Iran guards predict Israel demise

Source: BBC News

Iran's Revolutionary Guards leader has predicted the imminent destruction of Israel by fighters from the Lebanese movement Hezbollah.

"We will soon witness the destruction of the cancerous scum of Israel at the strong, capable hands of Hezbollah," Maj-Gen Mohammad Jafari wrote.

He was writing to the group's leader Hassan Nasrallah following the killing of senior commander Imad Mughniyeh.

Iran and Hezbollah blamed Israel for the death, something Israel has denied.



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7250894.stm

i feel like israel should just nuke iran and wipe them off the map- but then again i do not condone the killing of innocent civilians

...its just a feeling

despite the fact I regard Israel as being a complete nuisance

Would you not agree that both the USA and UK have been rather more than a 'complete nuisance' to Iraq?

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always getting in the way of the Lordly Anglo-Prussian types who want to carve out their 'utopian visions'.

:sarcasm: as if I needed it...

not others.

and others around here who are tired of thinly-veiled attacks. Go protest the Arab States' behaviors toward their own people including their women - Oh I forgot...it's all about the Jewish State, isn't it. It's never about the "Muslim State"?

always getting in the way of the Lordly Anglo-Prussian types who want to carve out their 'utopian visions'.

:sarcasm: as if I needed it...

I feel that if Israel didn't act like such a fascist, war-mongering, land-stealing, genocidal rogue state, they would have these problems.

Israel is merely defending its right to exist. The problem with partition was the matter of Jerusalem. Apart from that, the United Nations put forth the Partition Plan and intended Jerusalem to be a "shared" territory similar to Berlin after World War II. The Jews accepted it. The Palestinians did not. Neither had a country. They were ruled by the British at the time.

The Arab nations declared war. On not only the state of Isreal but the state of Palestine. Few people realize that. The Palestinians like the Jews were "wandering peoples" and really never had a country. Some just like to believe they did. The history of the region is quite complex.

The reality of the situation is not complex. Given the opportunity, the Arabs would exterminate the Jewish people. We went through that with Hitler. Or have you forgotten? Sorry that you have. Others have not.

The Jews did not steal the original land. Much of it in fact was bought from the Arab landlords in what was a British territory. Some of the more hateful rhetoric of the Arabs and their apologists has always centered on their belief that Jews could not have bought the land because Jews were not allowed to own land. Rhetoric. And propaganda.

It is the Palestinians, and the Arab countries, who simply have always demanded that all of Israel be turned over to the Palestinians. And no doubt it it were the Arab nations would probably declare war on the Palestinians as well.

Be careful in your hatred of Jews that you do not invite another Holocaust.

Or maybe it will. It seems to work on a regular basis.

But you're pretty blatant. I see no "hatred of Jews" by any posters on this thread. Can you point me do it?

Have you read the old testiment at all? :shrug:

regimes surrounding Israel who have always been calling for the extermination of Israel. SARCASM

Judaism and Christian extremists are just as bad, if not worse.

take the blinders off.

The Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition and Israel's treatment of the Palestinians are all the evidence required to prove that statement.

a thousand years ago. As far as the Palestinians are concerned - that's just a plain sad situation. The Israelis are certainly not blameless, but the Palestinians (not all) are bent on genocide of a nation and are in large part incapable of self government.

It's absurd. Islamic fundamentalist violence is a REAL and GROWING problem, and Islam has a FAR WORSE problem with extremist violence than any other major religion BY FAR. You are just going to have to leave your fantasy world for a minute and accept that. It's reality.

then you are the one living in a fantasy world, not me.

I never claimed that Christian violent extremists don't EXIST. They do. But those who take Christianity to violent lengths are VERY rare (abortion clinic bombers, maybe the occasional fundie gay basher.) I believe only around a dozen people have been killed in abortion clinic attacks EVER. There have been nearly 10,000 Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since 2001.

But nice try. You can't equate the two. It's like comparing Barry Bonds baseball career and my very brief (2 year) stint in little league. You'd say, "but they both play baseball!" Reasonable people wouldn't compare two. People with an agenda (you)...would.

