Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Family lost on Christmas tree hunt found alive

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:34 PM
Original message
Family lost on Christmas tree hunt found alive
Source: CNN

(CNN) -- A father and his three teenage children have been found alive in the rugged hills of northern California, authorities said Wednesday.

The father and his children vanished after venturing into the snowy woods to cut down a Christmas tree on Sunday.

The family was found alive about 1 p.m. (4 p.m. ET), said Trina Wehle, dispatch supervisor for the Butte County Sheriff's Department.

Earlier Wednesday, more than 80 searchers combed the rugged hills looking for Frederick Dominguez and his three teenage children.

Dominguez's former wife, Lisa Sams, reported Dominguez and their three children missing on Monday evening, according to police in Paradise, California, a town of 27,000 that is roughly 90 miles north of Sacramento.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/19/missing.family.found/index.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
1. Thanks for posting an update
It's funny; I only heard they were missing a few hours ago, but I've been worried.

I'm happy they're okay. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:38 PM
Response to Original message
2. Good news!
Glad to hear that they were found alive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
3. been on DU too long
I see where this post is going
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. So far, so good
I'm glad to see that it hasn't deteriorated yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
4. Nice to have a happy ending this time!! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
5. thank you, i'm relieved to hear that! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'm so glad they're safe ...
It was awful, hearing about that poor family that got lost on the coast, a while back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
7. Great news. They'll be so glad to get home. Thank you. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
8. Good news.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
9. there are things to be thankful for. and this is certainly one of them
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 06:44 PM
Response to Original message
10. That is wonderful news
I'm sure that mother is beside herself with joy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
12. "tree hunt?"
Ward said the family told him "they were out there Christmas tree hunting and they got stuck in the snow and got lost."


Tree hunting? Christmas tree hunting? Never having celebrated the usurped pagan holiday, I was never too up on what people do for it (aside from the 24/7 barrage on TV/radio/newsmedia starting around mid November), but I suddenly feel that I know so very little about it.

What does one do on a tree hunt? How do you skillfully track a tree through the woods? More importantly, how do you discern a 'Christmas tree' from your every-day, run-of-the-mill evergreen?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. "tree hunting" in the national forest
their being lost then found seems to overshadow that what they were doing was a crime to mother earth. x( Glad they were found but I hope next year they get a tree somewhere else rather than poaching one from a national forest.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. National forests sell permits for people to harvest Christmas trees.
For many it's a fun tradition to go into the forest to find a tree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:03 AM
Response to Reply #16
20. Oh, Thanks for that info
I didn't know that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. Yep! I've done it myself a few times.
You can get a permit for $10, which is usually a lot cheaper than retail lots (I bought my tree at a lot this year and paid $40 for a 6 footer). The national forests usually plow that fee money back into their tree planting programs, and the $10 gained from losing one tree can help to plant five more. Since the cut trees are typically less than 5 years old, the impact to the forest is minimal.

More importantly, in my opinion, tree cutting programs like these help to foster a connection between people and the forest. I grew up looking forward to our family tree hunt, and I regret that I can't offer my own kids that same experience every year (the NF nearest to my home stopped selling permits in the 1980's, though they're now considering opening it back up). Those wintertime treks through the forest to find the perfect tree helped to instill a love of the forest that still perists today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #13
24. Kill a tree for Christ!
They should get a fake tree, just like fake fur (fir?) :hippie:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #13
26. Maybe you don't know this down there in Los Angeles
but there is a big difference between a national forest, and a national park. As for crimes against 'mother earth', are you posting from a house made at least partly of wood, or does your cave have an Internet connection?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
14. local story w/map
http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_7760153

A San Francisco 49ers beanie cap worn by the youngest of the four was found by a family friend just before noon, providing a point to focus the search.

Shortly thereafter, a CHP helicopter able to join the search since weather conditions had eased, found the word "help" spelled out with twigs on the snow. Radio traffic reported two people were sighted waving frantically. All four then emerged and were recovered.

The four apparently survived by huddling in a concrete culvert under the A-Line logging road.

..snip

The search had been focused on the area north of Inskip until family friend Kevin Salzbury found the black beanie about three-quarters of a mile west of the junction of Powellton Road and the Skyway, south of Inskip.

