Kucinich Starts New Impeachment Drive (against Bush on Jan. 28 {SOTU} )

Source: NY Times

Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio may get excluded from Democratic presidential debates, as he has been recently, but no one can deny him the floor in the House.

And today Mr. Kucinich took to the floor to fire off his latest salvo at the Bush administration: his plans to introduce Articles of Impeachment against President Bush on Jan. 28 — the day of Mr. Bush’s State of the Union speech.

Accusing the administration of lying about the need for the war in Iraq, Mr. Kucinich said he did not need to hear the president’s
assessment. “We know the State of the Union,” he declared. “It’s a lie.”

He also fired a volley at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California
who has maintained that impeaching Mr. Bush is not on the table for Congressional Democrats. “If impeachment is off the table,” Mr. Kucinich said, “truth is off the table. If truth is off the table
then this body is living a lie.”

Mr. Kucinich introduced Articles of Impeachment against Vice
President Dick Cheney last April and in November, with the surprise help of Republicans seeking to embarrass the Democrats, he nearly succeeded in securing an hour of debate on the House floor. House Democratic leaders blocked that, however, by referring the impeachment effort back to the Judiciary Committee.

Read more: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/kucinich-starts-new-impeachment-drive/

Bravo indeed! I couldn't agree more.

Folks interested in Kucinich should check out this new mini-documentary on YouTube about his exclusion from the debates....

Attention Democrat Voters: Democracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnP9gBNR0pk

All the best,

Nick

exactly!!!

If impeachment is off the table, truth is off the table, the rule of law is off the table, and the Constitution is off the table.

I so appreciate you for this.

You put them all to shame. Americans need to wake up to the fact that this man has the moxie to pull this country back together. Any day now!!!

I like this guy's style!

Go, Dennis!

It is a privileged resolution

anybody know if members can be heard by the chair during the SOTU session?

is it unprecedented?

Individual members of the House (or Senate) cannot be heard during a joint session called for the State of the Union address. Joint sessions in generalare called pursuant to concurrent resolutions of the Senate and House and the one for the SOTU provides that the purpose of the session is to receive "such communication as the President of the United States shall be pleased to make to them." A joint session is not the same as a session of either house and the rules applicable to a session of the House or of the Senate are not applicable.

members of the house can rise and be heard as Rep Tubbs Jones was after the 04 vote. That is also a joint session. What is the difference?

There are specfic rules governing the joint session under which electoral votes are counted. Under the rules, if both a member of the House and a member of the Senate raise an objection with regard to the counting of the votes, the joint session is suspended and the two houses meet separately to consider the objection. Tubbs' objection, joined by Senator Boxer, came in the form of a letter that was read during the joint session, at which time the joint session was suspended.

In 2000, you may recall, there was an attempt by various members of the House to object to the Florida vote, but those efforts to be heard were gavelled down because no member of the Senate joined in.

The rest just talk.
Dam I wish he was my President.:toast: :bounce: :hi: :loveya: :headbang: :yourock: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot:

“We know the State of the Union, it’s a lie.”

President Kucinich would clean some house!

IMPEACH '08

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLZuqbQcCJQ&eurl=http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/01/kucinich_causes_fuss_in_announ.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/01/kucinich_causes_fuss_in_announ.html

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=81920&provider=gnews



Rep. Kucinich creates commotion in House with call for impeaching President Bush




Created: 1/23/2008 2:54:10 PM
Updated:1/23/2008 3:03:30 PM

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich may get excluded from democratic presidential debates, but he?s voicing his opinion on the House floor.
On Wednesday, Kucinich announced he'll be filing articles of impeachment against President Bush on Monday.

That?s the same day of the president's state of the union address.

The announcement comes as Kucinich railed the President and Vice President for how they have handled the war in Iraq.

In his lengthy statement, the Ohio congressman said, "The President and Vice President lied and 4,000 of our soldiers died. The President and Vice President lied and a million innocent Iraqis died in a war that'll cost us two trillion dollars while people here in the states are losing their jobs, their health care, their homes, their dignity. Lies are weapons of mass destruction. Lies are also an impeachable offense. Monday, January 28th is the State of the Union. We already know the State of the Union, it's a lie."...


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What he is doing reminds me of what Congressman John Quincy Adams did in the House in the 1840s. He stood up for the Constitutional right of petition, and never backed down. At the time people called him "nuts", but now his stand is regarded as a courageous and necessary one.

and the only candidate my conscience will allow me to support. John Adams and John Quincy Adams are my ancestors. In supporting Dennis Kucinich, the greatest defender of our Constitution, I feel as though I'm honoring my country and my ancestors. Our Constitution is hanging by a thread, and we need a man of integrity, courage, and perseverance fighting the corporate takeover of our democracy. The people that are calling Kucinich "nuts" will rue the day they didn't support this great man of uncompromising integrity.

John Adams and John Quincy Adams are also in my family tree, though not as direct ancestors (their father is an uncle to me). Kucinich is, by far, the most honorable and thoughtful of all the candidates running, imho.

My line comes from John Alden. My daughter just finished a school report on her ancestors and chose John Alden. I told her John Adams and John Quincy Adams were also our ancestors through Ruth Alden, but she was bummed after seeing Marilyn Monroe was also an Alden descendant, but from a different daughter than our line. She was looking for a way to spin it so she could do a report on Marilyn Monroe as our direct ancestor. A movie star is much more glamorous to a teenage girl I guess.

You're right, Kucinich is by far the most honorable and thoughtful candidate. Great minds must run in our DNA cuz.:toast:

I'm the French Connection. My ancestor a Huegonaut, came here as secretary to Lord Edward Hyde, NY Gov. who tried to frame him by embezzling funds and blaming my ancestor. His integrity however was widely known and he was absolved, Hyde, Lord of Cornwall, was recalled to England by his cousin Queene Ann, for his misbehavior. He( Hyde , not my ancestor,)ALSO liked to dress in women's clothes; hello Rudi! IS it the water in NY City?
I feel as if family members have been pitted against these "greedy ones," for 3 centuries.
Can't we all just rebell & get Kucinich elected with write-in votes?

I heard that somewhere. I'd like to think it is the truth.

Let's see. It it is true, then the truth truly will set us free.

If it is false, then the truth won't set us free.

Guess we'll have to wait and test it to see which way it goes.

But, anyway, thanks to Kucinich.

n/t

A new sig line is born.

UCMJ for the Commander in Chief? Tribunal and long stay in Guantanamo?

Please donate to his campaigns people.
The party is targeting him in his Congressional election.
They are running a corporatist against him.

IMPEACH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have a REAL candidate who is willing to speak, AND act for WE THE PEOPLE.

He has my vote by light years!

I will vote for him, and him only. There is no other candidate that deserves a vote.

This man deserves a chance to speak.

k&r! :hi:

I love Kucinich. What a great new development.

bunch of scumbags playing BS politics while soldiers die every fucking day, and the fascist freaks bankrupt Americans.

Put enough sunlight on Bush and his cronies and they'll burst into flames.

They can't stand having their crimes out in the open.

Thrilled that he continues to fight the good fight to restore our country to what it should be. Sad because they have marginalized him virtually out of the race, and we desperately need him to lead this country.
Thank you Dennis Kucinich!
:bounce:

:woohoo: :applause:

Go DK!

What lies will come!? What tainted twists of logic and language could possible allow any president to state at this date "The state of the Union is Sound (or good or even ehh not so bad)

I can't wait.

The liar of the century. The man who speaks with the barest grasp of our native tongue, who has been responsible for bring into reality the nightmare of Orwellian double speak, must now explain the economic disaster he and his policies have brought about.

Oh, don't get me wrong. It's not that I am waiting for redemption. Hoping and believing that he will finally have to face the truth of his lies and the reality of the day and the year. It is not that I even dream that he may have some words of comfort or GOD FORBID wisdom that might help at this time.

Nor do I believe that there will be a collective AHA we GOT YA! moment and the world and the country will finally see the liar that he is and the mess he has landed us in.

No. He will spin his usual web of fairy tails and those that want to believe will do so, and those who are ready to grow up, will.

The interesting part will be seeing him in his farewell state of the union and to see how he will be received. The totally lame, totally unwanted, dare I say rabid duck that he is.

And if he is well received, by these standards, then why? What is going on? Is Prozac being dumped into the fancy water pitchers there on capital hill? Or have they just all gone crazy?

they would tell him to cool it.:banghead:

:sarcasm: (just in case I need to spell it out).

As usual, taking on tasks that most in Congress won't touch, even though it's their job.

!!

and is being targeted by corporate powers against him serving in Congress. Regardless of who you support during this election, Dennis Kucinich is a courageous defender of our Constitution, and we need to ensure he's re-elected in Cleveland to serve as a voice for our dying democracy.

Please help fight the corrupt corporate powers that want to silence Dennis Kucinich.

http://kucinich.us/contribute.html

he has my caucus vote

Kucinich does his homework, thinks things through, & most of all has integrity!

I can't say that about the others running for Prez. My wish is that whoever IS elected will make HIM Speaker of the House.

He has already been forced out of the Prez race by exclusion--both time-wise in the debates they actually allowed him to attend & by the MSM painting him: an elf, UFO crazy, Ole' codger w/hot wife half his age, & all-round radical.

I doubt HRC would support him as Speaker, not sure about Obama & Edwards.

But I do love him!!! I love him w/my $ & my vote!:loveya:

Dennis Kucinich speaks for ME!

:sarcasm:

He's the only one who wants to hold the criminals in charge accountable.

Mr Kucinich, when you're at it, don't just focus on Iraq. Don't forget the firing of US attorneys because they were not "loyal Bushies"; don't forget the treasonous act of outing covert CIA operative Valerie Plame; don't forget pardoning Scooter Libby; don't forget illegally spying on US citizens, etc.

he has to get the nomination or be elected. He's the definition of "hero".

He's the only one really listening to us in the House.

:bounce:

impeachment during one of the debates:

Only Dennis supported it. Only Dennis!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Vote you conscience, choose peace!

I'm happy to give you a 60th rec!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

:patriot:

FOR ALL THOSE YEARS EVERY YOUNG MALE COLLEGE STUDENT DREAMS OF HAVING SEX WITH A COLLEGE CHEERLEADER

AND GOD HEARS THOSE PRAYERS

SO FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS HE HAS BEEN GRANTING ALL OF THOSE PRAYERS.....
----------COME ON AMERICA, GRAB YOUR ANKLES ITS TIME FOR SEX WITH GEORGE W. 'THE CHEERLEADER' BUSH

to quote the movie Evolution...
1. I'll get the lubricant. 2. There's no time for lubricant. 3. There's always time for lubricant.

what goes down faster than dubya's economy? clue (J&B)

The hounds are back.
:kick:

I'm glad, but not surprised, to see him walking his talk.

Again.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

happy to recommend this thread. 67th to be exact.

Dennis deserves to be elected President .. where is the justice?

I was just asking my hubs tonight why people are not swarming the street in protest of these criminals. I just asked someone today who has to blow this guy to get impeachment proceedings started? Impeachment, is long, long, overdue.

Dennis Kucinich may not become president, but he is a still a hero!

Nothing could be better for our country!

thats says it right there

he took a shot at Pelosi. Shes running cover for the criminals and should be cuffed and frog marched out of the white house with the rest of the scum. Right now Im more pissed at her than I am Bush...she can stop him and refuses.

Way to go Dennis...you are the only one with any conscience, any compassion and clearly any brains in the whole corrupt body we call congress.

I too, believe that EVERYONE in the COUNTRY knows these guys are lyin SOB's...

So what's with the forced retraction? and why did the (repug) senator call it a personal atack?

I am still new to this, but I want to understand how Kucinich was violating House rules?

Does he still get to file his articles of Impeachment? and if they "poo-poo" him off the House floor...well then isn't this entire government just a travesty? And how scary that truly IS...when I tell my teenager that these people are the ones who run our lives... that freedom is only an illusion.

I want SOOO much to believe in something like the government I was taught about in school and that the critical thinking I learned about in college is at work in our Government (and ALL OF US)...and then I see that those with a real voice are silenced by those who would bully us all into abject poverty and enslave us to our TV's...

hmmmm...consumerism has become the opiate of the masses, eh?

edited for spellin.g oops

Been in the rules a long time. Can't call other members liars. Can't call candidates for pres/vp liars.

I understand, so it's okay for trillions of dollars, lives and America's standing in the world is Lost... but a Senator can't call a spade a spade? Which sucks, because really the elected ones are those who really make things "happen" in that crazy place called Washington.

Does anyone here think the Articles of Impeachment will stick?
And even IF he is impeached, (which honestly, we don't have the money for that kind of trial...) what can we do to him? just remove him from office as he is about to leave (how bout a swift kick to hurry him along? lol)

Can we actually have him pay reparations to the American people for screwing us so bad? how about Cheney and Haliburton? I'd like their "retirement" to be what funds our "rebate"!!!

It's a silly rule. However, I think they should just just start calling a bush a pervert and see how that one goes over.

...who makes a public statement on television that he is being well treated by his captors, while managing a little twitch of the eye for the camera.

Dennis knows what the rules say, but if there's anything we desperately need in this country right now it's someone who breaks "the rules" in favor of truth and justice. Especially "the rules" that have come into play as the result of signing statements.

When a judge strikes something from the record in a courtroom, the jury has heard the "offending" words, and no human can strike a comment from memory. Yes, they're instructed to ignore certain passages, but the horse is out of the barn already.

Rave on, McKucinich!

San Fran liberal MY FUCKING ASS!!!!

On my political likabilty scale, Dennis is treading into Paul Wellstone territory!

...when he's flying in small (or big) planes.

Way to go Dennis.

Remember what happened to the last one?

This man is the candidate who speaks for me, yet he has to fight to get national coverage, despite all he has done and continues to do! Yet they still are including Giulani, who appears to be down for the count, is even tanking in Florida, where he's spent all his time and effort... I agree with DK that the MSM is choosing our candidates for us...:grr:

were like him persistent to point of pushing these thugs out. Apparently these thugs have free rein and feel as though they are above the law, these are enemies of the state. They should be arrested.

...and I LOVE IT!!!!

Good one!

Too bad I have to live in America...

And Dennis comes out swinging. He's looking focused and refreshed, he's on the offensive, opening with a jab, a jab, a hook, and here comes the uppercut!

Show Pelosi, Bush, and the rest of the establishment scum how REAL representatives are supposed to act.

We need Democrats on the Hill with the same amount of courage that Dennis Kucinich has.

I may cast my vote for him in the Texas primary for this one issue alone. Those of you who know what a big Second Amendment supporter I am also know what it takes for someone like Kucinich to make me cosider voting for him.

but nothing will come of it as always. Besides, he's a freakin' lame duck anyway. Who cares?

...hearts?

...lobbyist-funded valves?

...black seeping pits of compromise?

...courage-proof GOP-lite inflatable whoopie cushion souls?

Connections?
Political careers?
Or ?

A voice for truth in the political wilderness! And on SOTU address day? Sorry Colbert - Dennis's balls are even bigger!

Dennis' resolution... Our candidates need to be out front and be honest with America like Dennis is. Stop all this infighting between OBama and Hillary and get together and Impeach ... If for no other reason it is simply to show that America cannot be run by liars, thiefs and thugs.

Why can't I have a rep like him in Georgia. Wait...I just answered my own question...I'm in Georgia.

...nnis!

Great to see him directing his energy towards the GOP rather than dissing the other dem nominees..

Wear earmuffs, BLINDERS, and gags in their mouths at this State of the DIS - Union Speech.

They may as well. All this criminal sees is stuffed shirts and they might as well be them for all they do against this tyrant.

It's great, and cathartic, to see Bush and Co. called out so publicly-- but I have to wonder about its utility. The Democratic Party's strategy, right or wrong, seems to be to stay somewhat positive, to stay true to their pre-victory pledge to "get things done" by ceasing "partisan wrangling". Obviously the Fox News gang misses no opportunity to accuse Democrats of failing to live up to their rhetoric. This places most Congressional Democrats in an uneasy position when motions such as this one are introduced. The fact that Bush, Cheney, et. al. are quite obviously guilty of the most egregious "high crimes and misdemeanors" does not really overcome the other fact that at this point in time it is a strategic impossibility to move impeachment proceedings culminating in a Senate conviction all the way through both houses of Congress. The best we can angle for is to re-take the White House and significantly increase our majorities in Congress, so that full and unimpeded investigations can take place under the new Administration, finally culminating, we can hope, in the censure of the no-longer-sitting President and the passage of laws to prevent future Administrations from repeating his behavior. Forcing Democratic Representatives to take positions now on this issue seems potentially damaging to that effort in two respects:
1) It undermines the narrative of a co-operative bipartisan legislation period from 2006-2008, which the DCC is pursuing toward gains in the 2008 elections-- potentially limiting those gains, which are crucial.
2) It diminishes the traction that future Democratic arguments can have during those investigations-- key leaders will have already established a record of not supporting impeachment, and the notion thereof will seem to have already been discredited to much of the electorate.
Basically, I love what Kucinich has done, except I wish he hadn't done it.

Red, Blue, Purple, what ever color they paint you,
aren't we all Democrats?

Aren't we all tired of the NeoCons getting away with their crimes?

Aren't we all tired of our government officials doing nothing about it?
What would you do if they did?

Congressman Dennis Kucinich has the balls to stand up
and be heard, do you? Let's get behind his courage, NOW!!!

It's time to hold them accountable. You DO make a difference.
Over 200,000 American citizens have supported Congressman
Wexler and others who are trying to act. But they are being blocked
by the committee chairman and cannot proceed without more
pressure from us.

I hope all of you who have been so vocal about this administration
will help us get these hearings moving. Without our support, our
Congress can do nothing.

Take two minutes and sign this petition that has been started to
pressure Congressman Nadle, who, along with Nancy Pelosi,
are the reason that nothing is moving forward.
If you want change, don't expect others to provide it for you.
You must get involved, and it needs to happen NOW!

Please sign the petition and repost this information.
Before it's too late, and that will be tomorrow.
Get with it, people. The apathy and complaining is pathetic.
Time to step out of your comfort zone before it no longer exists.

Go Here:http://asknadler2impeach.org/ Resume Impeachment Proceedings Now


Stop the GOP from blocking Cheney impeachment hearings trying to move forward in Congress.

You do have a voice, use it.


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