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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:12 PM
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Medical-bill errors becoming more common (Sure, but why are they never in MY favor?)
Source: AP

That's what I have always wanted to understand: from cable tv, to banks, to utility companies, to medical services they are virtually always in the companies favor. Something weird going on here.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21527433/
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:14 PM
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1. When the cable tv, or banks, or utility companies, or medical services design the systems
who do you thing they will favor?
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:17 PM
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2. Sometimes they are (in your favor)
After receiving some strange looking bills from a trip to the Emergency Room at my local hospital, I called the billing office and -- surprise!! -- actually spoke to someone who knew what she was doing.

She said I had overpaid and was due a refund, and furthermore, not to pay any more bills without talking to her first.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:17 PM
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3. Much like bank errors. They are never in favor of the customer....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 03:43 PM
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4. hospitals are the worse
they can easily pad a bill and no one will catch the extra "this and that" that was never delivered...
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 06:58 PM
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5. The fact that they are not 50% of the time in our favor means that they are not random.
just like the voting machine errors.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:14 PM
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7. Exactly. If they profit from a mistake
expect them to keep making it.

If you profit form a mistake, that's costing them money. They'll track it down and demand that you pay them every penny of it, usually with an attitude that implies that you committed fraud and tried to steal from them.

Any "mistakes" that survive for long in that system will always favor them.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:04 PM
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6. It's just another method of profit for oligopolies. (nt)
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:18 PM
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8. How many people bother to check the bills?
I mean seriously -- when was the last time you counted up the meds you received in a hospital stay or actually tracked your electric/gas meter?

They are playing the odds that no one catches it, and if they do, well 1 refund out of 10 overcharges (I made that ratio up) isn't bad, it is profitable.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:24 PM
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9. Bart's Law #2
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 07:25 PM by Canuckistanian

Bart's Law #2


Any time a person or entity makes a "mistake" that puts extra money (or power) in their pocket,
expect them to make that "mistake" again and again and again. That's why refineries have fires now and then, because a fire allows them to scream "unexpected shortage" so they can gouge us on the price of gas.


http://www.bartcop.com/bartslaw.htm
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MUSTANG_2004 Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 07:50 PM
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10. As someone who has helped design billing systems for healthcare
I can say that the business rules for billing are extremely complicated and often conflicted. It's not at all surprising that they aren't always right. The insurance companies have billing rules that are constantly changing (getting more complicated), and the medicare rules are complex.

As far as whether they favor the company vs the consumer, I was always more concerned with introducing an underbilling mistake because I know that underbilling bugs will rarely be caught if not by our testing (who reports that a $35,000 hospital bill is too low?), while an overbilling bug will be reported very quickly. Given a limited amount of time and resources, it's natural to pay a little more attention to making sure it doesn't underbill.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:51 AM
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11. Every single time I use my health insurance, there is a billing error
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 08:52 AM by fasttense
and every single time the error is in the insurance company's favor.

I have learned the insurance company's sneaky little ways to get out of paying a valid bill, so I make sure I get all the required referrals and reauthorizations. But even when I follow their very confusing preauthorizations, they bill it wrong. Eventually they pay it but only after at least five phone calls.

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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 08:56 AM
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12. Just think of how much worse this would be if the government were in charge.
:sarcasm:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Anybody who thinks that corporate America is 'better' than the government at improving 'efficiency' hasn't worked in or dealt with corporate America.

:shrug:
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