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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:50 PM
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Mother of 'Baby Grace' Told Police She Tortured, Beat Daughter to Death, Court Documents Show
Source: foxnews

A woman believed to be the mother of a 2-year-old whose body was found in Galveston Bay told police she and the girl's stepfather beat and tortured the child to death, court documents show.

The details, in a statement Kimberly Dawn Trenor gave to police, paint a chilling picture of the last days of the girl investigators called "Baby Grace" as they worked for weeks to learn her identity.

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Tuttoilmondo said he could not discuss details of the little girl's death, but Trenor said in her police statement, first reported by Houston television station KTRK, that she and Zeigler, 24, killed her July 24.

The girl was beaten with leather belts, had her head held underwater in a bathtub and then was thrown across a room, her head slamming into a tile floor, Trenor said in the document. She said they kept the body in a storage shed for one to two months before they put it in a plastic bin and dumped it into Galveston Bay.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313001,00.html
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:54 PM
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1. This totally sickens me.
I am the father of a two year old little girl who is the most dear thing in my life. Such actions are just beyond my ken.

L-
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:03 PM
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3. I hope they put these people under the jail
Dead or alive...I don't care.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:08 PM
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4. Indeed, utterly beyond comprehension.
:cry:
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:58 AM
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37. Prison justice for them.
Put both of these sick fucks in the general population with murderers and terrorists & let the inmates take care of the rest. It would definitely save taxpayer money. I have zero sympathy for them.

It's beyond me how anyone could harm any toddler, let alone their own child. :cry:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:58 PM
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2. What is the matter with people.
I was just looking at my second son's first step snapshot today. He was seven months old and a holy terror.

I don't understand how anyone could do such a thing.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:07 AM
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10. I don't get it, either.
There's something really seriously messed up in the brains of anyone who could harm a helpless child. :grr:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:26 AM
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69. Post Partum Depression?
I figure that will be her excuse.
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:54 AM
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5. Has anybody seen the photos?
She was adoreable. It's incomprehensible how they could do this. I hope they both get the chair.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:59 AM
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6. ATTN: MODS - PLEASE REMOVE
NOT A DU TOPIC
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:57 PM
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18. Can you please list the topics that are "DU topics"?
Because a quick scan of all the forums doesn't make it clear.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:24 PM
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19. A. - there's and alert button.
B. - wht, exactly, is a "DU topic"? pray tell
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:06 PM
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21. Who the hell are you to decide that?
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SyntaxError Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:28 AM
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58. ummm???
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:25 AM
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7. Teenage Pregnancy. Low IQ. And, likely psychopathology on the mother's part. Lethal combination.
While we all fail to comprehend how someone could do such a thing, it is incumbent upon us to do so. Without seeking the root cause (and attempting to correct it for others), sadly we are likely to see more of this sort of tragedy.

J
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:34 AM
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8. And, er, psychopathology on the stepfather's part as well. n/t
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:22 AM
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9. Are you sure the husband she left wasn't also abusive?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 02:31 AM by seriousstan
While you are making as many excuses as you can for this torturing, murdering fuck......tell me all of the excuses for the new-found boyfriend's reasons that we must understand.

My God. my eyes are open and I now see the real victims in this tragedy. Thank God we had the instance of the little girl's death to open our eyes and hearts to finally comprehend the supposed reasons behind this murder/torture.

You know there are no truly evil people, only unfortunate circumstances.

I guess what truly amazes me is how some people think so highly of themselves that they are sure with the right amount of study all evils can be solved.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:33 AM
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11. Isn't it At Least Worth Trying to Figure Out Why?
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:30 AM
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12. It is worth trying to figure out why this happend, and when and if
they figure it out, put two rounds in each of their melons.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:45 AM
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13. yes, just get rid of them already. Let's not even waste jail space on them.
They have shown they are not capable of contributing anything to society and are in fact worthless.

And lest anyone think I am being sarcastic, I am serious as a heart attack. For those who abuse children, there should no mercy, not a moment. Child abuse victimizes into the next generation and cannot be tolerated. No society can progress in which child abuse occurs.
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WV_Biker Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:09 AM
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14. Couldn't Agree More ima_sinnic N/T
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. I agree, though I am theoretically opposed to capital punishment.
But if they are guilty, I could probably make an exception in this case.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:10 PM
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17. I agree. I'm sorry, but they should be put to death,
and stop wasting air.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:02 PM
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38. That's an excellent choice
if your goal is to increase crime instead of decreasing it, and if you want to punish other innocent people by diverting funds from social programs they need so you can have your feel good revenge moment, which study after study has shown costs more than just leaving them in prison for life.

Let's be honest - that extra cost isn't going to come from defense spending. We all know that.

If you honestly thought these people aren't worth spending resources on, you wouldn't argue that we should spend MORE tax dollars on them - at the expense of others.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. Excuse me, but baloney - putting two monsters to death that
killed a child isn't going to "increase" crime.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:44 PM
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47. If you raise children to believe
that some people deserve to be killed, what do you think that teaches them about how to resolve conflict? What does it teach them about violence?

Here's what the ASC thinks:

* A survey of experts from the American Society of Criminology, the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences, and the Law and Society Association showed that the overwhelming majority did not believe that the death penalty is a proven deterrent to homicide. Over 80% believe the existing research fails to support a deterrence justification for the death penalty. Similarly, over 75% of those polled do not believe that increasing the number of executions, or decreasing the time spent on death row before execution, would produce a general deterrent effect. (M. Radelet and R. Akers, Deterrence and the Death Penalty: The Views of the Experts, 1995)

* Research reported in Homicide Studies, Vol. 1, No.2, May 1997, indicates that executions may actually increase the number of murders, rather than deter murders. Prof. Ernie Thomson at Arizona State University reported a brutalizing effect from an execution in Arizona, consistent with the results of a similar study in Oklahoma.


http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=1705#crimi

And, as I stated above, the cost comes at the expense of other people. What programs do you think should be cut to pay for your revenge fantasy? Whose programs are you willing to sacrifice, for these people you think aren't worth anything?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:34 PM
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50. It might teach them that breaking laws designed to protect the helpless
among us from torture and murder ought to damned well be respected.

People need to know they will only have ONE chance to make a fuckup this bad.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:56 PM
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52. That's not what it ACTUALLY teaches them.
I would like to say that if a person eats too much candy and gains an unhealthy amount of weight, they will learn not to eat candy. But my believing that doesn't make it true. Even if logic tells me it should be true, that doesn't make it a reality. What happens in real life is that instead of learning a lesson, instead of weight and health issues being a deterrent to eating candy, the more people eat it, the more they get addicted to it. There will be a few people for whom it's an effective deterrent, but the overall effect on society at large is that they just gain more weight.

Similarly, believing that the state murdering people will teach other people not to murder doesn't make it true. The reality (what happens in real life, not in your abstract model) is that it teaches people more than fear of consequences; it teaches values. It teaches that if somebody screws you over, they deserve to be the victim of violence.

133 countries have abolished the death penalty.

During 2006, 91% of the 1,591 people who were executed because of the death penalty were killed in China, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan, and the United States.

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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:20 AM
Response to Reply #47
55. It is not a "revenge fantasy". There are certain crimes that
are committed (such as this one) where the person (and I use the word loosely) should lose their life because they are so horrible. And you'll never change my mind on it, sorry.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #55
57. There was no answer to this:
Whose social programs are you willing to sacrifice to pay to kill people you think are worthless?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #55
62. This was posted in another thread
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:31 PM
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24. Double tap....Sound about right to me.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:47 PM
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26. It is lazy and counterproductive not to attempt to understand and prevent.
These "murdering fucks" will neither be the first, nor the last to perpetrate such horrors. But, if we just workout our vengance without attempting to understand so we can prevent other incidents like this, then we are only feeding our need for revenge and will be no better for it in the future.

What scares the shit out people such as yourself is the prospect lingering in the back of your mind that if this human being is capable of such atrocities, then you yourself must have a similar capacity. Religions have formed around this very basic fear.

J
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:36 PM
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33. We have been "trying" to explain people's behavior for centuries. How's that coming?
I guess Freud had it all worked out, right? No? Genes? No? Parental influence? No?

How about a never-ending money and time pit that changes and shifts with the latest theory de jour. Humans do things that no chart or theory can predict or explain. I really don't care if they had bad parents, financial problems, heard voices or were just the murderous fucks that they were because they liked it. You and people such as yourself make careers out of "searching for the answer". After hearing your pseudo-psychobabble analysis of my motives, I am convinced that you are addicted to this form of mental masturbation.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:42 PM
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34. Actually. It's coming along well. Ever heard of functional MRI?
See...there's something called an MRI machine, which with some modification of the sequences will allow for DIRECT examination of brain activity associated with all sorts of behaviors. Not only functional brain activity, but also structural differences can be examined. There is a strong and vibrant research literature on the structural and functional brain differences of sociopaths, criminals, and the like from those without such tendencies. Understanding these brain differences and the genetics controlling the processes may actually lead to treatment. If your understanding of psychopathology ends at Freud, then you are woefully uninformed.

