World must fix climate in less than 10 years -UNDP

Source: Reuters

BRASILIA, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Unless the international community agrees to cut carbon emissions by half over the next generation, climate change is likely to cause large-scale human and economic setbacks and irreversible ecological catastrophes, a U.N. report said on Tuesday.

The U.N. Human Development Report issued one of the strongest warnings yet of the lasting impact of climate change on living standards and a strong call for urgent collective action.

"We could be on the verge of seeing human development reverse for the first time in 30 years," Kevin Watkins, lead author of the report, told Reuters.

The report, presented in Brasilia on Tuesday, sets targets and a road map to reduce carbon emissions before a U.N. climate summit next month in Bali, Indonesia.

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Time for Plan B: start hoarding & fortify the borders. Of Canada.

just do they have the will power???

I interviewed a storm-chasing photographer who's been paying attention. Everything he hears from the bigwigs is the important thing is to work to adapt.

People who have lots of money will make the switch much easier. Condos are going up across the downtowns of America; for what other reason would someone who could afford to spend $500k + on a home choose to live in areas that are still "transitional" with high crime rates?

Then you have the Bush family, spending untold millions to own a chunk of land on top of an aquifer.

then perhaps that land will be seized and given to the people of Earth as a sanctuary.

but adapting is going to be the key here. We should have tried prevention 30 or 40 years back.

If we start harnessing the energy that regulates the ecosystem of the planet, we'll make things even worse than by just pumping the sky full of carbon while cutting down the trees.

"We could be on the verge of seeing human development reverse for the first time in 30 years,"

We have to understand this. You can't, as in cannot, increase human development and expect to not increase the impact we have on the environment. The planet did not evolve for one species(and it has a way of fixing it if a species gets to that point). We want all the energy for ourselves, for our development. There is no waste in nature. It all goes to some form of life. If we take more for ourselves, we're killing everything else. It's not just about putting carbon into the atmosphere. It's the whole system of control. We can't keep doing that if we want to solve the problems caused by doing that.

We cannot control the environment without fucking it up for everything that isn't us. Eventually, since we depend so much on technology, it will be a world in which only a washer and dryer can exist.

It's one or the other. It's either human development, or a diverse environment/eco-system/habitat/whatever. It's human development, or life gets to live.

I'm not saying humans have to go away. We're part of the web. We bring something to the table. We just can't take the table. Well, we can...but then we have to drag it around everywhere we go, and that takes more energy. Plus we have to add a leg and a section every now and then. Then we have to fight everything that tries to get a scrap from the table. The table starts to fall apart, so we have to put it back together, but we made it bigger, and still drag it around with us. At some point, you just have to put the table down. Take a break. We don't have to have the table.

my personal belief is that it's already to stave off the worst effects of global warming- but either way, we are NOT going to cut carbon output in half over the next 10 years.

Source: Reuters

World must fix climate in less than 10 years: U.N.
Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:56am ET

BRASILIA (Reuters) - Unless the international community agrees to cut carbon emissions by half over the next generation, climate change is likely to cause large-scale human and economic setbacks and irreversible ecological catastrophes, a United Nations report says on Tuesday.

The U.N. Human Development Report issues one of the strongest warnings yet of the lasting impact of climate change on living standards and a strong call for urgent collective action.

"We could be on the verge of seeing human development reverse for the first time in 30 years," Kevin Watkins, lead author of the report, told Reuters.


The report, to be presented in Brasilia on Tuesday, sets targets and a road map to reduce carbon emissions before a U.N. climate summit next month in Bali, Indonesia.

Emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere help trap heat and lead to global warming.

"The message for Bali is the world cannot afford to wait, it has less than a decade to change course," said Watkins, a senior research fellow at Britain's Oxford University.

Dangerous climate change will be unavoidable if in the next 15 years emissions follow the same trend as the past 15 years, the report says. Continued...

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-11-27T145632Z_01_N19489506_RTRUKOC_0_US-UN-DEVELOPMENT-CLIMATE.xml



Read more: Your body uses these foods/nutrients ---

I had put the link in ---

and I can't get the last line out which pertains to another subject --- !!!

Trickster at play ---

We need ELECTRIC CARS -- we can replace every gas-guzzler in five years --
subsidize both ends of it --- mfg and purchase.

PLUS . . . WE NEED TO NATIONALIZE OUR OIL AND OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES AND TAKE THEM OUT OF THE HANDS OF THE FEW PRIVATE FAMILIES WHO CONTROL THEM NOW.

The suggestions being made now are ludicrous if you have any grasp of the overall situation ---
We require MAJOR changes --- NOW

....and crushing every automobile in the world?

for this to move forward. We should be leading the path to reversing this problem, and we should have started yesterday. Our rightful President of 2000 would have been instrumental. I personally believe Mr. Gore gave Bush Hell yesterday in their private little meeting. Did you see how sheepish Bush looked? And how bold and clearly managing of his infuriation and disgust was the great Mr. Gore?

(Sorry, I meant to reply to the O.P.)

Humans are too successful (or dumb) a species.

will get rid of what is hurting it - it can't take it any more.

influenced report by a scientific establishment already leaning toward economic progress rather than bald facts and survival.

The real news- if we were actually to get at true news- is that it likely is already too late, but fatalism is not an option because we can always dig a deeper grave- and fill it.

He fully understands and knows how to fix this problem... Others will wait until it is too late to make change that matters and then we shall all suffer the consequences....

Not to get too non-Secular here but doesn't the bible predict drought, famine, scortched earth.. I mean all things global warming related...

Do the Chirstians not want to take the lead on these issues? or are they forgone conclusions that it is inevitable?

Let me know when you hear Al Gore mention ELECTRIC CARS --- !!!!!

Is a massive population event.

Think 'Heroes'.

In fact, we're going to take advantage of this-here Global Warming and drill all of that oil and gas from beneath the newly-melted Arctic.

Hooray! It's a party! :party: