Putin Warns Of Outside Forces That Wish To Split Russia And Take Over Its Natural Resources

Source: Associated Press

MOSCOW: President Vladimir Putin said Sunday that there are people in the world who wish to split up Russia and take over its vast natural resources, and others who would like to "rule over all mankind," a veiled reference to the United States.

Speaking in front of Moscow's iconic St. Basil's Cathedral on Red Square, Putin told a group of military cadets and youth group members that while "an overwhelming majority of people in the world" are friendly toward Russia, there are some who "keep saying to this day that our nation should be split."

"Some believe that we are too lucky to possess so much natural wealth, which they say must be divided," Putin said, speaking on National Unity Day. "These people have lost their mind," he added with a smile.

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Not missing a chance to take a shot at the United States, Putin said there are people who "would like to build a unipolar world and rule over all of mankind." He counted them as among the minority in the world who do not maintain a "friendly attitude" toward Russia.

He said any attempt to establish a unipolar world was doomed to fail.

"Nothing of this kind has ever occurred in our planet's history, and I don't think it will ever happen," the president said.


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offshoring to countries engaged in civil disputes?

(I may have posted it elsewhere in GD a couple weeks' ago...)

Which means either corporate America wants to offshore to Russia, or break them up for their juicy oil ( :crazy: ). Which is it?

So creating an external threat, particularly 'dark forces', is right on cue.

I have thought for awhile now that Bush is alot like Putin and in fact so is Chavez in my opinin, this just makes me think it more.

and Bush=Putin=Chavez? According to who, the John Birch Society? Or Lyndon LaRouche?

systems of Russia from Stalin on and the more traditionally fascist systems of Germany Italy and Spain. Nor do I consider 'Communist China' anything other than a fascist state. You may feel free to split hairs over the differences, certainly left-totalitarianism arrives there from one side of the political divide while right-totalitarianism departs from the other, but they both end up in pretty much the same place.

Chavez is a social democrat. I'm a social democrat of sorts. So no, to me there is no equation that correlates Chavez with the authoritarians Bush and Putin. According to whom? The analysis of the parallels between left and right totalitarianism are long standing. Hannah Arendt "The Origins of Totalitarianism" might be a good place to start.

The US is the biggest threat to the planet at the current time.

Putin/Russia, or any other recourse rich countries would be insane not to take notice.

Western corporate predators have already attempted to strip Russia of its assets and resources following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The notion isn't simply pulled from thin air.

I don't know what Putin's motives are, but there can be no doubt about the motives of those who have provoked the convulsions of violence and authoritarianism throughout the world during the last eight years. The Bush Administration has made it necessary for every government in the world to be on its guard. The threat is very real.

You should check the plundering of Russia's wealth in the 90's.

Another country would just go bunkrupt from all the stealing that ensued.

Esp with the upcoming elections.

While Citibank writes off about $20 billion in debt, and more banks may do the same this week, PetroChina has hit the Shanghai market and is now the world's biggest oil company. Worth about $1 trillion. Give or take a hundred billion or two in the next day or two as it finds its way so to speak in the new market. That's twice what Exxon-Mobil is worth. And if PetroChina obtains 2 billion more barrels in oil reserves, it will surpass Exxon-Mobil in reserve capacity as well.

And you wonder why China Oil is so friendly with Sudan and other politically incorrect countries? China Oil is the parent company of PetroChina. Well, not officially. But it is. China Oil apparently is also the company of choice of the Iraqis. So much for Exxon-Mobil. And so much for Hunt Oil.

Is it possible that the agenda of George W Bush may not be the agenda of George HW Bush?

The interesting thing about China Oil is that it owns about 10% of Blackstone. The world's largest leveraged buyout/hedge fund. Some of the investors in Blackstone are rumored to be the same investors in Carlyle Group. The world's second largest leveraged buyout/hedge fund. And Carlyle Group is now buying up companies in China. China is obviously the place to be. Particularly if you're interested in buying up the world. Warren Buffet may not be. But others are.

So maybe Putin is talking about China. Or maybe he is talking about the people buying China.

And once upon a time a former congressman turned covert diplomat and overt CIA agent named George HW Bush convinced Richard Nixon that The People's Republic of China was "good" communism and The Republic of China, aka Taiwan, was "bad" democracy. And so among other things an opera was born. "Nixon in China." And while Nixon met the masses, Bush apparently began the wheeling and dealing. You win some, you lose some. Win or lose along the way, there was always China. As for the opera, well, it appears the Fat Lady is about to sing.

If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em. Welcome to the oilgarchy.

Taiwan was not a democracy during Nixon's trip to Red China. It was a dictatorship run by the Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-Shek's buddies. If George H W Bush really called it "bad" democracy, he was delusional; it wasn't a democracy.

Compared to the communist regime on the mainland, Taiwan was a democracy. The government of Chiang Kai-shek was established as a temporary provisional government. Eventually democratic reforms were put in place. Reforms that were put in place by Chiang Kai-shek's son, Chiang Ching-kuo, which should have, admittedly, been put in place long before they were. Sorry for using the word democracy. But comparatively speaking, it was. Depends on your interpretation, perhaps, of democracy. Our government is not really a democracy at times either. Democracy at times is more an ideal than a reality.

Regardless of whether it was a democracy or not, the policies of Nixon, influenced by Bush, changed the balance of power in the Far East. And not necessarily to the benefit of the West. But they are proving to be the benefit of corporate interests of the West.

Moving from the rule of the imperial dynasties to the rule of democracy is not an easy transition. The history of the two Chinas reflects that. The Republic of China has become a democracy. The People's Republic of China has not. It is a communist country which has begun to integrate capitalism as an economic system within the framework of communism which began when Hong Kong reverted back to the control of the Chinese. Time will tell if it will be a successful transiton or merely a transition to what appears to many to be the beginning of an oligarchy which interestingly can also be seen in Russia although Putin seems intent on preventing oligarchy from being established in Russia.

That is not the case with the People's Republic of China. They have a booming economy because of oligarchy. Although some would say it is not entirely their economy but the economy of foreign interests.

Regardless of how you look at it, the reality is that the "new economy" of the People's Republic of China as reflected by PetroChina and by China Oil represents a move towards "one world economy" which is also a move towards "one world order."

Putin sees China as a strategic ally; they've pledged to expand trade ties and they've signed a mutual defense pact(http://www.cpim.org/pd/2001/july29/july292k1_rus_china%20treaty.htm">link).

Belgium. They've managed to split their own country over the past five months as well, and their only national resource is (very good) beer.

"The only good Chekist, is a DEAD Chekist."

Both Civil War Generals who later fought Indians, but it was Sheridan who Succeeded Sherman As Commander In Chief of the Army (Sherman had Succeeded Grant when Grant became President in 1869).

In fact Sherman's Middle Name was for the last Serious Indian Leader who fought to keep the Indians Independent of White society. Tecumseh died in 1815 and the rest of the 1800s was just a clean up campaign.

for straightening me out.

Eastern Siberia is far from Moscow and looks mighty tasty to China. Especially with the big population imbalance there.

has the usual neo-con suspects associated with it Perle, Abrams, etc.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1429

It has changed it's name to The American Committee for Peace in the Caucasus
http://www.peaceinthecaucasus.org/
and has edited out any mention of the usual neo-con suspects as far as I can see after a quick search around the site.

It has the same address as Freedom House, 1319 18th Street NW

that the world is too big, too unwieldy for just ONE superpower to reign supreme. That would be the USA. This past decade, the US has tried to rule in a uni-polar world. It hasn't worked out. I think the natural laws of gravity favour some kind of balance of power, but the US Empire has refused

By trying to do too much, we just assured our own demise as a Mega-Super-Empire.

Fact:
The US comprises about 3.8% of the world's population. It's a little tough to jerk around the other 96.4%. We're powerful, there can be no doubt about it. But we're not THAT powerful.
Ugly Fact:
The US Empire has a very tarnished reputation. This has caused a lot of problems back home, like our embassies becoming armed fortresses, security is becoming a huge issue. Our bases which some countries have hiked the rent, people don't like our presence and it's just costing the US more and more to operate in other countries. Also, think of the business deals that were lost, just because we're so despised. That's part of 'soft' diplomacy which is probably in the stratosphere.
Worse Fact:
Because of our insistence on Ruling the World, we have created huge instability in the world, and have hastened our own demise.

The world will return to some kind of balance of powers.

Putin knows that ---

It's the highest hill --- referenced in that sense in the mid-50's by LBJ . . . who had an idea or two what the future agenda was going to be.

Also, as we can see, the disruptions of Global Warming are setting in ---
New Orleans, California fires, Mexico .... just for recent upheavals.

THEY know it's coming quickly ---