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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:15 AM Original message |
Cloned Animals May Be Used for Food in U.S., FDA Says |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. "Cloned Animals May Be Used for Food" |
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phrigndumass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
90. I'm gonna eat ME some Dollyburgers! |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
194. With animals fed hormones, antibiotics, and slaughterhouse offal, cloning is the least worrisome. nt |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
195. Not that funny, and not a remote possibility, unless we take action |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. it's just meat.... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. well, yes and no... you are what you eat |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. do you know where I might find information on |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. here's one, for starters |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. I'm going to try googling but it's going to take |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
169. Just pick up a copy of "the future of food". It's a great prima to get you going. nt. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. no, food you eat and digest doesn't "screw with your genetics...." |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. hey, you don't have to listen to me... eat whatever you like |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. unless you're eating paleolithic foods-- real paleolithic foods, left over... |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. plants and animals are different |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. yes do read it-- but read it from an informed perspective, not... |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. so we agree |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. well ok, but this is not really a "new technology" from the perspective... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
113. That's Completely Misleading |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. animal cloning isn't "splicing and dicing" either.... |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. I agree. People shouldn't be allowed to decide for themselves what they eat! |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. none of that had ANYTHING to do with what I posted.... |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:09 PM Original message |
The whole point of this article, to me, is that the FDA doesn't want it labeled. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
103. no, I don't agree with that, but I'll be happy to clarify.... |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Hah! OK Doc. |
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The Minus World (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #107 |
141. Bio 101A |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
125. "The only persons with potential to be harmed are the farmers and the food production industry." |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. as you said, you didn't take the time to read it... |
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TroglodyteScholar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #127 |
136. Why read further... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. OK, if you HAD read it you would have known... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #103 |
182. "a shocking level of biological illiteracy" INDEED. |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
196. If you aren't given the opportunity to NOT buy cloned or GM food, your are no more than a guinea pig |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
114. Once Again, You Are Misleading People |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. oh come on-- clonal reproduction has nothing to do with "splicing and injecting genes..." |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
181. Thank you for ACTUALLY KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Screw with your genetics? Only if you mate with it |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
62. hmmmm... if that were true, there would be no cancer |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. generally that's not the case.... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
94. cancer can be caused by all sorts of things...many of the chemicals we encounter these days |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. So now you're saying cloned meat causes cancer? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. no, I'm saying changes to the RNA/DNA amino acid chains |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
105. with all due respect ,you're showing some biological illiteracy.... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #105 |
153. yeah, you're right... I meant "enzymes" |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. You won't have a choice. It won't be stated on the label here in the U.S. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
71. Biologically Its the equivalent of eating an identical twin. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. I can assure you that you do indeed drink cloned coffee... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
116. More Misleading Information! |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. lie? it's freshman biology, my friend.... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. What Food Animals Have the Ability to Spontaneously Regenerate? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. crustaceans for a start.... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #116 |
139. There isn't a biological distinction is the point. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
115. That Made a Lot of Money For the Cloning Company |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #115 |
140. What's your point? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #140 |
152. Ah, Yes |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. Thats certainly your prerogative. |
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sentelle (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #152 |
173. right |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
91. Unless the food is radioactive or contains mutagenic compounds, your DNA is safe. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. anything we put into our body can affect it... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Any foreign body permanently embedded into the body is bad. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:36 AM Response to Reply #95 |
142. LOL...unless your charring the cloned meat, barbecue style, it won't |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
172. That's insane. |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
174. What you wrote is unscientific nonsense |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
97. Why do we need to clone animals in the first place |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #97 |
117. Because Some People Think They Have a Great Way to Get Rich Off of Cloning |
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Thor_MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #97 |
131. Because Beau the bull was damn delicious... |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #131 |
155. mmmmm....beauburgers |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. f*ck the FDA-"The agency hasn't recommended any special labeling for such products." nt |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
180. That's my main "beef" |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. I've heard a lot of people worry a whole lot about cloned meat |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. A reasoned response ... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. but that has no impact on their suitability as food.... |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Why not plain old artificial insemination? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. yup-- that's one reason that I seriously doubt that clonal technology... |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Why can't |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. At present we can't do that for a variety of reasons.... |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. oh okay, thanks for the info! |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Spot on ... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I think clonal tech will be viable for animal tissue production one day... |
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Dumak (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
69. Oh Goodie ... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. lol-- when you think about it... |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You sound so certain.... |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Cloned animals may not be identical yet |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. FDA allows this with NO labelling |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I completely agree that the FDA is garbage |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. I talked about that a little up thread.... |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. Poison? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. I almost included that possibility, but... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:30 AM Response to Reply #49 |
149. Great post. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. A.I. use is widespread in meat and dairy production. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
77. Fair question. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. IIRC, I have read several articles suggesting that cloning cost more |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Again, I'm not remembering the details... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. it's hard to imagine what those cases might be.... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
118. Even That's Been Debunked, Now |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #77 |
150. What sort of cases? |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Thanks for that post |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. cloned animals die at a younger age than normal-not nice to fool mother nature |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Food animals die at a younger age anyway, to become food. |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Definitely something to be weary about until we figure out |
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The Minus World (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
143. That piece would be |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
8. If this isn't a case for vegetarianism, I don't what is... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Better watch out for cloned plants, too, right? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. logical, informative reply |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. glad you like it... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
89. So your issue's not the cloning... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Yes, that's my deal. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Alright then. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Oh, so you don't like my objections? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #93 |
183. Better stop eating veggies, then - otherwise you're a hypocrite. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
35. People have been eating cloned plants for centuries. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Inefficient as well as gross. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
119. Go Cut Off a Cow's Head And Put It In Water, See If a Cow Grows Back |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. you've been harping about this all over this thread.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
79. Except many fruits and vegetables are just clones of each other. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
109. isn't "clones of each other" a bit redundant...? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. This Whole False Argument Is Redundant |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. you've spread this drivel all over this thread.... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. I Have Responded to Your (and Others') Misleading Pro-Cloning Arguments |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. responded WRONGLY, with misunderstandings-- it's clear that... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. If I'm So Ignorant |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. learn some biology, Crisco-- your ravings will make more sense... |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #134 |
161. You are very rude |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. rude? Crisco called me a liar... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #162 |
163. You Accuse Me of Being Ignorant ... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. ah-- sorry-- I think it was the old bat-boy avatar... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. Heheheh |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #133 |
184. He already DESTROYED that flimsy argument. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #184 |
188. You Should Try Seeing the Forest Through the Trees |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. No, you clearly DON'T know enough biology. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. I Don't Know Enough About Biology For What? To Make a Cloned Animal? No Shit |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #130 |
171. I've read all your posts, Mike |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #171 |
197. Many of the developed nations of Europe BAN genetically modified foods... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. The only problem with the cloned meat is: |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
15. Meh, they know that NOTHING they can do to animals will stop people |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
26. Of course, the choice to just not eat this shit still exists. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
148. You have a moral objection. |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
178. A planetary choice, not just personal taste |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
27. a little soylent green around the corner? . . . |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
28. Gross. Buy organic and local n/t |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
31. Many fruits and nuts are clones and have been for generations |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. cloning plants is something that we humans have had some experience with |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
177. I couldn't agree more, Tumbulu |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
123. Again - When You Can Cut Off A Cow's Head, Stick It In Water & Grow a New One ... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #123 |
165. this just shows how little you know about biology.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #123 |
185. Once again, this nonsensical argument has been utterly defeated upthread. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
36. Just last night on Letterman they "joked" about glow in the dark cloned meat... |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
40. eur! |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
41. Just wait for it |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
110. You've got it right N/T |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
43. I've the pro and neg |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I dont see animal cloning doing anything for world hunger |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Yes, today, you're right... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
147. The thing is, winter... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #147 |
192. In Factory Farming |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
146. Not really. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
47. but no full stem cell research, no no, can't have that! n/t |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. duh, its okay to play God when it comes to animals |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. I don't believe anyone is playing God unless |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
111. well |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. who knows |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. lol |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. This has been the big push for cloning since the 1970s |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. cloning does NOT produce animals that are "exactly the same...." |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
104. I just reported why the FDA is for Cloning, it eliminates ONE set of Variables. |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
175. Who Cares About Frankenburgers? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. And here come the hordes of tinfoilers........... |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
59. Good bye meat and dairy! n/t |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
176. But think outside the (lunch)box, my friend |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. Gives a whole new meaning to the concept of a "double cheeseburger", doesn't it? |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:46 AM Response to Reply #61 |
151. LOL |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
65. Hmmmmmm honey my steak always tastes the same....n/t. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. It is inevitable |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. We don't know what the results of eating a cloned animal is |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
80. "I'll take some more untested, mass-produced animal product with my global warming, please!" |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
82. Cloned animals die younger and have arthritis and other problems. Are they sick? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
145. Not exactly. |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
84. I am weaning myself off of |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. I gave up all meat 12 years ago. You can get a lot of veggie meats like chick patties and |
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chasitynola (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
98. It is amazing to me |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
138. This could help the environment |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
144. Man, the only thing this thread has taught me is that more people need to take biology classes. |
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ironrooster (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #144 |
157. hold on there ! |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. setting aside the matter of prions for a second... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
156. Why I oppose cloning livestock for our food supply: |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. personally, I think it's really unlikely that cloning will be economically... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #159 |
167. Cloning as a means of preserving rare genetic lines from |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #156 |
186. "Do they really think we are stupid enough not to understand that?" |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
158. The question for me is, who stands to gain? |
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inMD (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
166. I have no problem eating cloned meat |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
170. The Scary Aura of Cloned Beef |
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Rose Rosetree (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
179. Hear Me Discuss This Topic on Radio Shows and Call In |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
187. Tony Auth |
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humus (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
190. get real |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
191. Kewl, Frankenfood. eom |
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