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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:54 PM
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Al Gore Endorses Gay Marriage
Source: Al Gore's Web Sight as Carried by Rawstory

"I think that gay men and women ought to have the same rights as heterosexual men and women, to make contracts, to have hospital visiting rights, to join together in marriage," Gore said. "And I don’t understand why it is considered by some people to be a threat to heterosexual marriage to allow it by gays and lesbians. Shouldn’t we be promoting that kind of faithfulness and loyalty to one’s partner regardless of sexual orientation?

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Gore_endorses_gay_marriage__0123.html



God Bless Al Gore. Finally, a politician who says the truth, speaks the truth and has the political courage to say what is in his heart.

Thank you Mr. Gore. Thank you for your courage, your conviction and your advocacy for those whose voice is drowned by bigotry and hatred.

Truth is on our side.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:58 PM
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1. I second the motion. Kudos to Mr. Gore, a real class act
in every possible way. And thanks to you, fightthegoodfightnow, for posting the good news!
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:00 PM
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2. Nice.
Also, it's not that the zealots feel threatened but believe that it's "wrong" and feel they can dictate that unto others.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:11 PM
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3. Why, oh why
wouldn't he run for President?
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:26 PM
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6. Agree Completely
Talk about a catch 22. We've finally found an honest politician and he's not running.


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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:24 AM
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17. Honest politician. What an oxymoron. nt.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:38 PM
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9. my guess
is that he believes that the MSM would relentlessly smear him all over again. The "liberal" NYTimes was among the worst offenders; so was the Washington Post. Given the endless stream of lies about him during the whole 2000 campaign, it is truly amazing that he beat Bush.
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muyojoe Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:27 AM
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36. I WAS GOING TO SAY
That this proves he won't be in the race in any capacity. Don't get me wrong, I think he is on the right side of this issue, but it is easily attackable by right wing nutters.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:26 AM
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44. Because then he wouldn't feel free to speak his mind. n/t
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:32 AM
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46. we're not good enough for him - see how nice a time the rest of the
candidates are having.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:24 AM
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47. Was supposed to be Prez in 2000.
When Bush stole the election then Gore could not run as it was probably a agreement that he would not run against HRC in 2008.

If anything Bush was a wild card. The DNC crowd underestimated the evil of the GOP when they planned the Presidency for 2000-2016....
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:01 PM
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52. Maybe if the convention is deadlocked...
I can dream.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:17 PM
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4. Thank you Al for being the voice of reason again. n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:23 PM
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5. Good going Tweedle dum!
;) I do love Al Gore. And, I do have a a passionate dislike for those "progressives" who told "us" he = GWB.
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:29 PM
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7. Well........ He's Not Perfect
........... (Exhibit A: Joe Lieberman) but he admits his mistakes (and has come out and said on hindsight what he would have done differently), but he has integrity, ethics and is honest. And I thank him for his civic responsibility and raising important issues that facilitate change.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:04 AM
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11. No one
is. And, Lieberman was a different Senator in 00. ;)
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:05 AM
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12. True........
........ but aren't we all.

Certainly not as naive!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:10 AM
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13. I wish I had been as naive as some in 2000.
The Gore loss might not have been as devastating at the time were that the case?

Unfortunately, many appear not to have learned much in recent years as they STILL equate Democrats with Republicans. :( I don't get it, personally.
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:14 AM
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14. Well........
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 12:24 AM by fightthegoodfightnow
......... that's where I disagree.

It appears that despite decades of my support for progressive and liberal politics, we are going to end up with a Republican and a Democrat who BOTH voted to fund this war despite the fact that 70% of the country wants out now.

So.... yea... there are some differences, but it's like separating the nuances which is irrelevant when separating the differences should be self apparent.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM
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27. Oh no, it's not nuanced to consider the fact that Democrats want to end the war, and
Republicans like McCain talk about a one hundred year presence. Trust those who were right in 2000. The differences MAKE A DIFFERENCE...
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:38 AM
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28. End the War?
Their votes suggest otherwise and their words carry the value of a post on a DU message board.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:48 AM
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30. Their votes?
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 12:54 AM by mzmolly
Obama didn't vote for the war, the others were lied to.

