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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:38 PM
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Christian groups slam new Kidman children's movie
Source: AFP

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With its 180-million-dollar big budget movie, New Line studios is hoping to repeat the box-office success of its "Lord of the Rings" series.

And it aims to tap into the young audiences of cinema-goers who flocked to the five "Harry Potter" films making them big earners for Warner Bros.

But already "The Golden Compass" is whipping up the same controversy which saw the "Harry Potter" series based on the novels by British author J. K Rowling, accused by some on the religious right of promoting witchcraft.

The author's attack on organized religion has been toned down for the film, in a bid to attract as wide as audience as possible, something director Chris Weitz has acknowledged.

"In the books the Magisterium is a version of the Catholic Church gone wildly astray from its roots," Weitz wrote in the British Daily Telegraph.



Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071204003305.4utrub9c&show_article=1
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 11:56 PM
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1. We wouldn't want our children to THINK now, would we?
To QUESTION? Can you imagine?
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:40 AM
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5. Sure...
we should teach them to always question scientific facts, and to not question mythology.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:03 AM
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2. Looks like they have nothing better to do,
then try to stage boycotts of harmless movies. A children's movie at that.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:17 AM
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4. You'd think these groups would find it easier to promote the movies they approve. . .
rather than work so hard to wage an essentially fruitless boycot, one which serves more to promote than it does to deter.

If they spent time promoting those movies which reflect the values they wish to encourage, their success would encourage production of similar films, thus advancing their cause. As it is, they neither advance their beliefs nor stifle their foes, as is readily seen in the numbers, both the box office take and the continuing sequels.

Ah, but as I've been told quite often, common sense isn't.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:15 AM
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20. Shh. Don't give them ideas. I want their tactics to remain counterproductive. -nt
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:14 AM
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6. controversy is good
I had already planned to see it, but I know several people who had never heard of The Golden Compass who decided to read the books themselves or to see the film just because of the controversy. I don't know anyone who has decided not to see it.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 07:40 AM
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8. These people have decided not to see it.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:45 PM
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32. No doubt....
they'll just stay home with their kids watching wholesome Christian family fare like that Mel Gibson bloodfest, Passion of the Christ. I really think that fewer people will stay away because of the frowny Christianists than will attend just to see what all the hubbub is about or just to spite them. If you were the teenage child of one these people, wouldn't you be spending your winter break scheming to see the forbidden fantasy film?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:20 AM
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7. "The Best Picture Oscar was accepted on behalf of the fundamentalists...
who made sure the movie was a huge success, out grossing even "Harry Potter and the Curse of Homosexuality.""
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 07:53 AM
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9. Well, I guess now I'll HAVE to go and see it!
:evilgrin:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 07:58 AM
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10. Fuck them. I don't remember anyone out protesting the Narnia movie. Or E.T..n/t
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:22 PM
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23. The Narnia stores are Christian allegory
Aslan is a Christ archetype.

Be that as it may, some of the less bright RRR's sometimes get in an uproar about them until some of their sane(r) colleagues slap them upside of the head.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:47 PM
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26. They seem to view it as the "Anti Narnia" movie
Hmmmm...I wonder what C.S. Lewis would say...


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

C. S. Lewis

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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:24 AM
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11. GOOD
free publicity is always good. 'hey kids, don't you dare see that evil movie!' will guarantee more go see it.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:32 AM
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12. Exactly
now even more people will go see the movie. Read the book and found it quite dull but then fantasy isn't my favorite genre.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:38 AM
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13. I hate going to see a movie on opening weekend,
but I might have to make an exception for this one!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:39 AM
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14. Oh man would I LOVE to go into a theater just to watch the jaws hitting the floor
from what I learned about this book here on DU I would bet the response would be the same as when me and two of my buddies went to a matinee of "Ace Ventura"--the part at the end in which Sean Young's character is literally revealed to be a man..... wow the gasps from all the parents of ALL the 8 year olds in that theater had us laughing for HOURS
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:47 AM
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15. My daughter has read this trilogy along with other Pullman novels
and loved them. He is a fantastic writer. And even after reading them she is still a fine, well adjusted, 15 year old now. She still goes to church on Sunday, etc. I have never restricted anything my daughter read. She is also an avid reader to this day and enjoys everything from history to poetry and everything in between. These so called defenders of religion sure do scare easily!! They have so little real faith that there is NOTHING that can sway a true believer!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:25 AM
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16. they're pissed that the villain is named Coulter.
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:09 AM
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19. ever wonder where coulter comes from...?
Cult?
Occult?
Definitely sounds like a villain.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:58 AM
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21. It comes from the word for a person that buggers small horses.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:44 AM
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34. *snort*
:spray: :toast:
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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:07 AM
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17. "promoting witchraft"....
Can you say "Inquisition"? Burning at the stake?

For some people witch hunting doesn't seem to be a terrible mistake sometime in the darkness of history but quite real and present.
Scaring...

I say we burn them witchhunters!!! (Mob with torches charging forward)
^_^
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:08 AM
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18. If they don't want their kids to see the movie then just don't allow them
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:18 PM
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22. Our family went to a sneak preview last weekend....
and we really enjoyed it. There was no hint of religion and when I discussed this with my husband, after the movie, a man stopped to talk to us. I explained the whole controversy to him and he said, "Well, I just saw the movie and I still believe in God!". All of this is much ado about nothing.

I will say to stick it out through the movie because it starts off a little choppy, but it is really great toward the end. I hope you all enjoy it.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:25 PM
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24. Keep in mind that, as usual, those yelling the loudest have no clue...
...as to what the movie, much less the books, is about.

They have not seen the movie, as one critic, the Catholic League blowhard William Donohue, freely admits. Yet, he says, such an omission does not matter in his passing definitive judgment on the unfitness of it.

My response is the usual. If you don't want to see it, don't go. See how that saves points on your blood pressure?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:14 PM
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30. Proof positive that those who object are less concerned about
an affront to their creed than they are concerned about potential loss of influence and power.
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:27 PM
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25. I can't believe that in the 2000s
We still, LITERALLY, have witchhunts.

All that are missing are pitchforks.

I'm more afraid of the Christian protesters than a damned movie. One's fictional...the other is a very real threat to rational society.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 01:48 PM
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27. Thank you, Catholic League! I was wondering what to take the kids to see over the holidays!
If the Catholic League hates it, then I know it's a must see. I prefer to raise my children with their eyes (and MINDS) open...not closed, clouded, or deluded by authoritarian religious assholes.

J
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:10 PM
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29. They need to raise their Zippers
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:35 PM
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31. Exactly. If that big blowhard Bill Donohue rails about something,
it's worth looking at!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:07 PM
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28. Oh good...I'll definitely take my kid to see it now.
Maybe we'll take it in a few times, in fact.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:27 AM
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33. Does Narnia and all those other bible stories promote...
Xtianity?? i thin it does!! So those zealots need to sit down and shut the fuck up.

But whats more, all these stories have something in commen: THEY ARE ALL FICTION.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:12 PM
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35. This is probably why this film was made.
They saw the success of the Harry Potter films after the uproar over those books, lol! I only read the books after I heard they were being boycotted, and I think the christian ight wingnuts for that.

The "His Dark Materials" trilogy is a great read, btw.
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