I'd rather "search for the answer" than join your ranks among the savage mob. Maybe it is you that needs to masturbate more to rid yourself of the latent aggression that apparently seethes at your core.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:08 PM
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46. And what if the person is so uninclined to GET treatment?
What then? Enforced MRI'S? Brain scans by the government followed by forcible treatment and or sterilization? Right. I can see that happening.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:58 PM
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53. Gene therapy. Once you have a marker, then you could have a prenatal treatment.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 03:59 PM by NoodleyAppendage
The MRIs are only a means to elucidate endophenotypes of sociopathy, which then will lead to genetic discoveries and possibly the targeting of certain genes at the prenatal level. Granted, there is likely to be a complex interplay of genes and environment, but if one could target succeptibility genes then the prospect of reducing sociopaths could be possible.

Why give up on the problem? This is what I fail to comprehend. Killing people without addressing the root cause of the problem behavior does NOTHING to prevent future problems. How's that capital punishment working to reduce violent crime? What? What's that you say...it's not! I'm shocked.

J
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:18 AM
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54. It works fine on those it is applied to.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #33
43. Correct. There IS no way to figure it out. They and those that
would do something this horrific simply need to be removed, permanently.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #7
49. Any evidence of drug abuse? Because to me this just screams
"TWEAKERS"!!!!!!
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SyntaxError Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
60. I'd say the guy is a bit crazy himself.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:08 PM
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16. Someone please tell me how these people do NOT deserve
the death penalty, because I think they do. Flame away.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:36 PM
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20. Because killing them will not bring Baby Grace back.
Nor will it deter other sickos from committing crimes like this. And, on a practical level, it will cost more to kill them than it would to keep them in jail for life.

The Death Penalty is nothing less than state-sanctioned murder, and I'm against it in all cases--for one, the system is too deeply flawed for it to be applied fairly and justly. If only ONE innocent person dies, it's not worth it. YMMV, of course, but I'm not one of these people that is against the death penalty only when it's convenient or popular to say so.

Mob rule, vengeance and blood lust are not what our justice system should be about.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:58 PM
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23. Don't care. We'll be assured their genes won't go
further. And they deserve it.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:01 PM
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27. Life in prison can also ensure their genes won't go further.
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:01 PM by jmm
Even if it couldn't genes can only explain so much and the relatives of people who commit heinous crimes shouldn't simply be treated like they're guilty by association.

I don't trust any society, especially ours, to determine they deserve it.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Thank you for being a voice of reason. (n/t)
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #27
40. It is obvious they deserve it. Anyone who would do
to an innocent child what they did, deserves it, period.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #27
51. No it won't. Women get pregnant in prison with considerable regularity
from what I hear. And there are those "conjugal visits", too.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:05 PM
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28. Why fucking kill them then, why not just sterlize them if you're worried about genes?
Whether or not the DP is deserved is irrelevant. The point is that this is a punishment that is irrevocable, and our system is the product of a deeply flawed human society. No matter how heinous the crime, I can't in good conscience support applying the death penalty, because for every case like Baby Grace's, there are cases like the West Memphis Three. The DP smacks of bloodlust and mob rule, and that's a dangerous road to go down for a society.

There are worse things than death, anyway, which is what many of the bloodthirsty folks like you fail to realize. A swift death isn't punishment, it's mercy.

Ye gods, DP threads always manage to make me a little sicker at this species I was forced into.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #28
41. They are monsters, not humans. Whatever humanity they
once might have had is long gone, I'm sorry.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #28
65. If they're worried about genes, well, at least the kid's gone
The kid was the perpetuation of those genes. Who knows what she might have gone on to do?

... do I really need a sarcasm tag? It's not really sarcasm. It's where the eugenic proposition of eliminating bad blood or bad genes from the people leads.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:09 AM
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63. With the death penalty, it's all over too soon
They are no longer living - and thus, off the hook
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:17 PM
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22. End their existence
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:44 PM
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25. The Pics
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 09:11 PM by superconnected

Riley Ann Sawyers



And her mom, Kimberly Dawn Trenor



"Royce Zeigler is charged with injuring a child in the "Baby Grace" case. " - He's the mothers' husband but not the father of the child.