Why was Gore less than perfect again? Perhaps you can remind me?

Go ahead and "punish the Democrats/globe/growing numbers of children in poverty" etc... in 08 if that's what floats your boat. And, when the Republicans win (continuing their destructive agenda) because of those so called progressives who demand perfection - again ... I'll be sure to say I told you so.
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:09 PM
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53. Oh What a Cr*ck
Let me guess........ you're chairperson of the Democratic Business Council. LOL.

Obama didn't vote for the war? LOL.......... no, he did worse......... he voted to EXTEND it !!!!

You write: 'Go ahead and "punish the Democrats/globe/growing numbers of children in poverty" etc... "

HUH? Where the heck did you come up with that one........ punish the Democrats? Yawn..... for what again?

You write: 'Why was Gore less than perfect again? Perhaps you can remind me?'

I would love for Gore to run and run as the man he is today.


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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:58 AM
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33. He's moved away from Bush quite a bit
Not that he was ever really close--I just think he allowed himself to be "handled" way too much in 2000. He used to be against single payer health insurance too, and now he's a big advocate. It bugs me that he has to stop being a politician in order to do this stuff.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:24 AM
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35. I've changed my mind on some things political as well.
I do agree that it's a shame our politicians are forced to strategize vs. simply be human however.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:31 PM
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8. thank you , Al
it's something I've wished for a close friend and his partner. Hearing this means a lot ....
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:47 PM
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10. Probably as Much as Your ........
.............friendship.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:16 AM
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15. I hope Gore runs in 2012 against President McCain
I don't expect Hillary to win the November elections.
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:24 AM
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18. The Mayans say we won't be around after that. NT.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:30 AM
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24. Should have impeached Bush I guess...before it was too late.
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:27 AM
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21. Oh.......... Please Say No
President McCain...... not in a 100 years.... oh... whoops ....... I'm thinking that when we get out of Iraq.

No......... McCain has his moment and it passed.

I hope we are running against McCain.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:29 AM
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22. Stop the bullshit. No republican will win the WH. After Bush?? No way.
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jkurri Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:57 AM
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32. I remember everyone
saying that in 2004 too. Don't fool yourselves in thinking how much hatred will motivate the republicans. They may not be thrilled with their choices now but once the wrong candidate is nominated(by the dems) they will come out... I hope I am wrong, but I called '04 and everyone I know said I was crazy.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:34 AM
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26. I don't expect her to win, either.
Hard for her to win, when it'll be an Obama/Webb Democratic ticket. ;)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:50 AM
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31. Will you vote for him this time if he does ?
:P
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:20 PM
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54. No doubt about it!
Gore should be running now!
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:18 AM
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16. He's such a good man. If this is how he feels, he's sort of changed, hasn't he?
I mean, I'm not sure he was always so supportive. ??

Anyway, I so wish he had run, but he's doing pretty good just as he is. :)
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:34 AM
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25. Yes He Has
...... and that makes him more credible, although personally, I don't think he has changed his position on GLBT issues as much as he is speaking honestly about them for the first time without the political constraints.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:25 AM
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19. HEAR HEAR...
Wouldn't it be something to have the convention be a brokered variety, and they decide on GORE!? That would be something. I know it's dreamland, but it's a nice dream.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:27 AM
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20. now that's MY President.
:applause:
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:39 AM
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29. Mine, too. I hear ya.
By the will of the people he would and should be the POTUS. SO, until Gore enters the race, I'm still going for Edwards.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:29 AM
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23. Music to my soul.
What could have been...
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:59 AM
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34. Thank you President Gore! Wonder what Pandering Obama has to say now!!!
probably "present"...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:37 AM
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37. Moving towards the light . . . !!!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:44 AM
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38. Kudos, Mr. Gore. And...thanks.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:17 AM
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39. You, Mr. Gore, are awesome.
We gays don't understand either why we don't have the right.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:17 AM
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40. oh god--and he wouldn't run again? "why oh why oh why oh why?"
(as my daughter used to say)
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:26 AM
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43. He won't run again because
then he wouldn't feel as free as he does now to speak out, on anything.
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fightthegoodfightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:38 AM
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56. BUT ISN'T IT ......... *WONDERFUL*
All and all, it only makes him more popular.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:42 AM
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57. It is great to see him unbound and ungagged. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:20 AM
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41. another link/article for this


Al Gore Voices Support For Gay Marriage
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: January 23, 2008 - 5:00 pm ET

(New York City) Former Vice President Al Gore has come out in favor of same-sex marriage.

"I don’t understand why it is considered by some people to be a threat to heterosexual marriage to allow it by gays and lesbians," Gore said in a posting on his person blog in the Current.com website.

"Shouldn’t we be promoting the kind of faithfulness and loyalty to one’s partner regardless of sexual orientation?"

Current is the news network founded by Gore.

"he loyalty and love that two people feel for one another when they fall in love ought to be celebrated and encouraged and shouldn’t be prevented by any form of discrimination in the law," Gore said in the video posting.

In 2000 when he ran for president Gore said he supported civil unions or contracts but not marriage.

His turnaround was hailed by gay Democrats.

"We applaud Vice President Gore for firmly stating his support for allowing same-sex couples the freedom to marry. It is a position which some would still call courageous, but which a new generation of Americans would call common sense," said Jon Hoadley, Executive Director of National Stonewall Democrats.

"Vice President Gore has demonstrated leadership on this subject, and we encourage all Democratic leaders who restrain their consciences out of political expediency to demonstrate their leadership as well."

None of the frontrunners seeking the Democratic nomination for president supports same-sex marriage.

"Clearly, the environment is not the only thing that Al Gore is right about," said Sean Kosofsky a spokesperson for Triangle Foundation, Michigan's largest LGBT rights group.

In New Jersey, where gays are pressing the legislature for same-sex marriage, Garden State Equality said Gore's remarks made him the highest-ranking public figure in the United States to endorse marriage equality for same-sex couples.

New Jersey allows civil unions but Garden State Equality says it has received complaints from 512 couples since the law took effect on February 19, 2007 that employers are not respecting their civil unions because civil unions are not marriage.

Nearly 100 civil-unioned couples and other witnesses recently testified about the failure of the civil union law over eight hours of hearings of the New Jersey Civil Union Review Commission, which will release its first interim report on Tuesday, February 19, 2008, the one-year anniversary of the law.

"Al Gore gets it in a way that the others don't," said Steven Goldstein, chair of Garden State Equality.

"In the real world, civil unions don't give same-sex couples the rights and benefits of marriage, because employers view civil unions as inferior. In New Jersey, the failure of employers to recognize civil unions like marriage has resulted in a failure rate of our civil union law of at least 1 in every 5."

Legislation to allow gays and lesbians to marry in Maryland will be introduced on Friday.

The issue of same-sex marriage will be argued in the California Supreme Court later this year, and in Vermont, the first state to allow civil unions, a committee set up by lawmakers will deliver its report on whether to convert civil unions to marriage sometime this spring.

Massachusetts is the only state where same-sex marriage is legal.

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon08/01/012308gore.htm


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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:24 AM
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42. damn--i forgot to k&r. well, i just did. n/t
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:41 AM
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45. Is this a slam on Bill Clinton?
"Shouldn't we be promoting that kind of faithfulness and loyalty to one’s partner regardless of sexual orientation?"

:P

I love you Al. I wish you had run. A Gore / Obama was my dream ticket.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:37 PM
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48. k&r
Good for you, President Gore!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:44 PM
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49. That giant bag of Douche Lionel was ridiculing President-Elect Gore for this today.
I fucking hate Lionel.

He was playing Gore's speech, while he made snoring noises.

Fuck you, Lionel.

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:57 PM
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51. I don't know who Lionel is, but if he's like many heterosexuals, he'll yawn about this, but spend
countless hours jumping through hoops to take advantage of tax breaks for married people, yadda, yadda. Drama queen. That's all he sounds like, this Lionel.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:46 PM
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50. However, he only endorses compact fluorescent gay marriages. n/t
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:51 PM
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55. this is why its good not to be a candidate...YOU CAN LEAD
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:45 AM
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58. What won't he run?
You won once, Al. You'd clean up this time.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:18 AM
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59. It really is that simple
Astounding that so many can't see it!
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