Nice try though. What this really boils down to is that Christians vote for Booooooosh! Therefore, they MUST be as bad or worst (as you stated earlier) than Islamic extremists.

religious extremists of any stripe are generally violent, be they Islamic, Judaic, Christian or other. It may localized or it may be public, but the core of their belief is that all those who are not like them should be exterminated. That is a fundamental constant with religious extremism. I never said that Islamic extremists were not violent, only that the Jewish extremists (who in this case are armed by the US) are just as violent. That is NOT saying that all people of the Jewish or Islamic or Christian faith are violent, although there IS violent in all three, and in others as well.

Your quote: "Judaism and Christian extremists are just as bad, if not worse."

Bad/worse would imply similar numbers worldwide, similar casualties inflicted. Your argument fails on both counts. Islamic extremists are a significant problem in the ME, Europe Africa and Asia. I can't think of a single region of the world where Christian extremists are causing problems. And you are equating "jewish extremists" with the sovreign state and armed forces of Israel, which is absurd. Israel is about 20% muslim/arab, and they are represented in government proportionally. How can the entire nation be Jewish extremists? They are a sovreign country recognized by the UN, and their armed forces are not comparable to rogue religious fundamentalists carrying out terrorist attacks outside the direction of any state.

I wouldn't label the armed forces of Saudi Arabia/Iran religious extremists, (even though many likely are). There is a difference between the military forces of sovreign states and rogue religious extremists carrying out terrorist actions in the name of religion, instead of state self interest.

extremism is always thus, no matter if it's sanctioned by the state, or institutionalized or not.

I especially liked your implication that the Israel is really just a bunch of extremist jews, comparable to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. How progressive of you...

I'll thank you not to read things into my post simply because you don't agree.

12,000 dead since 1948 is not genocide.

http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/ranking-of-death-tolls-the-66-most-lethal-conflicts-after-1950/

The Palestinian population has grown 30 percent in the last decade alone.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3504621,00.html

All you do is cheapen the meaning of genocide and make it meaningless.

And add "America" to your sentence.

neighbors were so welcoming when Israel became a state. It must all be Israel's fault because they live in a neighborhood of puppies and kittens.

They should never have attacked all the separate Arab countries in 1948...and then in 1967...and again in 1973. Oh wait...

You said that 'if Israel didn't act like, etc.', 'they would have these problems'. I think you meant 'they *wouldn't* have these problems'. But you were right the first time! Israel had enemies in the Middle East, just for their existence, long before the Occupation.

Israel's actions are relevant to prospects for peace with the *Palestinians* (as are Palestinian actions). But the Iranian leadership IMO just would prefer if Israel didn't exist at all, and uses the Occupation as one of its excuses; if Israel ended the Occupation tomorrow, the Iranian government would still opppose its existence.

And no, I don't think Iran is about to get nukes; and no, I don't support any military action against Iran. There are lots of nasty leaders in this world, and that doesn't mean we should bomb all their countries!

And whatever you think of Israel's government and its actions, it's not genocidal. Genocide is what's happening in Darfur.

Just imagine if someone said "I feel like Iran should just nuke Israel and wipe them off the map" - would that be acceptable to mention?

from our debacle this summer. Best to be careful what you wish for with * and Shooter at the helm. Just saying. Peace, Kim

...to make their case seem more believable.


I hear this guy's out of work...

I don't want anyone nuking anyone!!!! Or anywhere 'wiped off the map'.

In any case, anyone in the Middle East who nukes their neighbours would probably destroy themselves by the nuclear fallout.

Ignorant Ahmadinejad asside, you are as shameful as he is.
What is the difference between killings wives and kids via air force bombs versus explosive belts?
Shame on you and you know it.
And taking people's land bacause someone came up with a three thousand year old quotation?
(I am atheist).

F*ck you.
Well sorry, I just got over myself but you guys should get out of your neighborhood some times.
You are the cause of all these wars, you good people.

or is English not your first language? What the fuck are you talking about here?

I don't understand your post at all.

please understand.... welcome to DU

How very holy and helpful.

:sarcasm: