China build-up has US worried

Source: Times of India

16 Jan 2008, 0001 hrs IST

BEIJING: The top commander of the US Pacific Fleet raised concern on Tuesday over China’s military build-up and urged Beijing to clarify the intentions behind its increasingly sophisticated armed forces.

Admiral Timothy Keating said he urged Beijing to increase transparency in military affairs during talks with government and defence officials here which focused largely on the issue of Taiwan. "China’s military is developing very impressively," Keating said.

"We are concerned about the development of long-range cruise and ballistic missiles, we are concerned about their anti-satellite technology (and) we are concerned about area denial weapons."

In talks on Monday, Beijing agreed to bring military exchanges with the US to a higher level, a form of cooperation that could help allay growing concerns over the intentions behind China’s military build-up, he said.


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The US is NOW beginning to worry about China??

I'm not financing China. I didn't take any factory abroad. I swear I didn't. I'm surrounded by products of American companies that have the Chinese manufacture them, but I try not to buy them. It really pisses me off when they assume that everyone in the U.S. makes decisions for he U.S., when only the rich few do.

and 27 million reserve.

But numbers don't mean much in the age of technology and China is quickly catching up.

her military all in China's neighborhood. It's America that accounts for half of the military spending in the world. Do we realize how fucking stupid we sound on the world stage. Thanks to George Bush the world community is waking up, they don't trust us any more.

and China and Russia held joint war games last year,because of us.

Not for long. Osama is winning. The US economy is collapsing just like the Soviet Unions. Our military expenditures are unsustainable.

Would that be the Fat Osama or the Skinny One?

I just can't keep up. :eyes:

It was our support for rebels in Afghanistan that caused the collapse of the USSR.

Jay

No too bright are they?

"The top commander of the US Pacific Fleet raised concern on Tuesday over China’s military build-up and urged Beijing to clarify the intentions behind its increasingly sophisticated armed forces.

Beijing: "Making sure we don't end up another victim of your imperialist history and a target of choice for your cocaine-snorting Presidents. Sorry if we don't fall for the bullshit like your people do. Kindly, China".

...rabid unilateralism, trashing the non-nuclear proliferation treaty, PNAC, provocative armed actions in the Persian Gulf and Taiwan Strait, etc.


If I were China, I'd probably be doing the same thing.

-board of the 1890s.

Thus, China should tell us to go fuck ourselves. It's their Grand Chessboard to manuever on, too.

Plus, they are our banker and creditor. From the perspective of having us in hock tothe eyeballs, they should tells us to go fuck ourselves, too, or they'll preemptively strike us.

Reap what you sow, Bushies. Reap what you sow.

:rofl:

to China.. China can kick our ass, the US needs to mind their own damn business.

Don't know what you're basing your opinion on, but listen to the experts.

China is building its capability, however, and will be a threat at some point. Unfortunately, much of their advance is due to their successful espionage efforts against the USA.

I am a friend to the Chinese people but their government can stuff it.

The only thing the states could do is nuke'em, they would other wise have their asses handed to'em. The population numbers make that apparently clear

Plus, we obviously can not seem to be able to exist without them since we import everything from them and export basically nothing. A head on collision with China would be disastrous for the US.

The Chinese have nukes too. In the event of a real, all-out war between China and the U.S., both nations would be destroyed. They also have advanced missiles and do not need to match the U.S. in Naval power. Their airforce and Sunburn/Yakohntz missiles would be more than enough to match our fleet. If a conflict occurs, it won't be here in North America, it will be in Asia, where supply lines favor the Chinese. The only way to get to China, by air, sea, or land, is to mass a major invasion force on one of its coasts, since going through Middle Asia through the Middle East is not going to happen. Not only would this not happen (because the Chinese wouldn't just let us amass a force near them), but even if we got on land, we'd be facing the largest Army in the world. 7 MILLION PLA members, with at least 2.3 million Standing army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army).

And if we decide to take airstrikes against them, in order for our planes to reach their targets, we'd have to get close enough to get within range of their anti-ship missiles. Our planes would undoubtedly be either land or sea based, and either would be susceptible to counterattack. Any sea based plane would need a carrier that would be vulnerable to Chinese Sunburn, Exocets, and Yahkontz missiles, and any land based airport in a "friendly" country would be susceptible to conventional and nuclear missiles from China. I doubt any "friendly" nation would authorize their nation as a source of American attacks...which pretty much leaves only a naval-launch option.

They could also retaliate by refusing to fund our debt, refusing to allow products made in China to be sold in the U.S., etc. sure, this would hurt China...but our economy would tank...making this consequence a consideration to take into account before we strike.

I'm sure in any conflict, both nations would suffer greatly. The U.S. has no military option with China. It would be inviting military and economic retaliation that would cripple the U.S.

If we had a "military option", we would have exercised it during the Hainan Affair. Instead, the Hainan issue was the first "test" of a conflict between China and the U.S. The result: the U.S. was forced, through Colin Powell, to give an apology for the incident. In fact, the U.S. didn't want to apologize, and instead sent letters with "VERY SORRY" in them. The Chinese made them say "VERY SORRY" instead of a bland apology (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20010412/ai_n14381202)

and the Chinese returned the airplane...in PIECES...after thorougly investigating it for technological research. (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_2001_July_9/ai_76664467)

In other words...they did what they WANTED to do...and we couldn't do ANYTHING.

The US was not about to go to war over this incident. There was nothing we could do short of demand the safe return of crew and property, which we got, IIRC.

You seem to have forgotten Japan in your calculation of supply lines and air bases. I am pretty sure that the Pacific would not come under Chinese control; I am confident that the US Navy has anti-submarine war against the Chinese sufficiently gamed to ensure the best possibility for a win.

I am not sure that China would remain stable for very long if she were to go to war for any sufficient period of time. I also think you over-estimate the value of sheer numbers of troops.

but something tells me that when and if the U.S. and China go to war, it will not be by conventional means. I think we're headed toward a cold war with them as we speak, and after the Beijing Olympics are over, all bets are off.

WTF top commander of US blah blah!? Are you THAT stupid? Oh yeah, it is also called 'doing whatever the fuck we want because WE OWN YOUR COUNTRY'! China will rival us in a few years, maybe we shouldn't have sold our economic soul!

Stupid is as stupid does.

An admiral should be leading his fleet. Not doing Condi's job for her.

China: around 50B.

I wonder why we think the Chinese can't build any damn thing they want?

"We republicon crones are making Beaucoup Profits dealing with (SMIRK) the 'godless red commies in China. Smirk."

- Corrupt Bush brothers, BFEE

not to the people of China mind you, just to the military and the party leaders. China's military is bought and paid for by the American people. Nice, huh?

How many Megatons is the threshold for that description?

My husband's company has a new goal to get their China outsourcing up to 60%. If they had to choose between pulling all operations out of the U.S. or out of China, I bet they'd pull out of the U.S.

I foresee hard lessons ahead.

My husband is in upper management for a retail outfit. He rarely gets to interact with customers anymore but when he does, it can be entertaining. The other day was such an occasion. He saw an older gentleman looking at some workboots and the guy says, "If we ever go to war with China, your company is screwed!" referring to the fact that most shoes are made in China or some other asian country.

My husband quickly responded, "Sir, if we ever go to war with China, we're ALL screwed!"

China could sink our economy just by leaking they plan to sell a fraction of the $600 billion in U.S. Treasury notes and bonds they hold.

Look what happened when South Korea leaked a couple of years ago that they were going to diversify. The stock market dropped 300 points in one day.