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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:39 PM
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9/11 report: No Iraq link to Al-Qaida
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:42 PM
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1. Well, no sh**.
I'm pleased that they "officially" make this point, but I'm sure many of the dittoheads and freepers will continue to pass this around anyway.
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Itascapark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:43 PM
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2. Oh no!!
You mean Bush and Co. lied?!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:46 PM
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3. OOOOOoooooooh.....
From the article:

"Former Democratic Georgia Sen. Max Cleland, who was a member of the joint congressional committee that produced the report, confirmed the official's statement.

Asked whether he believed the report will reveal that there was no connection between al-Qaida and Iraq, Cleland replied: "I do ... There's no connection, and that's
been confirmed by some of (al-Qaida leader Osama) bin Laden's terrorist followers."

The revelation is likely to embarrass the Bush administration, which made links between Saddam's support for bin Laden -- and the attendant possibility that Iraq might
supply al-Qaida with weapons of mass destruction -- a major plank of its case for war.

"The administration sold the connection (between Iraq and al-Qaida) to scare the pants off the American people and justify the war," said Cleland. "What you've seen
here is the manipulation of intelligence for political ends." <snip>
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:48 PM
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4. Someone could read between the lines?
Those heavy black ones crossing out major pieces of
information?
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:54 PM
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6. Cleland was deposed from the senate
by the junta, for this very reason. You have a war hero, who lost his limbs in battle, calling the neo-cons on their LIES. That wouldnt have went over well with the american people. So you install a neo-con toady like Scumbag Chambliss, .....same scenario as the Norm Coleman situation.

Cleland and Wellstone were HUGE obstacles for the neo-con war mongers. Their replacements are especially dirty.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:36 PM
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12. Scuttle butt is that Cleland is running for Zell Miller's vacant seat.
Best of luck and I encourage all Georgians to get out there for Max.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:46 PM
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13. Is that really so?
Is Zell up for election next year?

What happened to Max was just wrong.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:56 PM
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18. Zell is stepping down and I got the gossip about Max running from a
local station in Atlanta yesterday. I'd love to see it happen.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:53 PM
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5. I wonder if Tweety will jump on this one, too.
It supports his (and our) assertion that pre-war intel was hyped to the bejesus.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:02 PM
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7. Niger docs forged and now 911 report says
no link between Saddam and Osama! This is GREAT news, now I see why Bush & crew were trying so hard not to let this info get released. What is left on the list of "reasons" we invaded Iraq again?

This is BIG folks, the two main lies have been uncovered for all the world to see, IN WRITING.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:19 PM
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8. Cleland hit it right on when he said
there was no reason for this not to come out in January, except they wanted to get the war in first.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:25 PM
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10. For sure the WMDs
aren't left on the list!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:21 PM
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9. this is big.
For the informed American, this is not big news...but keep in mind how many people were led to believe the link existed. Didn't the polls say that 70% believed there was a connection between Iraq and Al-Qaida? I cringed every time I heard someone say that we had to bomb Iraq because we had to stop the terrorists.

Tomorrow will be another black Thursday for the WH and the more information that comes out concerning 9/11, the more ridiculous the GOP is going to look next September when they shamelessly attempt to exploit the tragedy for political gain. Having their convention weeks away from the 3rd anniversary and at a location close to where the WTC once stood? Today we learned Guiliani will be the first speaker...could it get any more ridiculous?

Graham has been making some cryptic remarks regarding the 9/11 investigation and I wonder if the published inquiry will shed more light.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:27 PM
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11. My local conservative newspaper
published a BIG, front page story - which continued on page 3 and took up almost the entire page - concerning the yellowcake fiasco and other problems for the WH. This is really significant, because until now, * could do no wrong in its pages.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:08 PM
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14. Huh?
"Newsweek magazine has also reported that German intelligence agencies - having interrogated one of Zakawi's associates - believed that Zakawi was not even an al-Qaida member, but headed a rival Islamic terror group."

So, we were wrong about the reasons to invade Afghanistan too?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:09 PM
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15. oh'Really? i wonder if they mention the HIGHLY UNUSUAL stock trades
leading up to 911, i've always wondered about that, along with a lot of other things...

do they mention the fbi agent who warned of some suspects who might fly a plane into the WTC? that was a pretty big 'dot' to miss.

and explaination of the blocking from the top the requests for to investigate these and the relaxing of the existing OBL investigation - suadi oil?

and i am dying to see why the delay in scrambling our fighters not to mention the official explaination on how and why the towers collapsed thats gotta be good!

i hope they didn't leave out building WT7 and why that fell in it's own footprint as well, let me guess it was designed that way, to fall in fright, the suspense is KILLING ME!

see for yerself...
http://globalfreepress.com/movs/911/wtc-7_collapse.mpg

boy do they got a lot of splain'n to do.

peace
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:10 PM
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16. DUH!
How long does it take to see the obvious?
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TripleD Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:33 PM
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17. You mean Bush* lied to Congress again?
In his legal justification:

March 18, 2003

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)

Consistent with section 3(b) of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), and based on information available to me, including that in the enclosed document, I determine that:

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone will neither (A) adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq nor (B) likely lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

Sincerely,

GEORGE W. BUSH

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:47 PM
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19. The UN figured this out last month
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:1e6wUa797tYJ:www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-qaeda27jun27,0,2740150.story%3Fcoll%3Dla-headlines-world+9/11+report:+No+Iraq+link+to+Al-Qaeda&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

U.N. Panel Finds No Iraq Link to

The committee says that despite the allegation by Powell of a connection, the U.S. never provided any evidence to back up the charge.

UNITED NATIONS — A U.N. committee has found no evidence of links between Iraq and Al Qaeda, but the panel said Thursday that the terrorist network can look to new recruits of suicide bombers in Morocco and elsewhere.

The committee, charged with reporting on Al Qaeda and remnants of Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime, released a 42-page report on the state of international terrorism following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

"Nothing has come to our notice that would indicate links between Iraq and Al Qaeda," said Michael Chandler, one of five outside experts who prepared the report for the committee.

"That doesn't mean to say it doesn't exist. But from what we've seen, the answer is 'no,' " he told a news conference.

Chandler said the first he had heard of any alleged links was during a presentation to the Security Council in February by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell. Then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's purported ties to Al Qaeda were used by the Bush administration as a justification for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March.

more

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:05 AM
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20. What's next? No Santa?No Easter Bunny?
No s**t?
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