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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:38 PM
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Chertoff: Tougher ID rules for borders
Source: Associated Press

Chertoff: Tougher ID rules for borders

By EILEEN SULLIVAN and DEVLIN BARRETT,
Associated Press Writers
30 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - New border-crossing rules that
take effect in two weeks will mean longer lines
and stiffer demands for ID, including for
returning Americans, Homeland Security
Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday.

A driver's license won't be good enough to get
Americans past a checkpoint at the Canadian or
Mexican border, Chertoff said. That will be a
surprise to many people who routinely cross the
border with Canada, but Chertoff bristled at
criticism that such extra security would be
inconvenient. More than 800,000 people enter
the U.S. through land and sea ports each day.

"It's time to grow up and recognize that if we're
serious about this threat, we've got to take
reasonable, measured but nevertheless determined
steps to getting better security," he said in an
interview with The Associated Press.

-snip-

Congressional critics representing Northern border
states were anything but impressed with Chertoff's
rhetoric.

His department has proved incapable of
implementing a 2004 law on border security, and
Chertoff "frankly has as much credibility on
telling people to 'grow up' as Geoffrey the
Giraffe," said Rep. Tom Reynolds, a Buffalo-area
Republican.

-snip-

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/border_security
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:42 PM
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1. Sometimes I wonder if Chertoff is trying to keep Americans in
or keep Americans out....

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:09 AM
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13. Skeletor is a very disturbed paranoid creature
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:47 PM
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2. Lawmakers Reject Chertoff's Border Rhetoric
~snip~

"It's time to grow up and recognize that if we're serious about this threat, we've got to take reasonable, measured but nevertheless determined steps to getting better security," he said in an interview with The Associated Press.

~snip~

Added Sen. Norm Coleman, a Minnesota Republican, "Secretary Chertoff's comments that those objecting to the plan need to 'grow up' indicates that the department still doesn't understand the practical effects of DHS policies on the everyday lives of border community residents."

Sen. Patrick Leahy, Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the move does nothing to enhance security and will only hurt the economy. "When it comes to the Northern Border, the muddled thinking and poor planning at DHS seems to have no bounds, and the agency that botched Katrina seems to have no shame and no memory to boot," Leahy said.

more:http://www.nbc5.com/news/15079915/detail.html?rss=chi&psp=nationalnews
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:50 PM
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3. DHS needs to go. period. it's un-American, IMO
fascist crap that is it. And the TSA should be right behind it.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:52 PM
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4. But only if they come through the proper entry points
Bush always goes for the low hanging fruit. Punish the legals for the actions of the illegals.
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:04 PM
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6. Republican border policy has a wall with a hole in it. A hole big enough to drive a truck through.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:52 PM
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5. Yip, it's only when the NORTHERN border gets squeaky for Rethugs that oil pours!1 n/t
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:07 PM
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7. I am pissed that I'll need a fucking passport
to get back into my own country. Is anyone else picturing WW2 movies with the gestapo
on a train demanding papers?
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:09 PM
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8. drug smugglers and such sneak in through
the parks on the Canadian/Washington border. I have this from a ranger who works in one.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:40 PM
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11. Marijuana, I presume.
Who smuggles more to whom, I wonder?
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:35 PM
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9. Chertoff should have been fired after the Katrina disaster. He's a Bush failure.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:26 PM
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10. Of Lovely
The reason they were forced to move the passports to 2009 is because this administration and their equally incompetent cronies are so far behind people are waiting 4 to 6 months to get a passport and if they do expedite them and people pay even overnight...they may not come for days or weeks. It is totally insane. You can't require people to do things you have no infrastructure to do it with. We have a broken military, broken Fema, broken healthcare, broken documentation, schools, police, fire support, roads etc, etc,

How sad, and these stupid bastards do not even realize what will happen when they create the anarchy they so crave.

Eat the rich.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 02:29 AM
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12. They Also Doubled the Fees for Passports
But I cannot recommend eating the rich. Most of them are way too high in cholesterol.

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