A pic of the dad, Robert Sawyers, in tears over this



"DePledge said Riley was the product of a "teenage pregnancy." Trenor and Robert Sawyers were together for two years as a result of the pregnancy, DePledge said, during which time they lived with Sheryl Sawyers"
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #25
68. The mother's eyes...
...PURE EVIL
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:11 PM
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30. Doesn't this go deeper though...these two individuals should
have never had a child....maybe if they were educated about birth control....are they of the school that they should have babies because they can....

It's shocking but this is only the beginning.....hard times are coming in this country and today's Americans do not know how to handle crisis...children will bear the brunt of the impending hard times.

They should go to jail for life no parole.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:19 PM
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31. Let them climb the walls at a place like florence
There are things worse than a death penalty.

Sitting in a room, knowing you will die there, with no sound, a blacked out window.

No tv, no contact with the world, just the rest of your life to go insane..

ADX.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:28 PM
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32. Agreed....you know I have no sympathy for these two....
none....I think hard labor should be implemented. There is no rehabilitation for this crime they do not deserve any comforts.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
44. Educated about birth control? Do we really think that both the
mother and father DIDN'T know what would cause childbirth and how to protect against it?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #30
56. they didn't have the child together- he was the step-father.
nt
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #30
71. women and children always bear the brunt of hard times...in this case...
...it was just the child.

I think these "people" ought to be forcibly sterilized. NO ONE who does that to a child should be allowed to procreate.


E V E R
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JesterCS Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:14 AM
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35. And this is why we have a death penalty n/t
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:06 PM
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45. Yes, it is, unfortunately.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:35 AM
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36. Truly sickening
For one individual to do this is horrifying enough, but for two conspiring to do this together? WTF? It's incomprehensible.

I see no reason to house and feed these types of child murderers and I am usually not pro-death penalty, but I see no possibility of doing anything with these two individuals in general.

In addition...Why should other prisoners who have not done such monstrous crimes be be subjected to such people?

A really horible story-- that poor little girl!
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:32 PM
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39. there are times when I wholeheartedly support the death penalty...
and this is one of them.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:27 PM
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48. I swear I saw someith about 22 other kids.
I assume that was another case-somebody reportedly knows where the bodies of twenty two children are but I can't find any more on it.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 01:49 PM
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59. where's the conservatives mustering their faux outrage?
oh that's right....once out of the womb, you're on your own. unless you've been in a coma for 15 years. then they pretend to care.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:36 PM
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61. And she's pregnant again!
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 02:37 PM by TexasBushwhacker
"Davis also said his client's wife (Kimberly Dawn Trenor) is pregnant and being housed in the medical wing of the Galveston County Jail.

Trenor is being kept in the medical wing probably out of fear that other inmates might attack her because of the nature of the allegations, Child Protective Services spokeswoman Estella Olguin said."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5334351.html



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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:42 AM
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66. I hope that child goes up for adoption to kind people.
Unfortunately cases like this aren't at all new. Twenty or 30 years ago I read of a South Carolina woman who had apparently abused one or more of her children, in at least one case to death, and she became pregnant again before or during prosecution, declaring that she would keep having children as long as the state kept taking them away.

But as far as I understand it, if Kimberly Dawn Trenor is put among the the regular inmates, they will ensure her life is a living hell. It's often said that those convicted of molesting or killing children are treated as the lowest of the low. See this item from the article.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5334351.html

Trenor is being kept in the medical wing probably out of fear that other inmates might attack her because of the nature of the allegations, Child Protective Services spokeswoman Estella Olguin said.

Galveston County sheriff's spokesman Maj. Ray Tuttoilmondo said he is prevented by law from discussing an inmate's medical condition, but in general, inmates are isolated when other inmates pose a threat.


Trenor is 19. She and her husband apparently treated a toddler with savagery and then covered up their crimes. Are they capable of rehabilitation? I have no idea, but I hope the fact that they put that child away in a box like a pair of shoes will be taken into account by the jury.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:56 AM
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72. She should be forcibly STERILIZED
so she can't have any more children
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:28 AM
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64. My only hope...
...is that they both die a slow, agonizing death.
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 06:06 AM
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67. Prosecutor to seek capital murder charges in toddler's death (Update 12.11.07)
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:39 AM
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70. she has a job waiting at the CIA!
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:37 AM
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73. Baby Grace case brings capital murder charges (Update 12.13.07)
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