House votes to outlaw CIA waterboarding

Source: Reuters

House votes to outlaw CIA waterboarding

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Democratic-led House of Representatives voted on Thursday to outlaw harsh interrogation methods, such as simulated drowning, that the CIA has used against suspected terrorists.

On a 222-199 vote, the House approved a measure to require intelligence agents to comply with the Army Field Manual, which meets the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of war prisoners and prohibits torture.

The measure passed amid a congressional probe into the recent disclosure that the CIA destroyed videotapes of al Qaeda suspects undergoing waterboarding, a simulated drowning.

Many countries, U.S. lawmakers and human rights groups have accused the United States of torturing terror suspects since the September 11 attacks.

President George W. Bush says the United States does not torture but the administration will not disclose what interrogation methods are used.

(Reporting by Thomas Ferraro; editing by Lori Santos)



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071213/pl_nm/security_usa_torture_dc

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...fucking idiots....

He loves home movies of young men screaming as their rectums are savaged with Plastic Flashlights (see the report by General Taguba on the torture at Abu Ghraib) its on the net

Everything else is a lie.

that we all know is illegal. Just another storyline for the political soap opera or political WWE match to keep us occupied and believing that they are actually in politics to serve and do the right thing...yeah sure!

House votes to apologize for outlawing CIA waterboarding

"Isn't that, like a TV show?"

Evidently the media think we are too stupid to look up bills and votes.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1160.xml

Looks like 10 Dems voted NO.

that which is illegal already?
Just political posturing to appease
the sheeple who buy their line of
shit to start with.

Unless they enforce the laws we already have, this means nothing to me.

There are laws in place. Frankly, nobody knows if they work or not, because nobody really enforces them.

Bush will just veto it, or 'signing statement' it to the memory hole.

Hey Representatives - this ain't rocket science. Are you listening?

:shrug:

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re-vote, I wonder what the final vote would be?

3 votes to outlaw waterboarding.
2 abstentions because the representative is dead of heart failure.
194 votes that the representative is a terrorist and a serial killer and anything else that you want to hear to make the torture stop.

The fact that we're even having a debate about whether or not we should torture makes me want to torture people.

Dennis Kucinich apparently voted No. Does he need to be waterboarded? Kicked in the balls? I'd suggest we read the full text of the bill and make some inroads into understanding the content and implcations therein before we decide whether this bill is all its cracked up to be.

I say he needs to give it a try if he says it ain't torture.

Thanks for dropping by with your infinite wisdom, dumbass.

Is that what I said, you slack-jawed, slope-headed, knuckle-dragging excuse for a Homo sapiens? In all seriousness, its childish and puerile discourse such as that which spews from your fingertips that gives Democrats a bad name. You're honestly an embarrassment to humanity when you chime in with such idiocy.

Your personal failings aside: Waterboarding is already considered unacceptable under the Geneva Convention. What is the remaining content of the bill in question? Have YOU read the bill (CAN you?) read the bill? Since this part of it is essentially redundant, restricting interrogation methods to the Army Field Manual, which itself is DIRECTLY informed by the provisions of the Geneva Convention, what else lurks in this bill? Let's see..

Subtitle B - Central Intelligence Agency
Section 421 -
Establishes the position of Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, who shall be appointed by the President. Outlines Deputy Director duties. Requires the DNI to recommend to the President a nominee to fill any vacancy in such position. States that the commissioned officer currently performing the duties of the Deputy Director shall neither be subject to the supervision or control of the Secretary of Defense nor exercise any supervision or control over DOD personnel.
Section 422 -
Makes inapplicable to the CIA Director a requirement to submit to the intelligence committees an annual report on actions taken to ensure the auditability of CIA financial statements.
Section 423 -
Amends the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949 to authorize CIA protective detail personnel to make arrests without a warrant: (1) for any offense against the United States committed in their presence; or (2) when having reasonable cause to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing a felony. Authorizes the CIA Director to make such personnel available to the DNI.

Section 432 -
Authorizes the NSA Director to designate NSA personnel to perform protective functions for the Director and any NSA personnel designated by the Director. Authorizes such protective personnel to make arrests without a warrant: (1) for any offense against the United States committed in their presence; or (2) when having reasonable cause to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing a felony.
Section 434 -
Requires the directors of the NSA, NGIA, and NRO to be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.

Hmm. All these sound like reasons to vote against HR.2082.

Still waiting for a reply, coward.

I mean, besides that, this is a great move, like the Reichstag passing a bill that says Hitler can't have concentration camps.

Very effective way of dealing with Arch-Criminals, that.