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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:01 AM
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Bush, Putin Discuss Iran's Nuclear Programme
Source: Deutsche Presse-Agentur

Moscow - Russian President Vladimir Putin and his US counterpart George W Bush discussed Iran's nuclear programme in a telephone call Tuesday after US intelligence released a report that seemingly undermines US demands for sanctions against Teheran. The Russian and US leaders spoke for 40 minutes focussing on questions surrounding Iran's controversial nuclear programme, Interfax reported a Kremlin spokesman as saying.

Immediately after the talk Putin welcomed Saeid Jalili, Iran's top nuclear negotiator, at his residence near Moscow, hailing the Islamic state's recently improved cooperation with the UN's nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

"I am pleased that your country has stepped up contacts with the IAEA ... and expect your nuclear programme to be open, transparent and controllable by the agency," Putin said on Tuesday.

Russia, which is building Iran's first nuclear power plant, has made a push to strengthen diplomatic ties with the country, even as its relations with the United States have become strained over US missile defence plans and criticism of Russia's weekend elections.

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On Friday, the first shipments of nuclear fuel, inspected by the IAEA, left far eastern Russia destined for Iran's Bushehr power plant.

Read more: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/153027.html
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:57 AM
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1. Wow, Bush and Putin talking about something that doesn't exist.
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RantinRavin Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:01 PM
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2. HUH ?
Iran's nuclear program does indeed exist.

Iran's nuclear WEAPON program is what does not exist.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:14 PM
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4. Nuance, anyone?
:lol:
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:43 AM
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9. Bush has never, ever said "Nuclear" he says "Nucular"
In his mind, I probably have a nucular reactor in my bathtub, but that doesn't make it any more real. Then again, I always have hot water, so maybe he's on to something, though I'm betting on the gas-fired boiler.

The fact that he intentionally calls it "nucular" has always led me to believe he KNOWS there is no such thing, that "WMD", in his world stands for something completely different (have you ever heard him say "weapons of mass destruction"?) and, finally, that God's not gonna get him for lying about something imaginary - plausible deniability. However, that probably won't get him off the hook with Jesus for over a million needless deaths, an unknown number of murders, leaving two countries in physical and financial ruin (as well as several others scared shitless and harmed to varying degrees), populations destitute and enabling the money changers. But why quibble over incidentals? God hates the poor and doesn't care much for brown people either, so it's no big deal.

The media was all over the NIE story today. Even David Gregory didn't cut him a break at the presser and Helen Thomas was X'd out on the seating chart 'cause SOMEONE in the WH has half a brain. Why someone didn't just come right out and ask him "What the fuck is WRONG with you?" is beyond me, but he lost another couple of points in the polls while the evening news was playing. If the MSM continues to run with this, he'll have the lowest approval rating in pResidential history by Xmas, and his legacy will be cemented.

Though China and Russia are probably going to push to end sanctions against Iran (as they should), Britain and France are still *'s biggest cheerleaders for sanctions and other actions against Iran. That will be problematic. It may take a vote of no confidence in Britain (I don't know how the French government works) to silence the drumbeat of war among our strongest allies. Sarkozy proved to be a chickenhawk out of the gate and Gordon Brown was hand-picked by *'s lapdog, Tony Blair - the worst enabler of disastrous American foreign policy England has ever produced. Internal pressure from the opposition parties and citizens in both countries is vital if this madness is to be halted.

I won't even attempt to predict how this is going to shake out, but I do know that anyone who already believed they may have been lied to is now incensed, and many in his base have had their eyes opened. People from both those groups are going to begin writing and calling their Congressional representatives in earnest and demanding an end to the Iraq occupation, funding of the neocon/chickenhawk/NWO agenda and Congressional oversight of an out of control WH. You know, for Congress to begin doing the work we demanded of them last year. But I'm not holding my breath. A lot of people can't even afford to buy stamps lately and it may take a while for the anger to trickle up.

Dear Santa....
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:30 AM
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10. this is already been pretty damaging so i think they'll simply respond with
'NEW intel'! they can say they've decided to 'declassify' some super-sekret intel that demonstrates what an apocalyptic threat iran really is. though i'm not sure who would believe them.

now, i'm really hoping the media, in the next few days, chooses to make clear that bush and friends deliberately sat on the NIE for a YEAR and better still, that congress decides this is worthy of an in-depth investigation. but, with pelosi blocking investigation and only leahy seemingly willing to ask the questions that need asking who knows?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:10 AM
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11. "What the fuck is WRONG with you?" -- The question heard around the world.
:rofl:

Way past time to ask that...

Thanks for the deep insight DCKit. :)
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:12 PM
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3. Gee, what a misleading headline...
Should read:

"Bush, Putin Discuss Iran's Lack of A Nuclear Programme"

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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:18 PM
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5. Bush is wanting a war with Iran so bad it's killing him
so he can make money from oil for him and his croonies.
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:22 PM
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6. Oh yeah?
How do you figure? We don't have the troops to hold down any territory in a country of 70 million people. The goal isn't to go in and occupy.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 06:57 PM
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7. The Khuzestan Oil Fields are rich indeed, and just over the Iraqi border
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:55 PM
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8. Yes, indeed.
As of now, Iran is the only country that stands between Bush effectively owning the Middle East.
And yes, they do have enormous oil reserves. They also have the world's largest reserves of natural gas.

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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:34 AM
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12. I hope he is looking into his eyes again.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:13 PM
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13. China put in its two cents, and Bush won't be happy
China's UN ambassador on Tuesday suggested an agreement by six world powers to seek new sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program could be called into question by the latest US intelligence
assessment.

Asked to comment on the US intelligence community's stunning revelation Monday that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003, Ambassador Wang Guangya called it "an important report."

"Certainly I think we will study the contents and also think about the implications for the (UN Security) Council's action here," he said.

Pressed by reporters on whether the assessment might make new sanctions against Iran less likely in the near term, the Chinese diplomat said: "I think Council members will have to consider that, because ... now things have changed."

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-xxCuXcK_d4H5pOTKwqy-HlUofw
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