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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 06:35 AM
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Venezuela: 4 military officers in U.S., fleeing bombing charges
Posted on Wed, Jan. 14, 2004

Venezuela: 4 military officers in U.S., fleeing bombing charges
Associated Press

CARACAS, Venezuela - A Venezuelan prosecutor asked Interpol on Wednesday to help locate four dissident military officers thought to be in the United States evading arrest warrants in the bombing of two diplomatic missions in Caracas.

Prosecutor Gilberto Landaeta asked Interpol to find National Guard Gen. Felipe Rodriguez, Army Col. Yussepe Piliery and army lieutenants Jose Colina and German Varela, who are thought to be in Florida, according to a statement from the attorney general's office.

The four are charged with carrying out the Feb. 25, 2003 bombings of the Colombian consulate and Spanish embassy in Caracas. The blasts injured four people.

The attorney general's office said it had not yet determined what steps to take if the officers are found.

Carlos Bastidas, a lawyer for Rodriguez, said Colina and Varela were in the United States applying for political asylum. He said he did not know were Rodriguez and Piliery were but his own client had no plans to ask for asylum in any country.
(snip/...)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/7710260.htm

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Who would expect these right-wing loonytoons to show up in Miami, of all places? ¡snicker!
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:31 AM
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1. Silly question, but...
ummm, if these guys are suspected of bombing embassies, wouldn't that make them suspected terrorists.

So, wouldn't we have the full force of Homeland Security looking for them? Should be easy to find if they're looking for asylum.


Things like this really, really, make my head hurt.









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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:17 AM
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2. They'll be celebrated heroes in Miami
After all, any enemy of Chavez is an enemy of Castro and therefore a friend to the Bush regime and the hard core exiles who run Miami-Dade.

Here's the routine,

Once they get to Miami, they'll do the exile talk show circuit, lead a few parades, accept a few city commission medals for their bravery in the struggle against Castro, and then they'll be selling used cars at the Friendly Ford dealership.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:16 PM
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7. In George Bush's world known Cuban and Venezuelan terrorists
pass go, do not go to jail, and live happily ever after in Miami, Terrorist Center of the USSA. There's a whole slew of terrorists alive and well walking the streets of Miami. One of them was pardoned by Poppy!!

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:24 AM
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3. They are probably hanging out with the 'F-4 Commandos'
Last year, there were a few stories in the media, including the Wall Street Journal, about America's own little ex-Cuban terrorist group training Venezuelan anti-Chavez terrorists in a camp outside Miami. There were photos, etc...

They seemed to be quite out in the open about it, as if they knew they had nothing to worry about (even though they are breaking a host of US and Florida laws...). I mean, how many terrorist groups have a website, street address and phone number available to the public?



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:31 AM
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4. I read they heard about that article in Venezuela, too
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 10:45 AM by JudiLyn
where they took it pretty seriously at government levels.

It's really sad to think of TWO terrorist groups meeting up and training together in South Florida, right out in the open, with no one to inhibit them.

It's against U.S. law for private citizens, groups, etc. to conduct acts of agression on other countries from U.S. soil, even though it's been going on for over 40 years against Cuba.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:22 PM
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8. FBI Downplays Role of the Terrorist Group "Comandos F-4"
<clips>

In Miami-Dade County, South Florida, Comandos F-4 is of the last Cuban exile paramilitary groups in the US, training for a possible armed invasion of Cuba.

Its leader, Rodolfo Fr�meta, remains committed to the idea that violence is the only way to bring change in Cuba and recently declared that Comandos F-4 operatives had tried to assassinate a Cuban agent in Havana. The President of the Cuban Parliament has questioned whether the FBI had called Fr�meta "so he could explain how it is possible that someone publicly acknowledges the organization of an assassination carried out in another country?"

In this article that appeared in the South Florida Sun Sentinel on April 6th, 2003, the FBI says that it has determined that Fr�meta's claim could not be proved and that such terrorist groups as Comandos F-4 are not a priority for the agency, which is currently focused on terrorism against the US.

This attitide by the FBI downplays the danger of such groups to Cuba and might even be interpreted as giving them carte blanche to pursure their agendas. The Cuban authorities have heavily criticized this, complaining that US authorities have long turned a blind eye to the paramilitary groups behind violence to Cuba.

Max Castro, a senior research associate at the University of Miami's North-South Center, says that it is very unsettling to see that there is not much reaction to Frometa's claim of terrorism - no condemnation or outrage.

<http://www.antiterroristas.cu/index.php?tpl=noticia/anew¬iciaid=862¬iciafecha=2003-04-08>


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:26 PM
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10. Interesting this little tyrant is allowed so much latitude
even to the point of publically bragging his group got into Cuba and nearly killed a spy Cuba sent to try to protect Cuba FROM people of his ilk.

The article shows articles at the bottom, one being the Wall Street Journal article on them:

The Wall Street Journal

Comandos F-4, en Tampa.

January 29th, 2003


The Wall Street Journal showing how rightist Cuban exiles are now working closely with their Venezuelan counterparts in Miami. In other words, "turds of a feather".


By Jose de Cordoba
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

MIAMI -- As if beleaguered Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez didn't have enough problems already, now the F-4 Commandos are on his case.

With headquarters in a shabby second floor walk-up in the down-at-the-heels neighborhood of Little Havana, the Commandos are one of a raft of tiny, and largely toothless, Cuban-American groups dedicated to the overthrow of Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

Not long ago, the self-proclaimed leader of the F-4 Commandos, Comandante Rodolfo Frometa, 56 years old, signed a "civic-military" allegiance with dissident Venezuelan Capt. Luis Eduardo Garcia, leader of the Venezuelan Patriotic Junta. The two groups have vowed to join their combined military experience and exchange "intelligence and counterintelligence" to combat Cuba's Fidel Castro and Venezuela's Mr. Chavez, whom the groups brand as "traitors to the Latin American fatherland."

"Our goal is to see Venezuela and Cuba be free," says Mr. Frometa, a slight man who sports a black, Ho Chi Minh-style wispy beard and whose day job consists of chauffeuring elderly patients to a medical clinic. "We want Venezuela to
be free by peaceful means but in Cuba the only way is through an insurrection."

These days, it's deja vu all over again in Miami.

For years, as Cuban exiles conspired first with agents from the Central Intelligence Agency, and then without them to topple the Castro regime, Miami was America's Casablanca -- a capital of hothouse exile politics, outlandish claims, fiery but mostly empty rhetoric, and spy-versus-spy hijinks.
Then, during the turmoil that embroiled Central America in the 1980s Miami again became a sometimes-loony conspiracy central as the U.S. government funded Nicaraguan rebels in their fight to unseat Marxist Sandinistas. Die-hard anti-Castro Cuban exiles got in some licks in that fight, too, working hand in hand with Lt. Col. Oliver North and his crew to help thwart what they saw as Mr. Castro's Napoleonic ambitions in the region. (snip/...)
http://www.antiterroristas.cu/index.php?tpl=noticia/anew¬iciaid=706¬iciafecha=2003-02-01
Dangerous idiots.






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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:41 AM
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5. The US is harboring terrorists.
I guess we're going to have to add ourselves to the Axis of Evil.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:12 PM
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6. A kick for American terrorists
:kick:
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:31 PM
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9. Bush's Liasons --The scandalous release of Letelier's killers
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PRESS headlines called it one of the worst acts of state terrorism ever to take place in U.S. territory. They were referring to the horrific killing in broad daylight of Orlando Letelier, former ambassador and minister, and his assistant Ms. Ronni Moffit, a human rights activist, in the heart of Washington's diplomatic district.

It was September 21, 1976. A powerful incendiary device placed under the victims' car was detonated by remote control. The vehicle, a Chevelle 1975, exploded in the middle of Massachusetts Avenue, Embassy Row, one of the capital's most prestigious districts.

There was an extraordinarily lengthy and complex investigation.

The assassination had considerable political impact. In Chile, fascist general Augusto Pinochet was in power and political repression had reached unprecedented levels. The secret police - the sinister DINA - were systematically eliminating any opposition. In a murky conspiracy between the extreme right regimes of Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and Bolivia, in cahoots with the CIA and its Cuban-American mercenaries in Miami, a plan was hatched to exterminate leftwing activists. It was called Plan Condor, and with the CIA's blessing it extended beyond Latin American borders.

In Langley, George Bush - former CIA agent in Miami, son of a banker sanctioned for his financial links with Hitler's Germany and subsequently elected to the Senate - was running the company with extraordinary Machiavelianism.

http://www.freethefive.org/bushconnection.cfm#allard

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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:36 PM
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11. In the name of fighting terror, will Bush send these terrorists back
to Venezuela? NOT!!!!
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