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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:06 PM
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Pakistan rejects U.S. call to end emergency
Source: usatoday



Pakistan rejects U.S. call to end emergency



ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistan on Sunday rejected a blunt call from Washington's No. 2 diplomat for President Gen. Pervez Musharraf to lift emergency rule and free political opponents ahead of elections.
"This is nothing new," Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed Sadiq told The Associated Press. "The U.S. has been saying this for many days. He has said that same thing. He has reiterated it."

Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte delivered the message that Musharraf must end emergency rule as soon as possible during a two-hour meeting Saturday with Musharraf and Pakistan's deputy army commander, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani. The envoy's visit was seen as a last best chance to ease the latest political turmoil in Pakistan.

Sadiq said the government was taking steps to hold free and fair elections, and any decision on lifting the emergency would "be taken according to the ground situation."




Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-11-18-pakistanpressure_N.htm
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:07 PM
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1. Mush says FU to Bush!
Divorce!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:10 PM
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2. The Pakistani 'Emergency' ....
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 06:11 PM by Trajan
Is Musharraf losing an election ??? .... THAT is their fucking emergency ?

Yeah right: Sounds like a day of celebration to me ..... NOT a fucking emergency .....

Musharraf is the CAUSE of the emergency ...... NOT the resolution of it ....

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:16 PM
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4. I don't know what the administration considers an emergency, but Biden has
expressed an opinion that if Musharraf didn't cooperate and follow the suggestions, that the middle majority would, out of a feeling of powerlessness, align with the radicals, then eventually the radical movement would come to power. Think Iran.

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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:44 PM
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10. I think 'Bhutto' ....
Which says to me 'Middle/Moderate' .... NOT 'Iran' ....

While I respect Biden's general knowledge of Central Asian issues, I still find Musharraf in power where he should not be: This is an asshole who didn't like the rule of law, so he threw it out the window .....

I don't blame Biden for that, but I don't recall him making a great effort to change anything in Pakistan these last five years .... Nor the others, for that matter ....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:50 PM
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12. I think he -- and they -- were working with what they had. So many times
it's the lesser of two evils, but that's the sad reality.

And in all fairness to our side, our attention has been on Iraq for the past years. Also, we really don't know if they have or haven't been trying to find another alternative. :shrug:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:12 PM
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3. I'm riveted and apprehensive about the Pakistan situation. A recent interview
with Bhutto stated she wasn't amenable to working with Musharraf any longer -- been burned too many times.

There's only so much we as a country can do, but the results of whatever transpires will affect us all. I'm so sorry it's come to this, and I hold Bush totally responsible. His poison has seeped into every nook and cranny in the world.


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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:34 PM
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6. Bhutto's no savior...
Bhutto's niece wrote an article called Aunt Benazir's False Promises

Also see Mike Whitney's Princess Ferragamo at the Barricades
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:06 PM
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7. I know - don't know if it's included in the articles you link to (haven't read
them yet) but Amnesty Int'l charged Bhutto with the worst record of human rights violations in Pakistan's history during her two terms as Prime Minister. But like it or not (not) they're the two major players currently in Pakistan . And as the Chuck Knox used to say about the Seattle Seahawks -- we have to play the hand we're dealt.

I think the hope was that if Musharraf compromised, and Bhutto's party compromised, together they could keep violence and uprisings at bay - but that's just conjecture on my part.


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:13 PM
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8. Whoa - I just read the articles you linked to - have you posted those separately?
If not, I think people would be interested, so please consider doing that.

And welcome to DU! :hi:
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:49 PM
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11. Cheers gateley...
How do I post the articles? Would be happy to do so.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:53 PM
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14. Just cut and paste the title of the article in the subject line, and ditto for a paragraph
or two from the article -- or how ever many you want -- in the message box. Then just include the link like you did in your post.

I'd suggest posting in General Discussion - Politics.

Let me know if you need help - and thanks again for these!!


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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:52 PM
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13. Or where, rather...
Is there a particular forum or something where these should go?

Still familiarizing myself w/ the site.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:17 PM
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5. A dollar doesn't go as far as it used to.
It used to be that when you bought a foreign government, it stayed bought.

But now... :shrug:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:18 PM
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9. I Find It Hard to Believe Bush Wants Him to End It (nt)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:53 AM
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18. And it's not like Bush has any credibility
Dictators always ignore the will of the people; that's why they're dictators. Bush knows that he has a free run for another 14 months because the Democrats don't want to alarm people unnecessarily. So a man without a popular mandate to run the country will run it into the ground for another year because nobody else in the government sees fit to stop him. Musharraf knows that the United States can't back up any of its bluster. We don't have any troops to spare from the dual quagmires. So what is Bush's alternative? Appeal to the United Nations?

:rofl:

Well, yeah, I suppose it would be funny, except for one minor thing: All the people who are going to die needlessly while Musharraf clings to power and staves off his own day of reckoning.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:11 PM
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15. No one here listens to Smirk either
well, no one except Pelosi and Reid
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nitpicker Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:04 AM
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16. Despite all the sound and fury
Right now, it is one tinpot dictator (Shrub) supporting another.

But there may not be much to choose from over there.

And let's not forget all the hostages- er, troops- over in Afghanistan.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:40 AM
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17. I wonder where they got this from


"...and any decision on lifting the emergency would "be taken according to the ground situation."

I do believe that Mr. Bush has used this very same excuse for the war in Iraq!
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