Pentagon charges Sept. 11 suspects

Source: AP via Yahoo News



By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon has charged six detainees at Guantanamo Bay with murder and war crimes in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks, it was announced Monday. Officials said they'll seek the death penalty in what would be the first trials under the terrorism-era military tribunal system.
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"These charges allege a long term, highly sophisticated, organized plan by al-Qaida to attack the United States of America," Brig. Gen. Thomas W. Hartmann, the legal adviser to the tribunal system, told reporters. He added that the charges have been sworn "against six individuals alleged to be responsible for the planning and execution of the attacks" which occurred on Sept. 11, 2001 and killed nearly 3,000 people.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080211/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_sept_11_trial

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A military tribunal is going to try suspects that committed a crime in the jurisdiction of New York City and Washington DC. This is an outrage.

what a surprise!

04 - Bin Laden tape
06 - Saddam execution
08 - KSM trial..and execution?

Oilmen Running our US government for personal profit & their role in aiding 9-11.

What a FING joke.

They want to make sure they've got justification for both Gitmo and waterboarding. People will see this shit and say, "hell, I know we shouldn't torture prisoners, but they got results." It's abhorrent, but I can't see too many Americans protesting or complaining after this shit.

The one thing I'm going to be interested in is what McCain's going to say--he was a POW himself. If he agrees with this, you know for damned sure he sold his soul.

And it is somewhat diabolical--if you still protest, you must be aligned with the terrorists. If you don't protest, the truth is that you are condoning torture and the removal of rights of those prisoners at Gitmo. The "enemy" in our own country wins again--and how they will continue their reign of terror in the white house. They will keep this kind of shit up until we are lost forever as a country.

meet 70s pornstar Ron Jeremy, the Pentagon's new alleged 9/11 mastermind.

BS pseudo-military tribunals, secret evidence, etc.

...Before the election, leaving four possible outcomes...

Democratic newcomer allows execution=complicit in war crimes
Democratic newcomer commutes sentence=soft on terrorism
Republican newcomer allows execution=strong on terrorism
Republican newcomer commutes sentence=distance from Bush

Notice that outcomes 1 and 2 will hurt a Democrat while 3 and 4 will help the Republican,since if they can hold the White House and "Unitary" power they believe they can hold off war crimes charges for their lifetimes...

...after legally changing each one's name to Osama bin Laden.

Greetings,

In the CNN story about the trial was a line "The detainees will have lawyers, and they will be allowed to see at least some of the evidence against them."

I thought that was absurd enough to post to a local forum here so I copypasted and posted it. After 15min or so I re-read the story and the line was changed to "the detainees will have lawyers, and they will be allowed to see the evidence against them" - Kinda changed the tone of it.

Also using testimonies gained with torture shows the whole world what a moral and ethical superiority you have.

Now I havent read or posted here in ages because honestly, I gave up on you after you won the house and senate and nothing much happened about anything important.

I no longer think you have any hope for the better. Your political system consists of corporate party D and R that have somewhat different beneficiaries in which "the people" dont belong.

Nothing short of revolt will change anything and as long there are TV and food available, it wont happen.

Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States will seek the death penalty against six Guantanamo Bay detainees who are suspects in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, an Air Force general said Monday.

The government will submit criminal charges against the detainees, who include alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Brig Gen. Thomas Hartmann said during a Pentagon news conference. The government hopes to try the men together, he said.

All six have been charged with conspiracy, murder in violation of the law of war, attacking civilians, attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, destruction of property in violation of the law of war, terrorism and material support of terrorism, said the general who is serving as legal adviser to the military commissions trying the detainees. Four of the suspects will also be charged with hijacking, he said.

(snip)

"There will be no secret trials," Hartmann said. "We will make every effort to make everything open."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/11/911.charges/index.html

eh chimpy!

If they don't have an open trial, then they are making these men scapegoats/or martyrs--and al Qaeda has won, because we no longer are a nation of laws.

If they do have an open trial, won't the charge of torture come out? Won't it give them a chance to talk about the illegal treatment they've undergone at the hands of the US? Or are the prosecutors counting on them to simply talk in generalities about the "Great Satan"?

and they have suffered from oxygen deprivation due to being water boarded. I suspect the only thing we'll hear from them are mad rantings much along the lines of Zacarias Moussaoui, but probably less coherent.

Seems odd that they have waited until now to charge them. Watch the Republicans propagandize the trials to portray themselves as the protectors of the American people. Parading terrorists everywhere they can. Proclaiming Guantanamo a symbol of the war on terror. While ignoring the supporters of many of these same terrorists at the Bushes' dining room table.

They will turn the trials into a modern version of Nuremberg except the difference is they should be the ones on trial. The reality of 9/11 is that it was not so much an action as it was a reaction - a reaction to decades of the CIA and the Bushes intefering in the sovereignty of other nations.

All for the sole purpose of establishing a "world order" that seems instead to have turned into a "world disorder" which may yet plunge us all into World War III.

shrubya's ratings in the dumper as we head into an election year, and the economy headed down the shithole. Time to get the country worked into a xenophobic paranoid frenzy over 9/11 again.

These people have been in custody for years, have been subjected to torture, and now we're going to try them before a secret military tribunal? What kind of backwards shit is this? We all know damned well that * is not going to allow any possibility of these men being found not guilty. This is nothing more than a dog-and-pony show, election year posturing at its worst. It's this administrations way of saying "hey, look at us! Vote Republican, war on terra, war on terra, war on terra!"

According to the reports they can appeal the verdicts all the way to the Supreme Court. So if they are found guilty at least the appeals will be transparent to some degree.

and torturing them was OK. It appears the detainees are only persons when it is the desire of this admin.

:grr: :grr: :grr:

:hi:

The Bush administration announced yesterday that it intends to bring capital murder charges against half a dozen men allegedly linked to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, based partly on information the men disclosed to FBI and military questioners without the use of coercive interrogation tactics.

The admissions made by the men -- who were given food whenever they were hungry as well as Starbucks coffee at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba -- played a key role in the government's decision to proceed with the prosecutions, military and law enforcement officials said

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/11/AR2008021100572.html


Right, it was the Starbucks coffee that made them talk...:eyes: