tumbles As Futures Start To Price In A 50bp Cut

http://www.dailyfx.com/story/bio1/US_Dollar_Tumbles_As_Futures_1193264019853.html

After a choppy afternoon of trading, the US dollar finished the day very little changed despite the release of extremely gloomy housing data. Existing home sales plummeted 8.0 percent to 5.04 million during the month of September - the lowest reading since the National Association of Realtors started keeping records in 1999. Single family home sales fared the worst, as they declined 8.6 percent from the month prior, while condo/coop sales fell 4.3 percent as tighter lending standards and higher mortgage rates make it more difficult to get financing. Meanwhile, supply levels rocketed to 10.5 months while the median price on total existing home sales dropped to $211,700 from $224,400. With inventory levels growing and demand clearly waning, it appears that prices will continue to fall much lower. While the greenback didn’t necessarily take the news to heart, fixed income traders apparently did as Fed fund futures now price in an 86 percent chance of a 25 basis point cut on October 31st. Though this is slightly lower than yesterday, futures are also starting to price in a 14 percent chance of a 50 basis point cut at the end of the month as it becomes clear just how dire the housing situation has become, especially in regards to its detrimental effects on the US economy. The New Home Sales release on Thursday will likely reinforce that sentiment, as the index is predicted to plummet 3.1 percent to 770K. However, dismal news from the hosuing sector will not be entirely surprising to the markets and as a result, traders may focus more on the Durable Goods Orders release instead. The headline figure is predicted to improve 1.5 percent and will likely be buoyed by the transportation component, as Boeing reported that orders picked up to 132 in September from 75 during the month prior. Excluding this factor, durable goods orders may only rise a more tepid 0.7 percent, but any surprisingly strong figures could prove beneficial for the Dow, while the US Dollar may continue to be plagued by Fed rate cut speculation.

...more...


How Vulnerable Is The Dollar To Another Credit Crunch?

http://www.dailyfx.com/story/topheadline/How_Vulnerable_Is_The_Dollar_1193313903320.html

It has been little more than two months since global markets were roiled by a collapse in the US subprime debt market prompting emergency liquidity infusions from the world’s largest central banks. Nevertheless, much of the losses from the massive flight from risk have been virtually erased. Does this hearty return of risk appetite suggest that the worst of the credit crunch is behind us? Or, could we experience another, perhaps more painful period of contraction?

A Tumultuous Summer

It has been little more than two months since global markets were roiled by a collapse in the US subprime debt market prompting emergency liquidity infusions from the world’s largest central banks. Nevertheless, much of the losses from the massive flight from risk have been virtually erased. Does this hearty return of risk appetite suggest that the worst of the credit crunch is behind us? Or, could we experience another, perhaps more painful period of contraction? What will happen to the dollar, already at record lows and still vulnerable to further Fed rate cuts? To better understand what is at risk, it is important to recount the fallout from July and August, review what steps were taken to buttress the markets and analyze what risks still loom on the horizon.

The turn in global markets happened innocuously enough in mid-July. Though the equity, debt and FX markets were ominously correcting at the same time; their initial losses were modest. The gradual change in global investor sentiment through the summer began in the US as fears that the subprime mortgage sector was on the verge of collapse were suddenly realized. The first major casualty of a rise in subprime defaults was Bear Stearns’ High-Grade Structured Credit and High-Grade Structured Credit Enhanced Leveraged Funds. However, it wasn’t until hedge funds and banks outside the US borders reported losses from investments related to American mortgage backed securities that panic peaked. And, when the fuse of fear was lit, concern spread rapidly to all assets that were considered risky or otherwise overbought. In the currency market, the carry trade suffered extreme volatility and massive drawdowns. To grasp the change in market conditions, volatility in USDJPY (one of the most liquid carry trades) surged from an all-time low to a five year high in a matter of weeks. In terms of price action, the top yielding carry trades saw substantial declines: NZDJPY plunged 24 percent; AUDJPY sank 20.1 percent; EURJPY dropped 11.6 percent and USDJPY fell 10.1 percent. Equities saw similar extremes. The VIX volatility index jumped from 13 year lows to its highest level since the dot com bubble burst. In the fray, the Dow lost 10.7 percent. Proving the markets are truly global, the Nikkei dropped 16.6 percent and the FTSE 100 fell 13.8 percent in sympathy.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:20 AM
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21. Buffett sees dollar weakness - YIKES!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/buffett_korea_dc

DAEGU, South Korea (Reuters) - Billionaire investor Warren Buffett said on Thursday he expected the dollar to weaken further, adding that South Korean stocks offered better value than other world markets.

Buffett, worth $52 billion according to Forbes magazine in March, said his Berkshire Hathaway (BRKa.N) company is still on the hunt for bargains as the U.S. subprime mortgage crisis plays out.

"We are still negative on the dollar. We bought stocks in companies that are earning their money in other currencies," he told reporters during a visit to Berkshire's Korean cutting tool maker subsidiary, TaeguTec.

Berkshire Hathaway, which owns more than 70 businesses and has some $100 billion of stock and bond investments, has a stake in only one listed South Korean company, the world's fourth-biggest steelmaker POSCO (005490.KS). Berkshire said in March it held a 4 percent stake in POSCO as of the end of 2006.

"We are gaining foreign currency exposure that we like," said the veteran investor, known as the "Oracle of Omaha" for his astute investments.

The U.S. currency has lost 23 percent against the South Korean won since the end of 2003, hit by accumulating current account surpluses in South Korea and a steady inflow of portfolio investment into the country's financial markets.

International Monetary Fund Managing Director Rodrigo Rato said on Monday the U.S. currency was still overvalued and that there was room for further depreciation.

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:15 AM
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33. Warren Buffett is on WS investor I believe in....
and even he doesn't stay on WS:eyes:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:52 AM
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28. Dollar nears record low vs euro after durables data
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSN2330660920071025?sp=true

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The dollar fell closer to a record low versus the euro on Thursday after a report showed an unexpected fall in September durable good orders, bolstering the view a slowing U.S. economy will prompt a cut in U.S. interest rates next week.

Investors will now look to U.S. new home sales for September to help gauge the extent of the crumbling housing market and the impact of tighter credit conditions.

"The headline (durable orders) number is a bit disappointing," said Nick Bennenbroek, head currency strategist at Wells Fargo Bank in New York. "On the other hand, we have housing numbers still coming out today and the markets seem more sensitive to that."

The euro gained 0.5 percent to $1.4330, less than half a cent off Monday's all-time highs. Dollar/yen was last down 0.1 percent at 114.07, well of the day's high of 114.57 yen.

Sentiment toward the U.S. economy soured further on Wednesday after Merrill Lynch & Co. (MER.N: Quote, Profile, Research) became the latest Wall Street firm to report poor quarterly earnings as a result of problems in credit markets and existing home sales fell to a record low in September.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:28 AM
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22. pre-opening blather
09:15 ET Market is Closed S&P futures vs fair value: +1.9. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +6.6. Futures take a dip, but still point to a slightly higher start. The AP reported that the Bush administration is imposing new sanctions on Iran.

09:01 ET Market is Closed S&P futures vs fair value: +2.9. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +9.6. The S&P futures market has recovered from its slight dip and is now trading at its pre-economic release levels. Nasdaq futures are holding steady.

09:01 ET Market is Closed S&P futures vs fair value: +2.9. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +9.6. The S&P futures market has recovered from its slight dip and is now trading at its pre-economic release levels. Nasdaq futures are holding steady.

08:32 ET Market is Closed S&P futures vs fair value: +0.6. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +10.3. Futures dip following two economic reports. Just reported, durable orders for September dropped 1.7%. Initial jobless claims for the week ended 10/20 dropped to 331k. Durable orders were expected to rise by 1.5%. Initial claims where expected to come in at 320k.

08:32 ET Market is Closed S&P futures vs fair value: +0.6. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +10.3. Futures dip following two economic reports. Just reported, durable orders for September dropped 1.7%. Initial jobless claims for the week ended 10/20 dropped to 331k. Durable orders were expected to rise by 1.5%. Initial claims where expected to come in at 320k.

08:00 ET Market is Closed S&P futures vs fair value: +4.0. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +11.6. The stock market is expected to start the session on a high note. Motorola (MOT) and Aetna (AET) topped their earnings expectations. Symantec (SYMC) beat its earnings estimates, but issued downside guidance. Dow Chemicals (DOW) fell short of its earnings estimates. The durable goods and initial jobless claims economic reports will be released at 8:30 ET
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:42 AM
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23. 9:41 EST Reality Bites - no winners at the open
Dow 13,651.35 23.90 (0.17%)
Nasdaq 2,766.47 8.29 (0.30%)
S&P 500 1,512.55 3.33 (0.22%)
10-Yr Bond 4.341% 0.01


NYSE Volume 188,836,406.25
Nasdaq Volume 187,600,921.875
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:45 AM
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24. Frantic Fed Pumping Action: Fed undertaking 7-day repo, then overnight repos - after a $6 B 14-day!
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSNYG00080820071025

NEW YORK, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve said on Thursday it was undertaking a 7-day repurchase agreement, to be then followed by an overnight repurchase agreement, to add temporary reserves to the banking system.

Federal funds were trading steady at 4.75 percent in the market after the operations were announced, matching the 4.75 percent target rate the Fed sets.

Earlier, the Fed added $6.0 billion in temporary reserves via a 14-day repo.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #24
29. The latest repurchase operation brought the total Fed injection for the day to $25 billion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSNYG00080920071025

Fed adds $19.0 bln in temporary reserves in 7-day repo

NEW YORK, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve said on Thursday it added $19.0 billion of temporary reserves to the banking system through a 7-day repurchase agreement.

Federal funds were trading steady at 4.75 percent in the market after the operation amount was announced, matching the 4.75 percent target rate the Fed sets.

The Fed said collateral accepted in the operation was $8.615 billion in Treasury debt, $3.73 billion in agency debt and $6.655 billion in mortgage-backed securities.

A total of $59.15 billion in bids were submitted for the operation.

Earlier, the Fed added $6.0 billion in temporary reserves via a 14-day repo. The latest repurchase operation brought the total Fed injection for the day to $25 billion.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:36 AM
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38. Fed adds $6.0 bln temporary reserves in overnight repo - total of $31 bln now
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSNYG00081020071025

NEW YORK, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve said on Thursday it added $6.0 billion of temporary reserves to the banking system through an overnight repurchase agreement.

That was the third operation of the day and brought the combined total Fed open market injections into the money markets on Thursday to $31 billion.

Federal funds were trading steady at 4.75 percent in the market after the latest operation, matching the 4.75 percent target rate the Fed sets.

The Fed said collateral accepted in the operation was $6.0 billion in Treasuries.

A total of $72.85 billion in bids were submitted for the operation.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:00 AM
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48. Fed adds $31 bln reserves: biggest day in 2 weeks
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2554565720071025

NEW YORK, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve on Thursday added a total $31 billion of temporary reserves to the banking system via repurchase agreements, its biggest daily open market injection in two weeks.

On October 11, also a Thursday, when multiple open market operations are common, the Fed added a total $35.5 billion of temporary reserves to the banking system.

Thursday's three operations were a $6 billion 14-day repo, a $19 billion 7-day repo and a $6 billion overnight repo.

Federal funds were trading steady at 4.75 percent in the market after Thursday's operations, matching the 4.75 percent target rate the Fed sets.

Over the past two weeks, the fed funds effective rate, a weighted average of the rate at which banks lend to each other in the U.S. overnight money market, has traded close to the target rate, in a sign that strains in this part of the short-term lending market are abating somewhat.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:46 AM
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25. Canada dollar hits 33-year high against soft US$
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2546689020071025

TORONTO, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The Canadian dollar shot to a
33-year high against a broadly weaker U.S. dollar on Thursday,
as oil and gold prices firmed, giving the commodities-based
currency a boost.

Domestic bonds rose after some weaker-than-expected U.S.
economic data, and ahead of a report on U.S. new-home sales,
which could provide give more clues as to the U.S. Federal
Reserve's direction for monetary policy when it meets next
week.

At 9:17 a.m. (1317 GMT), the Canadian dollar was at 96.50
Canadian cents to the U.S. dollar, or US$1.0363, up from
Wednesday's close of 96.91 Canadian cents to the U.S. dollar,
or US$1.0318.

The Canadian dollar touched US$1.0403 shortly after the
release of U.S. durable goods data, which came in much weaker
than expectations. It was the highest level for the Canadian
dollar since May 1974.

"The (U.S.) dollar is weaker across the board on a G10
basis," said Dustin Reid, senior FX strategist at ABN-AMBRO in
Chicago.

...more...
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:50 AM
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26. Roots of credit crisis laid at Fed's door
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/roots-credit-crisis-found-feds/story.aspx?guid=%7B7920B361%2D26CD%2D4241%2D9797%2D72E182F13FE6%7D&dist=MostReadHome

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- In the wake of the financial market turmoil that arose over the summer and even now threatens to push the U.S. into recession, there has been a remarkable lack of finger-pointing so far over the cause of the crisis.

But one observer, Tom Schlesinger, the founder and executive director of the Financial Markets Center, a think tank that has followed the Federal Reserve closely for the past decade, believes the blame for the crisis falls squarely on the Fed and accuses the central bank of "regulatory foot-dragging" that has harmed the public.

Schlesinger maintains the Fed's prevailing regulatory philosophy has shifted from that of 20 or 25 years ago, which in essence was "here is the line between right and wrong, don't cross it," to a current underlying policy that "anything and everything that might be called financial innovation ought to be embraced."

"This is a very faulty premise that deserves debate and reflection and ultimately, in my opinion, a changed perspective," Schlesinger said in an interview with MarketWatch.

He points specifically to the opposition to government regulation that flourished at the U.S. central bank under former Fed chief Alan Greenspan and has continued unabated under his successor Ben Bernanke.

At the time Bernanke was preparing to succeed Greenspan, Schlesinger predicted his biggest challenge would be the aftermath of Greenspan's laissez-faire approach to regulation.

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:13 AM
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31. Might be worth bookmarking.....
I found an interesting site that might be worth checking out. It looks good but may be worth checking out.

http://www.investorsguidewiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

I would love feedback, but it looks good.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #31
35. on the page under Self-Regulation
http://www.investorsguidewiki.com/wiki/The_Curious_Phenomena_of_Self-Regulation

Due to the conflict of interest that is inherent in self-regulation, it is prudent for investors to maintain a degree of skepticism in dealing with FINRA. Again, FINRA is not a government regulatory agency and it is not an investor advocacy organization, despite any of its representations to the contrary. It may function in ways that mimic such entities but the distinctions between a self-regulatory organization and a government agency or true advocacy organization are significant.

Dealings with brokerages and other financial institutions are unique in that significant wealth is transferred from its owner(s) to another as caretaker or fiduciary. Serious harm can result if the broker or firm breaches its duties. The risks related to the decision regarding which broker and firm to trust are great. You can literally lose everything if you choose poorly. Thanks to the power of “margin” or the ability to borrow from brokerages, you can conceivably lose more than all the money you have. It is well worth your time to carefully consider the firm(s) you choose to do business with and learn as much as possible about industry practices before investing. Remember: it is far easier to lose money with a brokerage firm than it was for you to acquire or earn it.


emphasis mine

:hi:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #35
43. Yeah....
I am such an optimist now :eyes:......

that was the first section I read :P
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:15 AM
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32. 10:14 EST All's Well in the Land of Lies and Printing Presses
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 09:15 AM by UpInArms
Dow 13,703.05 27.80 (0.20%)
Nasdaq 2,779.32 4.56 (0.16%)
S&P 500 1,519.14 3.26 (0.22%)
10-Yr Bond 4.335% 0.004


NYSE Volume 594,915,937.5
Nasdaq Volume 461,138,468.75

10:05 am : Just reported, September new home sales came in at an annualized rate of 770k, which is up from August's revised reading of 735k. This is less than the consensus estimate that expected an annualized rate of 775k.

The conumer discretionary (-0.9%) and industrial (-0.9%) sectors are the main laggards. Utilites (+0.7%) and consumer staples (+0.2%) are the only sectors in postive territory.DJ30 -25.20 NASDAQ -12.47 SP500 -3.53

09:45 am : The market opened flat following dissapointing economic reports and mixed earnings results, but then quickly slipped into the red.

Better than expected results and guidance from the likes of Motorola (MOT), Aetna (AET) and EMC (EMC) has helped offset disappointing results from Symantec (SYMC) and Dow Chemicals (Dow).

On the economic front, durable orders for September, a leading indicator of manufacturing activity, dropped 1.7%. A rise of 1.5% was expected. Meanwhile initial jobless claims for the week ended 10/20 dropped to 331k, which is 6k less than the previous week. Economists expected the jobless claim reading to come in at 320k.

Looking ahead, The Department of Commerce is set to release September new home sales at 10:00 ET. Briefing.com expects new home sales to drop to an annualized rate of 780k. DJ30 -21.78 NASDAQ -7.73 SP500 -2.77
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #32
34. Our theme today.......
Crimson And Clover
Tommy James and the Shondells
(T. James/P. Lucia)

Ah, now I don't hardly know her
But I think I could love her
Crimson and clover

Ah when she comes walking over
Now I've been waitin' to show her
Crimson and clover over and over

Yeah, my, my such a sweet thing
I wanna do everything
What a beautiful feeling
Crimson and clover over and over

Crimson and clover over and over
Crimson and clover over and over
Crimson and clover over and over
Crimson and clover over and over

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:30 AM
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36. so how long will it take for anyone to do the math on those home sales?
you know - where last month's numbers were revised downward by 60,000 and this month's numbers were 10,000 under the projection?

looks to me like those number are getting worse, not better :shrug:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #36
42. That's what I mean ...
about being painted in a corner. You might be able to lie about the numbers ever other month or so, and you might even be able to re adjust when no one is looking............

BUT one day you look up and almost 1/2 of the houses on your street have a for sale sign in the yard and it is the same on every street you travel on. It is starting to look bad and even here in Houston where the Houston Area Realtors say thing are good (?) we are loosing $540 million due to the RE Bust this year according to ACORN.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:34 AM
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37. Falling real estate could cost up to $4 trillion: report
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2538746920071025

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Real estate wealth is expected decline anywhere from $2 trillion to $4 trillion out of a previous valuation of roughly $21 trillion when the total costs of recent credit crunch are tallied, the New York Times reported on Thursday, citing economists.

And financial firms could face aggregate losses of some $400 billion from expanding troubles related to the subprime mortgage market fallout, the paper said.

That is higher than the roughly $240 billion in financial institution losses from the savings and loan crisis of the early 1990s, adjusted for inflation, the paper said.

The losses in real estate wealth, while large, are substantially less than what investors suffered in the stock market collapse earlier this decade, which erased more than $7 trillion, or about 40 percent of market value, the paper said.

However, the recent declines are likely to have a significant impact on consumer spending, since owners will not be able to cash out as much equity from their property, the paper said.

It said the economists' loss estimates for both real estate and financial firms are preliminary and could get much higher.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:43 AM
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40. Mattel to recall 12,000 toys in Britain, Ireland (are they leaving them on the shelves here?)
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/mattel-recall-12000-toys-britain/story.aspx?guid=%7BE7ACBA32%2D6F9D%2D42C9%2DBDC0%2D19265EB92329%7D&dist=hplatest

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Mattel, Inc. (MAT: 20.92, +0.02, +0.1%), the world's largest toymaker, is recalling 12,000 toys in Britain and Ireland due to the excessive amount of lead paint they contain, a European Commission official said Thursday. The official said Mattel called late Wednesday to let the commission know about the recall. Consumer Commissioner Meglena Kuneva said in a statement that the fact the commission had been informed of the recall before it happened means the intensive work of the past few months is paying off. "In this way the commission is able to provide advice to companies on the recall process if necessary" and to circulate information rapidly about the dangerous good, she said. This fourth recall comes as the commission is in the final stages of a two-month review of the consumer product mechanisms in place in Europe.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 09:57 AM
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41. 10:56 EST numbers and trader mocking blather
Dow 13,699.64 24.39 (0.18%)
Nasdaq 2,774.73 0.03 (0.00%)
S&P 500 1,518.84 2.96 (0.20%)
10-Yr Bond 4.362% 0.031


NYSE Volume 1,019,572,062.5
Nasdaq Volume 805,089,062.5

10:30 am : The stock market has enjoyed a healthy bounce following the release of the Spetember new home sales report.

The response, frankly, is questionable considering the level of new home sales for the month on an annualized basis (770K) was only in line with the consensus estimate. Additionally, the headline indicating 4.8% growth from the prior month only looks encouraging on the surface. In fact, the growth reported is due to the August new home sales data being revised down 7.6% to an annualized rate of 735K.

In any event, traders took the seemingly encouraging headline and ran with it.

DJ30 +44.55 NASDAQ +4.41 SP500 +4.36 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1177/1430/515 mln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1349/1541/212 mln


emphasis mine
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #41
51. It's an odd day when the blather mocks...
:o

:rofl:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:56 AM
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45. AIG debt protection costs rise 55 percent - is there a nasty surprise in store for AIG?
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2544437420071025

NEW YORK, Oct 25 (Reuters) - The cost to insure the debt of American International Group Inc (AIG.N: Quote, Profile, Research) surged 55 percent on Thursday, after bond insurer MBIA Inc (MBI.N: Quote, Profile, Research) reported a third-quarter loss due to the declining value of credit derivatives, raising concerns AIG may have similar exposures.

MBIA's loss has raised the sensitivity of AIG's derivative exposures, said Scott MacDonald, director of research at Aladdin Capital in Stamford, Connecticut. "It has generated a little bit of nervousness about what their earnings will look like."

AIG is expected to report third quarter earnings next month.

Credit default swap spreads on AIG widened to 57.5 basis points, or $57,500 per year for five years to insure $10 million in debt, from 37 basis points at Wednesday's close, according to Markit.

The third-quarter loss by Merrill Lynch (MER.N: Quote, Profile, Research) on Wednesday, caused by a $7.9 billion write down or mortgage and related securities, has raised concerns about the mortgage exposures of other financial institutions.

...more...
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:39 AM
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69. Yes and for all the rest too...Stay tuned.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:58 AM
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46. Moody's set for more nasty bank subprime surprises
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSL2581308720071025?sp=true

FRANKFURT, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Credit rating agency Moody's is poised for further subprime-related surprises from banks and expects financial markets to remain nervous about bank exposures for months to come, it said on Thursday.

Moody's downgraded its ratings on Merrill Lynch (MER.N: Quote, Profile, Research) on Wednesday and warned it could suffer further after it increased its write-downs on mortgage-related securities to $7.9 billion, just two weeks after saying they would be $4.5 billion.

The rating agency said surprise loss revelations, prompted by the difficulty banks are having in estimating losses on subprime-related assets on their books, may strike again.

"Merrill Lynch was a victim of that, but we don't believe they were the only ones," Moody's senior vice president Lynn Exton told a financial conference.

"As news comes out, we will be taking ratings actions as necessary," said Exton, who is responsible for large UK and Benelux banks at Moody's.

Credit rating agencies tell investors how likely a bank or business is to default. A cut in ratings raises borrowing costs and is embarrassing for the company in question.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:02 AM
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49. 12:00 EST and the markets experience the reality of gravity
Dow 13,647.86 27.39 (0.20%)
Nasdaq 2,745.07 29.69 (1.07%)
S&P 500 1,510.95 4.93 (0.33%)
10-Yr Bond 4.356% 0.025


NYSE Volume 1,536,838,375
Nasdaq Volume 1,172,530,250

11:30 am : The stock market has been choppy since the release of the new home sales report. Currently, the Nasdaq is in negative territory, while the S&P and Dow holding near the unchanged mark.

In commodities, crude oil futures continues to gain, and are currently up 1.8% to $88.70. Gold is up 0.7% to $771.00 DJ30 +0.41 NASDAQ -7.47 SP500 +0.79 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1282/1473/947 mln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1339/1713/443 mln

11:00 am : The stock market has slipped off its housing data induced highs. Despite the dip, the indices are still well above their session lows that were reached just just prior to the data release.

In other news, Bank of America (BAC 47.53, +0.05) stated that it is going to eliminate 3,000 positions in a restructuring move that will also include a strategic review of its Global Corporate and Investment Banking business following its woeful performance in the third quarter. The cuts will affect less than 2% of the firm's 198,000 employees. Punk Ziegel notes that the cutbacks may be a mistake. DJ30 +33.33 NASDAQ +1.51 SP500 +4.25 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1197/1501/773 mln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1206/1768/347 mln


:wtf: Who is "Punk Ziegel" and why should anyone care what he/she/it thinks?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:09 AM
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53. A Pink Floyd/Clash fusion band?
:D

Description :
Punk, Ziegel & Company is a specialty investment bank which provides a full range of research, equity market making and corporate finance services centered around high growth sectors within the health care technology and biotechnology industries. The investment bank is setting up a nano stock index and is particularly interested in the area.

From: http://www.nanovip.com/node/397
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:03 AM
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50. Loonie Watch
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 11:04 AM by TrogL
Highlights

Current:



30-day and 90-day vs.greenback:



30-day vs. Euro, Yen, UK Pound and Swiss Franc




Currency Comparison: http://members.shaw.ca/trogl/looniewatch.html

Detailed analysis: http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?r=CME_CD

Up-to-the-minute graph: http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=CME_CD.Y%24%24&v=s&w=5&t=l&a=1

Historical values http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/CAD/data30.html

2007-09-24 Monday, September 24 0.998901 USD
2007-09-25 Tuesday, September 25 0.9995 USD
2007-09-26 Wednesday, September 26 0.99552 USD
2007-09-27 Thursday, September 27 0.99691 USD
2007-09-28 Friday, September 28 1.00412 USD
2007-10-01 Monday, October 1 1.00715 USD
2007-10-02 Tuesday, October 2 0.9998 USD
2007-10-03 Wednesday, October 3 1.00392 USD
2007-10-04 Thursday, October 4 1.002 USD
2007-10-05 Friday, October 5 1.01885 USD
2007-10-08 Monday, October 8 1.01885 USD
2007-10-09 Tuesday, October 9 1.01564 USD
2007-10-10 Wednesday, October 10 1.01906 USD
2007-10-11 Thursday, October 11 1.02627 USD
2007-10-12 Friday, October 12 1.02701 USD
2007-10-15 Monday, October 15 1.02501 USD
2007-10-16 Tuesday, October 16 1.0227 USD
2007-10-17 Wednesday, October 17 1.02712 USD
2007-10-18 Thursday, October 18 1.02743 USD
2007-10-19 Friday, October 19 1.03767 USD
2007-10-22 Monday, October 22 1.01926 USD
2007-10-23 Tuesday, October 23 1.03381 USD
2007-10-24 Wednesday, October 24 1.02987 USD


Current values

http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?r=CME_CD)


Market Open High Low Last Change Pct
CD.Y$$ Cash 1.0378 1.0394 1.0342 1.0342 +0.0035 +0.34%
CD.Z07 Dec 2007 1.0385 1.0404 1.0325 1.0345 +0.0038 +0.37%
CD.H08 Mar 2008 1.0340 1.0347 1.0335 1.0347 +0.0042 +0.41%
CD.M08 Jun 2008 1.0283 1.0283 1.0247 1.0303 -0.0041 -0.40%
CD.U08 Sep 2008 1.0300 1.0302 1.0300 1.0299 -0.0041 -0.40%
CD.Z08 Dec 2008 1.0300 1.0300 1.0290 -0.0041 -0.40%
CD.H09 Mar 2009 1.0055 1.0060 1.0050 1.0281 -0.0041 -0.40%



Other combinations:


AU.Z07 AUSTRALIAN $/US$ Dec (NYBOT) 0.89630 +0.00165
HY.Z07 CANADIAN $/JAPANESE YEN Dec (NYBOT) 117.640 +0.925
GB.Z07 EURO/BRITISH POUND Dec (NYBOT) 0.6987 +0.0010
EP.Z07 EURO/CANADIAN $ Dec (NYBOT) 1.38530 +0.00725
EJ.Z07 EURO/JAPANESE YEN Sep (NYBOT) 162.380 +0.685


Blather (from http://quotes.ino.com/exchanges/?r=CME_CD)

The December Canadian Dollar was higher overnight as it consolidates above the 10-day moving
average crossing at 1.0283. Stochastics and the RSI are overbought, diverging but are turning
bullish again signaling that sideways to higher prices are possible near-term. Upside targets are
hard to project if December extends this fall's rally into uncharted territory. Closes below the 20-
day moving average crossing at 1.0203 would confirm that a short-term top has been posted. First
resistance is Tuesday's high crossing at 1.0390. First support is the 10-day moving average
crossing at 1.0283. Second support is the 20-day moving average at crossing at 1.0203.


Analysis

The greenback, loonie and Euro are still in uncharted territory. The Yen is still crashing.

As bolded above, the loonie briefly crossed $1.04. I'm still calling for $1.05 or higher by month-end.

The Premier of Alberta announced in a TV broadcast last night that Alberta will be gradually raising the royalty rates for oil production at the Oil Sands. He's trying to walk a fine line between people pissed off at the oil companies getting all the money, and oil companies threatening to walk if there's any change in royalties.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:06 AM
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52. Canadian Dollar Pulls Back From 34-year High Versus Greenback
http://news.ino.com/headlines/?newsid=102520071205

7 minutes ago

(RTTNews) - The Canadian dollar was little changed in volatile dealing versus the greenback Thursday morning, jumping to a fresh 34-year high before giving back its early gains. The loonie rose to .9612 by 10 am ET, but quickly reversed course after the data revealed that US new home sales unexpectedly rose last month.

Thursday morning, the Department of Commerce released its report on new home sales in the month of September, showing that new home sales increased compared to a downwardly revised reading for the previous month.

...

The loonie lost ground to the euro Thursday morning, slipping to 1.3860 from an early high of 1.3772. Traders considered data showing that German business confidence declined for the sixth straight month in October.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:52 AM
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57. European shares end up on telecoms, US rate hopes
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=eurMktRpt&storyID=2007-10-25T163336Z_01_L25606862_RTRIDST_0_MARKETS-EUROPE-STOCKS-UPDATE-3.XML

LONDON, Oct 25 (Reuters) - European shares ended higher on Thursday, boosted by telecom stocks after robust earnings from France Telecom (FTE.PA: Quote, Profile , Research) and by growing expectations for further U.S. rate cuts after more weak economic data.

France Telecom was the top percentage gainer on the FTSEurofirst 300 <.FTEU3> of top European shares, rising 8.7 percent after reporting strong results, and lifting UK mobile rival Vodafone (VOD.L: Quote, Profile , Research) and fixed-line group BT (BT.L: Quote, Profile , Research).

The FTSEurofirst ended the day 1.13 percent higher at 1,567.10 points, taking its gains for the year to date to 5.6 percent and showing a near 10 percent rise from an eight-month low in August when the credit markets first ran into trouble.

Stocks got a boost from data on new U.S. home sales that showed a fall in inventory of homes and a rise in sale prices, but a surprise fall in monthly orders for durable goods there tempered gains.

The U.S. Federal Reserve is widely expected to cut rates to 4.50 percent next week, and a string of weak economic data and mixed corporate earnings have prompted investors to prepare for monetary policy to loosen further next year to encourage growth.

"The perception the markets have (is) that central banks have to cut rates as inflation isn't a threat," said Dublin-based investment strategist Bernard McAlinden at NCB Stockbrokers.

Mining stocks were also a large positive influence on the broader market after a rebound in commodities prices helped push up the share prices of Anglo American (AAL.L: Quote, Profile , Research), which rose 3.6 percent, Rio Tinto (RIO.L: Quote, Profile , Research), which added 3.6 percent, and Kazahmys (KAZ.L: Quote, Profile , Research), which gained 3.4 percent. Continued...

/...
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 12:16 PM
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59. Signals: Next USFed Rate Cut (Willie)
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2007/1024.html

...

BROKER DEALER STOCK INDEX PLUMMETS

The broker dealer stock index XBD is crucial. It represents precisely the powerful Wall Street interests. They call the shots with the USFed. Consider that JPMorgan is acting body of the USFed, and JPM is a member of the XBD index, a select privileged elite short list of big banking firms. Their portfolios are deeply endangered by the mortgage bonds and associated credit derivatives, the collateralized debt obligations. They are known as CDO’s nowadays, whose makeup includes various amounts of subprime slime, a unique American concoction of stupid loans, reckless lending, insane leverage, laced with fraudulent ratings, and misrepresented to investors. The September USFed official rate cut was fully announced by this XBD stock index. The breakdown in July remained in breakdown mode in August. It rebounded immediately after the rate cut. But since then, it has suffered a technical breakdown once again. This plummet is more dire in fact, since the 20-week moving average (in red) has crossed the 50-week moving average (in blue) to signal a bearish event early in its unfolding bust. The decline last week was huge, a climax occurring on Friday. Was that the anniversary of Black Monday? The XBD struggles to hold its ground, unable to lift on a bounce at all. Another USFed rate cut is again indicated. Give it 7-to-1 odds of occurring before Thanksgiving or when the snows arrive in New Jack City.

...

The entire structured risk model is going to unravel, where all manner of offloaded risk will be upended, resulting in wave after wave of bank problems, bond crises, derivative distress, and more. The entire financial structure of the US banking system is proving to be a house of cards, bubbles throughout the foundation, improper pricing models throughout the entire network of tinkertoys in support grids, and fraud laced within its fabric. A boycott of US$-based bonds is early in development. Corporate bonds of US$ denomination are not attracting foreign capital. Mortgage bonds and their CDO derivatives are in search of bond cemeteries, totally devoid of price valuations on balance sheets. Most are actually worthless, creating holes in bank balance sheets. Some FOMC Treasury auctions have been failures. Foreign central bank ownership of USTreasury Bonds is on the fast decline. The great bond bubble is in the long excruciating process of bust. The tech/telecom stock bust of 2000 was quick, sudden, with a certain aftermath. The bond bust will take years to unravel.

...

The important point to take away is that the USDollar is in trouble, confirmed by a powerful uptrend in the crude oil price. New highs were reached in October, without yet a new lower USDollar index suffered. In my view, the key is Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Persian Gulf nations. If they refuse 100% US$ payment for crude oil, we will hear the death knell of the defacto PetroDollar standard. Eventually, look for payments of Arab oil, if not all OPEC oil, to be made in whatever China dictates their currency basket to be. Entire banking systems will be forced to adjust, with massive selling of USTBonds and accumulation of EuroBonds. This topic will be continued in the November Hat Trick Letter.

...

REQUIEM FOR THE USDOLLAR

The Goldman Sachs plant as the new head of the Bank of Canada ensures the takeover of the Canadian banking system, the introduction of the newly inaugurated amero currency, and lost sovereignty for Canada. This is tragic. With a crippled US banking system, a faltering USEconomic system dependent upon housing, and a Mexican failed state in the making, my hopes for the viability of the amero currency are dim. This garbage regional currency is doomed from the start. Canada is a small economy with an absolutely gigantic treasure of natural resources. The relative size of the three economies bodes poorly for the amero. With 30 million population in Canada, 300 million in the Untied States, and 120 million in Mexico, Canada cannot pull the three-horse team running ahead of a bizarre stagecoach. Cheap Mexican labor, ample Canadian minerals & resources, even with a spiffy new network of corridor transportation lines, cannot comfortably mesh with US entities. The lopsided imbalanced upside down corrupted mix of US elements, steered toward consumption not investment, large & powerful rather than efficient, directed by wrong priorities, dominated by corrupt Wall Street and aggressive military forces simply is bound to produce little on the positive, and much on the negative. This queer alliance will not stop gold or silver prices from rising to great heights. This queer alliance will not prevent the energy prices from rising either. The main policy behind the amero currency will be inflation, no different from the USDollar.

/plenty more...
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:28 PM
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66. Insane Gold Bug blather
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 12:29 PM
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60. 1:28 EST and definitely in the shitter
Dow 13,571.77 103.48 (0.76%)
Nasdaq 2,739.54 35.22 (1.27%)
S&P 500 1,503.34 12.54 (0.83%)
10-Yr Bond 4.333% 0.002


NYSE Volume 2,204,580,250
Nasdaq Volume 1,622,760,750

1:00 pm : The major indices are trading slightly above their worst levels of the session. The financial sector (-1.0%) is now the main laggard, and is significant drag on S&P 500 due to its large weighting.

The small-cap Russell 2000 Index and the S&P 400 Mid-Cap Index are currently underperforming the broader market.

Separately, crude oil continues to rally. A barrel of crude for December delivery is up 2.73% to $89.48. DJ30 -31.21 NASDAQ -22.09 R2K -0.8% SP400 -0.8% SP500 -4.48 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1689/1168/1.44 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1826/1329/701 mln

12:35 pm : The major indices continue to trade in a choppy manner. Since the last update, a pick up in buying interest has pushed the indices back into negative territory, and the Nasdaq into fresh intraday lows.

Comcast (CMCSA 21.37, -2.48) and Symantec (SYMC 18.19, -2.81) are notable drags on the Nasdaq composite.

Comcast reported third quarter earnings that were in-line with the consensus estimates. The stock has plummeted though, over concerns that Comcast will not meet future guidance.

Symantec is trading lower despite beating its second quarter earnings expectations. The stock has taken a beating after the company lowered its third quarter earnings guidance. Also, Robert W. Baird downgraded the company to Neutral from Outperform. DJ30 -14.22 NASDAQ -19.56 SP500 -3.12 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1681/1145/1.31 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1829/1293/634 mln
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 12:33 PM
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61. Where Would It Be WITHOUT All That "Liquidity?"
I shudder to think!!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 12:51 PM
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62. Waaaaay OT (but I couldn't help myself): Well, you don't see something like this every day
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN247838820071024

CANBERRA (Reuters) - An Australian barmaid has been fined for crushing beer cans between her bare breasts while an off-duty colleague has been fined for hanging spoons from her friend's nipples, police said Wednesday.

Police in Western Australia said the 31-year old barmaid pleaded guilty in the local magistrate's court to twice exposing her breasts to patrons at the Premier Hotel in Pinjarra, south of the state capital, Perth.

The woman "is alleged to have also crushed beer cans between her breasts during one of the offences," in breach of hotel licensing laws, police from the Peel district of Western Australia said in a statement.

The barmaid and the hotel manager were both fined A$1,000 ($900), while an off-duty barmaid was fined A$500 for helping to hang spoons from the woman's nipples, police said.

...more...


:rofl:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 02:18 PM
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64. UIA....
you have way too much time on your hands as did our friends in Canberra.;)
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 02:45 PM
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65. 3:43 EST DOW performs near miraculous (wink wink nod nod) recovery
Dow 13,682.89 7.64 (0.06%)
Nasdaq 2,758.98 15.78 (0.57%)
S&P 500 1,514.02 1.86 (0.12%)
10-Yr Bond 4.352% 0.021


NYSE Volume 3,481,264,500
Nasdaq Volume 2,434,430,750

3:30 pm : For now, the stock market's recovery effort has subsided. The major indices remain in negative territory, but have pared a good portion of their intraday losses.

The dollar has lost ground this session. The DXY Index is down 0.36%.

After the close, 95 companies are set to report their earning, including Microsoft (MSFT 32.14, +0.89).DJ30 -12.19 NASDAQ -23.21 SP500 -2.62 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1757/1184/2.25 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1836/1398/1.20 bln

3:05 pm : The major indices get a nice upward push after CNBC reported that the AIG (AIG 62.08, -1.76) write off rumors are not true, slightly before 15:00 ET.

There have been concerns over companies exposure to the subprime turmoil. In addition to the decline in AIG, companies that insure mortgages have been hit such as PMI Group (PMI 15.98, -1.84) and MBIA (MBI 47.33, -7.84).
DJ30 +5.77 NASDAQ -18.69 SP500 -1.40 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1824/1111/2.09 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1883/1333/1.01 bln

2:30 pm : Since the last update, crude oil hit an all-time intraday high of $90.55. New sanctions on Iran, the conflict between Turkey and Kurds in northern Iraq, tight supply and a weakening dollar are playing a role in the rally.

Despite the high oil prices, the stock market has seen some modest gains following a broad-based pickup in buying interest. The major indices are still posting decent sized losses, but are off their session lows.DJ30 -67.47 NASDAQ -28.92 SP500 -8.75 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1884/1022/1.88 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 2104/1101/947 mln
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:32 PM
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68. Insane volume caps the day.
There's a real Herculean effort afoot to stabilize the markets.

Dow 13,671.92 Down 3.33 (0.02%)
Nasdaq 2,750.86 Down 23.90 (0.86%)
S&P 500 1,514.40 Down 1.48 (0.10%)
10-Yr Bond 4.352% Up 0.021

NYSE Volume 4,197,335,000
Nasdaq Volume 2,806,895,750

4:25 pm : Anyone watching the stock market all day, every day, has plenty of reason to be tired this week. Aside from all of the earnings news, the manic nature of the trading alone has been enough to put you on bed rest for a while. Thursday was certainly no exception as we once again witnessed another large sell-off only to see the stock market come barreling back in afternoon trading.

At their lows for the day, reached right around 2:00 ET, the Dow, Nasdaq and S&P were down 127, 40, and 15 points, respectively. What doesn't show up in those figures, though, are the gains that were registered in the early going. For added perspective, then, note that the swings between the high and low points for the Dow, Nasdaq and S&P were 193, 54 and 23 points, respectively.

The initial move higher was fueled by encouraging earnings news from the likes of Motorola (MOT 19.30, +0.75), Aetna (AET 55.99, +3.09), Express Scripts (ESRX 60.94, +3.57) and Estee Lauder (EL 44.72, +1.40). Those companies, and others, helped offset disappointments from companies like Symantec (SYMC 18.50, -2.52), Dow Chemical (DOW 43.66, -0.32) and MBIA, Inc. (MBI 46.99, -8.20).

Buyers didn't really pick up their efforts, though, until the September new home sales report hit the wires at 10:00 ET and helped mitigate the disappointment that followed weaker than expected durable orders and initial claims data.

The headline of note was that new home sales increased 4.8% from August to an annualized rate of 770K units. The rally that followed the report, though, was certainly questionable when taking into account that the level of new home sales was in line with the consensus estimate and that it only showed growth because the prior month's report showed a 7.6% downward revision to an annualized rate of 735K units.

In due time, the new home sales enthusiasm faded and sellers returned in earnest upon hearing a rumor that Dow component AIG (AIG 61.79, -2.05) would soon be announcing a large write-down.

The speculation surrounding AIG hit other financial stocks hard. At one point the S&P financial sector was down 2.3% Oil prices surging past $90 per barrel on supply concerns and news that the U.S. imposed new sanctions against Iran exacerbated the selling pressure.

Things turned on a dime, however, as the rumors surrounding a potential AIG write-down got shot down. That paved the way for buyers to return to the action and they did so with some conviction as larger losses were pared considerably.

The comeback effort was a broad-based affair. The financial sector (-0.6%) played an influential role, but at the end of the day, it still underperformed the broader market as did the consumer discretionary (-0.9%), technology (-0.3%), industrials (-0.5%) and telecom services (-0.6%) sectors.

The utility sector (+2.0%) was the only sector to gain more than 1.0%, but its small weighting in the S&P meant it didn't have the pull to make a bigger difference. The energy (+0.6%), health care (+0.4%), consumer staples (+0.4%) and materials (+0.5%) sectors were also among the leadership.

Separately, the Treasury market lost some ground, but nothing too significant. The 10-year note slipped 7 ticks, bringing its yield up to 4.37%.DJ30 -3.33 NASDAQ -23.90 SP500 -1.48 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 1737/1231/2.74 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 1675/1583/1.61 bln
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