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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:48 AM
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Senators Consider Drug Testing Candidates in South Carolina
Source: Fox News

COLUMBIA, S.C. — People filing for public office would also have to submit to drug testing if legislators concerned about the fallout of former state Treasurer Thomas Ravenel's admission of cocaine use of have their way.

Senate Republican Leader Harvey Peeler filed his bill a day after news broke that Ravenel had been indicted on a federal cocaine conspiracy charge. The June indictment came just six months after the Republican Charleston real estate developer took office. He has since pleaded guilty and is awaiting sentencing.

"The reason I introduced this bill was in response to my constituents' outcry over our state treasurer and his situation," said Peeler, R-Gaffney, who took a drug test himself to get a commercial drivers' license. "It just makes sense to me that elected officials must first pass the drug test."

"What's good for one man should be good for the next man," Freddie William, 60, said as he sold art on a Columbia street corner. "If it's required for me to take a drug test, why shouldn't a man in a public office?"



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328380,00.html
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:53 AM
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1. If others have to do it?
I think that all who run for public office should be required to submit to drug testing prior to filing, but not only at the local or state level, it should also be done to those running for federal office and should be done at least every 6 months.

The drug testing should be administered by the health departments, and not by private physicians.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:07 PM
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9. Publish the results first.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 01:13 PM by Heywoodj
Let them learn the results of their tests in the newspaper. Not only those running for office, but test anyone who wants to be nominated for an appointed office. All the Supreme Court judges, ambassadors, cabinet members, etc.

We'll see how which law comes down first: mandatory drug testing or drug criminalization.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:58 PM
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15. I have to Disagree
When a federal worker comes up positive it isn't advertised, so unless you want to do this to ALL FEDERAL employees to include the members of the US military, it just wouldn't be right.

Besides, if they come up positive they don't get to run for office at the time, and that alone will make people wonder.

Now, if during the next election cycle they show up negative, then they can run for office.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:46 PM
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16. Not the individual bureaucrats.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:46 PM by Heywoodj
For federal bureaucracy, I'm talking about naming the people who have to be nominated and confirmed - the heads of departments, the high-level names that are usually patronage in some way.

If they're going to make a stink about this - e.g. appointing a Drug Czar or an AG to prosecute under drug laws - then everyone concerned should be tested like the citizens they target. It should be made available to the public which of the intended appointees are guilty of illegal behavior.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:55 AM
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2. I think we should start with the President first...
...wouldn't it be great to see what drugs he is on...
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:50 PM
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7. That's actually illegal. n/t
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:32 PM
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12. Don't forget Laura! eom
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:00 PM
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3. Oh, the Irony!
What will be next, aptitude, intelligence and maybe even personality tests?
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:05 PM
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4. Well, at least we'll find out what McCain is smoking.....
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:14 PM by Bright Eyes
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flasoapbox Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:17 PM
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5. I strongly disagree with this
Drug testing is--generally--an invasion of privacy, even if it's Repugs
we're talking about. The only people who should be required to get tested
are those whose occupations could place other people's lives in _immediate_
and clear danger (airline pilots, surgeons, firemen, and so on.)
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:53 PM
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8. I agree that's it's an unreasonable search of your person. n/t
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:51 PM
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17. I agree, so why do they make people get tested for dick jobs,
you know, low level, low paying jobs like retail? In my experience looking for a job, it seems that the shittier the job, the more likely drug testing is required. I don't get it.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:47 PM
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19. Me thinks it's the insurance companies really pushing this.
No facts to argue, but just a hunch.

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flasoapbox Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:11 PM
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21. That's just the corporations being assholes.
As usual.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:11 PM
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22. You can thank Ron & Nancy Reagan for that
not to mention the milquetoast Dems of the time, who refused to ever make privacy an issue, in any area.

Come to think of it, they still won't.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:08 PM
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18. And Presidents ....
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 06:09 PM by Drifter
Sorry, Bush has killed a hell of a lot more people than a stoned truck driver ever could.

Cheers
Drifter
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 PM
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6. I'd rather see a Background Check with results made public.
I cannot get a floral designer job without a bckground ck. When the taxpayers are paying the wages & benefits for any public servant job, the background check should be availible for us to view.
Preferrably before its been scrubbed clean, as in the case of GWBush & Laura.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:10 PM
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10. I am strongly opposed to mandatory drug tests
on principle and in practice. However, I feel that if they're going to be inflicted on the rest of the populace, then the least we can do is to subject those politicians who make the laws concerning drug testing submit to the same thing. Whatever they put anyone else through, they themselves should experience first.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:34 PM
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13. My point EXACTLY! The 4th. Amendment would make a BIG comeback!
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:31 PM
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11. Beautiful eom
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:44 PM
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14. Drug testing is so stupid. It proves nothing.
Test for impairment, not for metabolites!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:51 PM
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20. Present company included?
What better example to set than to make the rule retroactive and test themselves first?

:headbang:
rocknation
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:07 PM
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23. Oh, sure, now that Bush** isn't running.
Suuuure. Now they'd do it. :eyes:
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