..snip

and the other sadder story is that a Chico State history professor, his wife and nephew died when their car was run off the road and found upside down in a ditch this morning. Their 19 year old son survived. Woodland is outside of Sacramento. Please drive carefully and watch out for other drivers.

http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_7759847
UPDATE: Chico State professor, two others killed in watery crash
By E-R Staff
Article Launched: 12/19/2007 08:28:10 AM PST


A handout photo of Weikun Cheng, a Chico State University history professor. Cheng, his wife...
WOODLAND — A Chico State University history professor, Weikun Cheng, his wife Xiaoping, and their nephew died in an automobile accident at about 6:25 a.m. today on Highway 113, just north of Seymour Road.
Their son Stephen, 19, survived.

California Highway Patrol reports a vehicle was found upside down in a water-filled roadside ditch.

Professor Cheng has taught at Chico State since 1997, teaching Asian and world history. His specialty is the historical view of Chinese women, a topic on which he wrote a book that is due out next year, said university spokesman Joe Wills.

Officers are searching for the driver of a second car who allegedly forced the crashed auto off the road and into the ditch. The second vehicle did not stop at the scene.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 10:19 PM
Response to Original message
15. This should be combined with the previous post
But good news they were found alive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:38 PM
Response to Original message
17. Glad they're safe...Hope next year
they BUY a tree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #17
23. They probably did buy the tree. Forest Service sells permits.
For many families, it is a tradition.

However, they should've been way better prepared. I hope they learn from their experience.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. I hope others learn from their experience, too
It's an annual event out west- some person or family wanders up from the relatively mild valleys and into the mountains without proper gear- or without making local inquiries and gets lost (and as often as not- gets dead).

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. I'm glad to hear they sell permits.
I thought they were illegally chopping them down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:42 PM
Response to Original message
18. Very good news!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
19. Was really glad to hear this
This morning on MSNBC, I think, reports were pretty bleak.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 10:51 AM
Response to Original message
21. It's a festivus miracle!!!
I know the fun it is of going out and cutting ones own christmas tree, my dad and I used to do it. However, before going out on such an outing, we would always check THE WEATHER REPORT!!!

When you live in that part of the country at this time of the year, storms are very likely. And since they were more than likely not in a cell phone accessible area, various precautions should have been taken.

but they are alive and that is the main thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 06:50 PM
Response to Original message
27. yes, but did they find a good tree?
seriously though, nice to see a happy ending. i bet they will be getting an artificial tree next year.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 05:14 AM
Response to Original message
29. My old stomping grounds...
I've been through Inskip and that area many times, driving up to go camping on the national forest lands.

A tragedy happened in Inskip about 4 years ago -- a severely mentally ill man killed two of Butte County's finest deputies in a worthless gun battle that also left him dead. He was psychotic, delusional and hearing voices. The sad thing was that the same two cops had come to my house one night a few months earlier when I called reporting lights and noises in the vacant house next door to mine. They were super nice. Turns out the landlord was doing stuff at 2:00 AM for some bizarre reason, had left, but had left lights and a TV on... go figure.

Never wander into the woods in bad weather without carrying a knapsack of survival equipment. Doesn't have to be much -- first, make sure you can start a fire. It will save your life. A few lighters, perhaps a small airtight metal bottle of camp fuel or some fire-starter sticks. Carry a mylar space blanket -- they weigh next to nothing. Carry a compass and a reflection mirror for signalling. 1000 lb. test nylong rope (actually very thin). Water purification tablets. Safety pins and a small sewing kit. A knife. A few clothes pins. Some very high fat/protien snacks that will last for years in their foil. A metal cup for drinking. Water if the area is very dry, otherwise collect water and purify it. Of course, if you have the money, buy a GPS device and carry a map of the area.

First aid equipment is vital too. Pain relievers, previously mentioned water purification tablets, bandages of all sizes (including an ace bandage), first aid instructions, anti-nausea and anti-diarheaha medicine... All of the above can fit into an amazingly small and light set of bags-- the size of fanny packs.

Now, if you get lost, DON'T WANDER. Stay put and start a fire and keep it going. If it is in the summer, a fire outpost will eventually see the smoke. If it is in the winter, it will KEEP YOU ALIVE and will signal for help. Start with the smallest twigs then add larger and larger branches. Let the fire make a lot of smoke. Anyone looking for you will see the smoke eventually.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 01:51 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC